Moral relativism

Ok, because I have never seen an argument for morality not based on universals. Because that is my point about moral relativism, it is not universal.
If by "universal" you mean that intentionally doing something that causes physical and mental pain, yes. That's not about a god or opinion. That's based on the experience of conscious creatures. As I said, nobody would see it as immoral to perform FGM on a female statue or plastic female doll.
 
Yet it is true.
The honest scientific answer is that Darwinian evolution does not scientifically explain a moral duty outside your kin group, tribe, or pack

The honest scientific answer is we don't know where we get a sense of universal moral conscience

Alfred Russell Wallace, who was the co-discoverer of evolution by natural selection, did not believe scientific evolutionary theory could explain a universal moral conscience in humanity.
 
The honest scientific answer is that Darwinian evolution does not scientifically explain a moral duty outside your kin group, tribe, or pack

The honest scientific answer is we don't know where we get a sense of universal moral conscience

Alfred Russell Wallace, who was the co-discoverer of evolution by natural selection, did not believe scientific evolutionary theory could explain a universal moral conscience in humanity.
Nothing I said is related to science.
Nor dependent on science to support or refute.
Purely social theory.
 
Unless done as part of post partum depression in live birth abortions such as those from Lindsay Clancy.
All the public programs out there intended to help babies, children, mothers like SNAP, Medicaid, WIC, CHIP, AFDC were invented by liberals, usually over the opposition of conservatives
 
All the public programs out there intended to help babies, children, mothers like SNAP, Medicaid, WIC, CHIP, AFDC were invented by liberals, usually over the opposition of conservatives

Nice Red Herring.

But of course you ducked the point - you don't oppose
"Torturing babies or burning children alive" as long as it's done to promote abortion.
 
This is the post I quoted:

Because it isn't "opinion". It isn't an "opinion" that allowing random murder will inherently destabilize a social network.

No.

No.
So the discussion of murder doesn’t answer the question?

Why is it unclear?
 
 It isn't an "opinion" that allowing random murder will inherently destabilize a social network!
It absolutely is an opinion. Your subjective opinion.

Other primates living in social networks use violence occasionally or even frequently. It is to their benefit in a survival-of-the-fittest Darwinian landscape. Chimpanzees, gorillas, baboons will practice infanticide to eliminate the babies of rivals, or engage in troop warfare and killing to acquire the territory and resources of rival troops. They aren't thinking about the "destabilization of networks".

In a strictly physical materialist worldview there is no universal moral duty to refrain from killing, stealing, or self-interested conquest. The only thing that matters in a scientific Darwinian landscape is to protect and propagate the genetic information of you and your kin group.
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So the discussion of murder doesn’t answer the question?

Why is it unclear?
Ok. I'll go with murder.

So, if there are competing groups of people... tribes for example... and murdering members of Tribe A benefits Tribe B, it becomes moral right?
 
Ok. I'll go with murder.

So, if there are competing groups of people... tribes for example... and murdering members of Tribe A benefits Tribe B, it becomes moral right?
To tribe A it is.

Doesn't the US think every war it engages in is moral?
 
To tribe A it is.

Doesn't the US think every war it engages in is moral?
Right, a scenario can be created where ANY action, no matter how horrible, no matter how destructive and damaging, can be rationalized as moral.

So, morality doesn't exist in the world of moral relativism.
 
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