Man accused of attacking Paul Pelosi held without bail

You haven’t been keeping up, which on this forum means you didn’t miss much, but posters as “vol” deny any crime was committed, until they see the actual video of a crime, they say it is all a left wing hoax

no.....you haven't been keeping up......San Francisco doesn't believe in bail......
 
Yes. They are on America soil. If they break a law, they have to face justice here

Does that include illegals that California lets out without bail who then flee back to Mexico or wherever? Everybody--me included--that has lived in Arizona a long time has a story about how some illegal did something from, a crime, to an auto accident, to whatever, and then instead of justice getting served they were able to flee the country.

Me? I was in a hit and run with a white Pontiac Firebird on Camelback Rd. here in Phoenix like about 20 years ago now. The Pontiac backed off and fled the scene. It was later traced to a stolen vehicle that wound up in Mexico... Imagine that. One kid had his Jeep stolen and it was found in Mexico. Friends same thing. Brother? Hit by a 15-year-old Mexican illegal in a stolen rental vehicle. At least Hertz paid up as they owned the vehicle.

If they can run over the border, they do it in a nanosecond. You get left holding the bad of wreckage they caused without relief. Justice my ass.

It's everywhere here. Illegals are a major crime problem. Deport them all!
 
They look at things like attachment to the community and financial resources to determine if they are likely to flee.

A violent illegal would be an unlikely candidate for "no bail". What fucking idiot would suggest such a thing?
 
It varies by state and the federal 8th Amendment excessive bail clause has never been applied to the states.

California, and many other deep blue areas have moved to "No cash bail" of late. That is, they are letting virtually every criminal out of jail on their own recognizance without bail, to even include repeat offenders.
 
A violent illegal would be an unlikely candidate for "no bail". What fucking idiot would suggest such a thing?

New York

New NY Law Eliminates Cash Bail For Many Violent Crimes, Sex Offenses
https://policetribune.com/new-ny-law-eliminates-cash-bail-for-many-violent-crimes-sex-offenses/

California

California Does Away With Cash Bail For Those Who Can't Afford It
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/29/9824...y-with-cash-bail-for-those-who-cant-afford-it

California county saw 70% of criminal suspects released on $0 bail commit new crimes: DA
https://www.foxnews.com/us/californ...suspects-released-0-bail-commit-new-crimes-da

Illinois

Illinois to Begin Releasing Alleged Murderers, Violent Offenders w/ Out Bail
https://headlineusa.com/illinois-to...sted and charged, the Counter Signal reported.

No More Cash Bail in Illinois? Here's What We Know About the Changes Coming Soon
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...e-know-about-the-changes-coming-soon/2939008/

Other blue states are moving towards this same thing, and with the same disastrous consequences.

The "fucking idiot(s)" that are doing this are DEMOCRATS!
 

I live in Texas. You live in Arizona. Why are you constantly seeking to disregard the 10th Amendment and impose authoritarian Federal rule?
 
A violent illegal would be an unlikely candidate for "no bail". What fucking idiot would suggest such a thing?

Violent criminals (defined by the crime they committed) often are not allowed bail. Those guys who assaulted police officers on January 6 are held without bail. The idiot who would suggest such a thing is the defendant's lawyer. Sometimes available space is a factor.
 
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