Navy weighs renaming carrier slated to honor Black war hero, potentially switching it to Trump

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signalmankenneth

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WTF! This draft dodging coward and convicted felon is the last person one want to name a navy ship after?!!​

No Trump has served in the military in over 8 generations?!!

The US Navy is working to rename an aircraft carrier under construction that was set to honor a Black sailor hailed for his heroic actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor, three sources familiar with internal discussions told CNN.

During President Donald Trump’s first term, the Navy announced that the Ford-class carrier would be called the USS Doris Miller, recognizing an enlisted sailor who helped defend US forces from Japan’s attack.

It’s unclear what the Navy is seeking to change the name of the carrier to, though two of the sources said there have been internal conversations about renaming it to honor Trump. It would be an unprecedented move to name an aircraft carrier after a sitting president.

The Navy is looking instead to rename another warship after Miller, according to one of the sources, and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for military valor. The final authorization for the award is up to Congress and approval from Trump.

Thomas Bledsoe, Miller’s great-nephew, said Miller’s family had not been informed of the change or the renewed effort to award his great-uncle with the Medal of Honor. The family has been working to get him the Medal of Honor “for years,” Bledsoe said, and called the Navy’s move to recommend the honor “very positive.”

The Navy directed questions from CNN to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. A Department of Defense spokesperson said they had nothing to announce at this time.

The effort to rename the USS Doris Miller has been underway since earlier this year, the sources said. Acting Secretary of the Navy Hung Cao and his office have also been looking into updating the official guidance for how ships should be named and specifying who they can be named after, including presidents, two of the sources said.

Amid conversations over the ship’s name, the Navy has effectively stopped referring to the ship as the USS Doris Miller internally and is only calling it by its hull number, CVN-81, one of the sources said. A recent White House executive order on shipbuilding also referred to the ship only as CVN-81, tasking the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy to report back with a plan to replace the ship’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system with steam and hydraulic systems.

The Navy is under a time crunch to finalize the name of the carrier as the ship’s keel-laying ceremony is expected at the end of this year. The ceremony is a public event marking an important step in a ship’s construction. The ship is not expected to be delivered until 2034, USNI News first reported, due to shipbuilder constraints.

Former Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly announced the new carrier’s name in honor of Miller in January 2020, during a Martin Luther King, Jr. Day ceremony in Pearl Harbor.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/20/politics/navy-weighs-renaming-carrier-black-war-hero-to-trump
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The OP’s framing is purely partisan outrage:


  • “WTF! This draft dodging coward and convicted felon is the last person one want to name a navy ship after?!!”
  • “No Trump has served in the military in over 8 generations?!!”

Two early replies:


  • One says Trump is a “textbook narcissist” with too many enablers.
  • Another suggests the real complaint may be that the name “Doris Miller” “sounds feminine.”

This is classic JPP partisan signaling. The poster is treating a still-unconfirmed internal discussion as a done deal and using it primarily as a vehicle for anti-Trump invective rather than examining the substance of the naming debate or Miller’s record.


The underlying CNN report (Aug 20, 2026)​


CNN cites three anonymous sources familiar with internal Navy discussions. Key points:


  • The Navy is working to rename the future Ford-class carrier CVN-81, previously announced as USS Doris Miller.
  • Two of the sources said there have been internal conversations about renaming it after Trump. Naming a carrier after a sitting president would be unprecedented.
  • The Navy is considering naming a different warship after Miller and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor (final decision requires Congress + presidential approval). Miller’s great-nephew called the Medal of Honor push “very positive,” though the family had not been informed of any name change.
  • Internally the ship is already being referred to only by hull number (CVN-81). A recent White House executive order on shipbuilding also used only the hull number.
  • Keel-laying is expected late 2026; delivery is currently projected for 2034.
  • Acting Navy Secretary Hung Cao’s office is reviewing/updating ship-naming guidance, including whether presidents can be namesakes.

No official decision has been announced. DoD said it had nothing to announce.


