Marxism really

[Monad Portal]

This means the only way socialism can operate in a society is by force of government.

... and the winning pearl of wisdom in all this is that communism has no government to force anyone to do anything or to prevent anyone from doing anything, and truly requires all people to be altruistic 24/7. The first person to get a firearm and say "Fuck this!" becomes instant dictator, and his friends become the ruling oligarchy.

Thus, a socialist society must in turn become a dictatorship in one form or another that enforces work on individuals

This is the definition of the socialism stage of the "natural progression" towards communism. Society forms into a socialist oligarchy that centrally plans the restructuring of society, i.e. a complete dictatorship. The problem comes when said oligarchy is supposed to "step down", i.e. abdicate all power and join the rest of the people in the now government-free, police-free, military-free society; that never seems to happen. Those in power become paranoid and start killing all potential future opponents. Elections become rigged by default. The Utopia is never delivered.



sounds a lot like privatization........

 

[Walt]

Marxism is like Christianity. They sound like great ideas, someone should try them sometime.

 

[Nordberg]

... and the winning pearl of wisdom in all this is that communism has no government to force anyone to do anything or to prevent anyone from doing anything, and truly requires all people to be altruistic 24/7. The first person to get a firearm and say "Fuck this!" becomes instant dictator, and his friends become the ruling oligarchy.


This is the definition of the socialism stage of the "natural progression" towards communism. Society forms into a socialist oligarchy that centrally plans the restructuring of society, i.e. a complete dictatorship. The problem comes when said oligarchy is supposed to "step down", i.e. abdicate all power and join the rest of the people in the now government-free, police-free, military-free society; that never seems to happen. Those in power become paranoid and start killing all potential future opponents. Elections become rigged by default. The Utopia is never delivered.



sounds a lot like privatization........

Those definitions are theoretical. They do not exist in our real world. The countries the ignorant righties call socialist are those that have a better distribution of wealth. They provide healthcare,, free schooling, including college and safety nets for those who need them. They are capitalistic countries. They sell their production around the world, including America. Drive your Saab to Ikea or buy some Lego and ypou may understand what they are, industrialists.

 

[Monad Portal]

Those definitions are theoretical. They do not exist in our real world. The countries the ignorant righties call socialist are those that have a better distribution of wealth. They provide healthcare,, free schooling, including college and safety nets for those who need them. They are capitalistic countries. They sell their production around the world, including America. Drive your Saab to Ikea or buy some Lego and ypou may understand what they are, industrialists.

right.

everything's fascism. a blend of state and corporate power.

a bundle of sticks,
aka, a faggot.

 

[Monad Portal]

Those definitions are theoretical. They do not exist in our real world. The countries the ignorant righties call socialist are those that have a better distribution of wealth. They provide healthcare,, free schooling, including college and safety nets for those who need them. They are capitalistic countries. They sell their production around the world, including America. Drive your Saab to Ikea or buy some Lego and ypou may understand what they are, industrialists.

could you possibly suck more oligarch dick?