Background on Doris Miller and the original naming​


  • Doris “Dorie” Miller (1919–1943), a Mess Attendant from Waco, Texas, manned an anti-aircraft gun (despite no training on it) and helped wounded sailors during the Pearl Harbor attack on the USS West Virginia. He received the Navy Cross from Adm. Chester Nimitz—the first Black sailor to receive it.
  • He was later killed when the escort carrier USS Liscome Bay was torpedoed in 1943.
  • In January 2020 (during Trump’s first term), Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly announced CVN-81 would be named for Miller. It was the first aircraft carrier named for an African American and the first named for an enlisted sailor for actions taken while enlisted. Modly framed it as honoring enlisted service and American sailors broadly.
  • A previous ship (the Knox-class frigate USS Miller) had already been named for him.

Aircraft carriers have historically been named mostly after presidents, famous admirals, or historic battles/ships (Enterprise, Nimitz, etc.). Naming one after an enlisted sailor was a deliberate break with recent pattern.


Broader context in 2026​


This sits inside a larger set of Trump administration moves on naval issues:


  • Recent presidential directive to replace EMALS (electromagnetic aircraft launch system) and advanced weapons elevators on CVN-81 with steam catapults and hydraulic systems—reversing a long-running Ford-class design choice. Critics call it costly and disruptive mid-construction; supporters argue EMALS has been problematic.
  • Broader review of ship and base names associated with DEI priorities (examples include the earlier renaming of the USNS Harvey Milk).
  • A 2025 Navy renaming commission had looked at tighter criteria favoring presidents, admirals, and consequential battles.

Assessment​


  • Factual core: Credible reporting of internal discussions about renaming CVN-81. The Trump-name option is real enough that sources flagged it, but it is not a confirmed decision. The Medal of Honor recommendation for Miller is a separate (and family-welcomed) track.
  • Partisan framing on the forum: The OP treats the story as settled fact and reduces it to “Trump is a draft-dodging felon,” which is emotional signaling rather than analysis. The “feminine name” reply is a side jab that sidesteps the actual historical and policy questions.
  • Substantive issues worth debating:
    • Should carriers primarily honor presidents/admirals/battles, or can exceptional enlisted heroism also qualify?
    • Is renaming a ship still years from delivery (and already being called only by hull number) a routine administrative adjustment or political erasure?
    • Does recommending the Medal of Honor while moving the name to a different ship count as elevating or diminishing Miller’s recognition?
    • Precedent: Naming after a sitting president is unusual; most presidential carriers were named after the individuals left office or died.
Bottom line: The CNN exclusive describes real internal deliberations, not a completed renaming. The JPP thread is early, low-content partisan reaction that does not engage the underlying policy or historical questions. Miller’s Pearl Harbor actions remain a legitimate naval valor story regardless of what name ultimately goes on CVN-81.


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signalmankenneth said:

WTF! This draft dodging coward and convicted felon is the last person one want to name a navy ship after?!!​

No Trump has served in the military in over 8 generations?!!

The US Navy is working to rename an aircraft carrier under construction that was set to honor a Black sailor hailed for his heroic actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor, three sources familiar with internal discussions told CNN.

During President Donald Trump’s first term, the Navy announced that the Ford-class carrier would be called the USS Doris Miller, recognizing an enlisted sailor who helped defend US forces from Japan’s attack.

It’s unclear what the Navy is seeking to change the name of the carrier to, though two of the sources said there have been internal conversations about renaming it to honor Trump. It would be an unprecedented move to name an aircraft carrier after a sitting president.

The Navy is looking instead to rename another warship after Miller, according to one of the sources, and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for military valor. The final authorization for the award is up to Congress and approval from Trump.

Thomas Bledsoe, Miller’s great-nephew, said Miller’s family had not been informed of the change or the renewed effort to award his great-uncle with the Medal of Honor. The family has been working to get him the Medal of Honor “for years,” Bledsoe said, and called the Navy’s move to recommend the honor “very positive.”

The Navy directed questions from CNN to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. A Department of Defense spokesperson said they had nothing to announce at this time.

The effort to rename the USS Doris Miller has been underway since earlier this year, the sources said. Acting Secretary of the Navy Hung Cao and his office have also been looking into updating the official guidance for how ships should be named and specifying who they can be named after, including presidents, two of the sources said.

Amid conversations over the ship’s name, the Navy has effectively stopped referring to the ship as the USS Doris Miller internally and is only calling it by its hull number, CVN-81, one of the sources said. A recent White House executive order on shipbuilding also referred to the ship only as CVN-81, tasking the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy to report back with a plan to replace the ship’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system with steam and hydraulic systems.

The Navy is under a time crunch to finalize the name of the carrier as the ship’s keel-laying ceremony is expected at the end of this year. The ceremony is a public event marking an important step in a ship’s construction. The ship is not expected to be delivered until 2034, USNI News first reported, due to shipbuilder constraints.

Former Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly announced the new carrier’s name in honor of Miller in January 2020, during a Martin Luther King, Jr. Day ceremony in Pearl Harbor.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/20/politics/navy-weighs-renaming-carrier-black-war-hero-to-trump
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So Cartoon Ken, you obviously never served boot. You realize there is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier named after Clinton in 2025 under construction right? An ACTUAL draft dodger? STFU you never served partisan asshole. Seriously.
 
Sailor said:
So Cartoon Ken, you obviously never served boot. You realize there is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier named after Clinton in 2025 under construction right? An ACTUAL draft dodger? STFU you never served partisan asshole. Seriously.
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Yes, of all presidents, Clinton is the only one that is provably a draft dodger. Sure, Trump, among others, is questionable about his willingness to serve or be drafted, but that's different from Clinton outright gaming the system in a provable manner to avoid being drafted.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yes, of all presidents, Clinton is the only one that is provably a draft dodger. Sure, Trump, among others, is questionable about his willingness to serve or be drafted, but that's different from Clinton outright gaming the system in a provable manner to avoid being drafted.
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Correct. And he readily admitted it.
 
signalmankenneth said:

WTF! This draft dodging coward and convicted felon is the last person one want to name a navy ship after?!!​

No Trump has served in the military in over 8 generations?!!

The US Navy is working to rename an aircraft carrier under construction that was set to honor a Black sailor hailed for his heroic actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor, three sources familiar with internal discussions told CNN.

During President Donald Trump’s first term, the Navy announced that the Ford-class carrier would be called the USS Doris Miller, recognizing an enlisted sailor who helped defend US forces from Japan’s attack.

It’s unclear what the Navy is seeking to change the name of the carrier to, though two of the sources said there have been internal conversations about renaming it to honor Trump. It would be an unprecedented move to name an aircraft carrier after a sitting president.

The Navy is looking instead to rename another warship after Miller, according to one of the sources, and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for military valor. The final authorization for the award is up to Congress and approval from Trump.

Thomas Bledsoe, Miller’s great-nephew, said Miller’s family had not been informed of the change or the renewed effort to award his great-uncle with the Medal of Honor. The family has been working to get him the Medal of Honor “for years,” Bledsoe said, and called the Navy’s move to recommend the honor “very positive.”

The Navy directed questions from CNN to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. A Department of Defense spokesperson said they had nothing to announce at this time.

The effort to rename the USS Doris Miller has been underway since earlier this year, the sources said. Acting Secretary of the Navy Hung Cao and his office have also been looking into updating the official guidance for how ships should be named and specifying who they can be named after, including presidents, two of the sources said.

Amid conversations over the ship’s name, the Navy has effectively stopped referring to the ship as the USS Doris Miller internally and is only calling it by its hull number, CVN-81, one of the sources said. A recent White House executive order on shipbuilding also referred to the ship only as CVN-81, tasking the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy to report back with a plan to replace the ship’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system with steam and hydraulic systems.

The Navy is under a time crunch to finalize the name of the carrier as the ship’s keel-laying ceremony is expected at the end of this year. The ceremony is a public event marking an important step in a ship’s construction. The ship is not expected to be delivered until 2034, USNI News first reported, due to shipbuilder constraints.

Former Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly announced the new carrier’s name in honor of Miller in January 2020, during a Martin Luther King, Jr. Day ceremony in Pearl Harbor.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/20/politics/navy-weighs-renaming-carrier-black-war-hero-to-trump
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I wouldn’t gamble against Trump naming everything and anything he can after himself, not only due to his narcissism but also because the boys have copyrights on the name
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yes, of all presidents, Clinton is the only one that is provably a draft dodger. Sure, Trump, among others, is questionable about his willingness to serve or be drafted, but that's different from Clinton outright gaming the system in a provable manner to avoid being drafted.
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Come on, you really don’t think daddy didn’t find a doctor to legitimize Donnie’s shin splints, you can’t be that gullible
 
signalmankenneth said:

WTF! This draft dodging coward and convicted felon is the last person one want to name a navy ship after?!!​

No Trump has served in the military in over 8 generations?!!

The US Navy is working to rename an aircraft carrier under construction that was set to honor a Black sailor hailed for his heroic actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor, three sources familiar with internal discussions told CNN.

During President Donald Trump’s first term, the Navy announced that the Ford-class carrier would be called the USS Doris Miller, recognizing an enlisted sailor who helped defend US forces from Japan’s attack.

It’s unclear what the Navy is seeking to change the name of the carrier to, though two of the sources said there have been internal conversations about renaming it to honor Trump. It would be an unprecedented move to name an aircraft carrier after a sitting president.

The Navy is looking instead to rename another warship after Miller, according to one of the sources, and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for military valor. The final authorization for the award is up to Congress and approval from Trump.

Thomas Bledsoe, Miller’s great-nephew, said Miller’s family had not been informed of the change or the renewed effort to award his great-uncle with the Medal of Honor. The family has been working to get him the Medal of Honor “for years,” Bledsoe said, and called the Navy’s move to recommend the honor “very positive.”

The Navy directed questions from CNN to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. A Department of Defense spokesperson said they had nothing to announce at this time.

The effort to rename the USS Doris Miller has been underway since earlier this year, the sources said. Acting Secretary of the Navy Hung Cao and his office have also been looking into updating the official guidance for how ships should be named and specifying who they can be named after, including presidents, two of the sources said.

Amid conversations over the ship’s name, the Navy has effectively stopped referring to the ship as the USS Doris Miller internally and is only calling it by its hull number, CVN-81, one of the sources said. A recent White House executive order on shipbuilding also referred to the ship only as CVN-81, tasking the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy to report back with a plan to replace the ship’s electromagnetic aircraft launch system with steam and hydraulic systems.

The Navy is under a time crunch to finalize the name of the carrier as the ship’s keel-laying ceremony is expected at the end of this year. The ceremony is a public event marking an important step in a ship’s construction. The ship is not expected to be delivered until 2034, USNI News first reported, due to shipbuilder constraints.

Former Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly announced the new carrier’s name in honor of Miller in January 2020, during a Martin Luther King, Jr. Day ceremony in Pearl Harbor.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/20/politics/navy-weighs-renaming-carrier-black-war-hero-to-trump
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The Navy is looking instead to rename another warship after Miller, according to one of the sources, and is recommending him for the Medal of Honor, the highest decoration for military valor. The final authorization for the award is up to Congress and approval from Trump.

Thomas Bledsoe, Miller’s great-nephew, said Miller’s family had not been informed of the change or the renewed effort to award his great-uncle with the Medal of Honor. The family has been working to get him the Medal of Honor “for years,” Bledsoe said, and called the Navy’s move to recommend the honor “very positive.”

Hmm. The right... Name a ship after him for his above honorable service and more importantly recognize his sacrifice with the Medal of Honor. Which actually means something. The left.... .let's name a Carrier after some black dude we really do not care about for political points. His actual sacrifice? Fuck him, we do not even recognize that. That right there shows anyone whar the left is really about. Pathetic. And right from your own link Cartoon Ken. You fucking never served puke.
 
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