New Numbers Show Just How Badly Trump Wrecked the Economy

[Into the Night]

This from the retards who brought you:

• "Inlayshun iz at zerow persent"
• when inflation was at 9.3%

FYI you almost have to go all the way back to the depression to see inflation even close to as bad as it was under Biden (there was only one other time since 1930 (over 90 years ago) when inflation was that high).

Reasons for high inflation:

• Trump/GOP... Fighting Iran... inflation level moderate
• Biden/Dems... Fighting the flu... inflation level severe

No. Inflation was higher during Obama/Biden.
In that economic depression, the dollar lost half its value.
Not even the Great Depression lost that much in the value of the dollar.

Source: Federal Reserve, US Treasury

 

[WCM]

Bulverism fallacy.

Uhhh, A little help plz google

I have definitely never heard the word "bulverism" before.

 

[QP!]

The "pandemic" was pretty much over and done with by the time Bribem took office. His decisions on the economy and getting it restarted were disastrously poor, but typical for a Leftist Democrat--dump cubic dollars into the economy to "jump start" it. Autopen should have just reopened the economy entirely and let people go back to work.

But neeeoooo! Bribem chose to try and force masking, vaccines, and what-have-you on the nation as if Chinese Disease was never going to end. The combo of an economy very slowly restarting (and mostly a problem in blue states BTW) and huge new government debt with zero ROI created a sudden and disastrously alarming jump in inflation.

This stupidity continued through Autopen's term until roughly the last 8 months to a year when Bribem realized his ass was never going to get reelected on what might be called "the Jimmy Carter plan." So, all of a sudden, the brakes on stupidity were on his administration began to try really had to get inflation under control, bring down consumer prices, etc. It was too little, too late. The damage was done. So, using the canard of looking at the economy just at the end of Bribem's term doesn't paint the whole picture.

And yet the ENTIRE WORLD... every country was dealing with world wide inflation making your attempt to dismiss as nothing look stupid.

You are arguing that the US should have, alone in the world not suffered it.

the fact is Biden and his Admin managed world wide inflation better than any other country did and that is to their great credit.

Fact is Trump and his Admin dealt with Covid worse than almost all other countries did and that lead to what Biden had to fix.

 

[Tbird19482]

No. Inflation was higher during Obama/Biden.
In that economic depression, the dollar lost half its value.
Not even the Great Depression lost that much in the value of the dollar.

Source: Federal Reserve, US Treasury

Talking about Depressions when are you ever going to post a link showing all of us we were in that Depression you say we had under Obama?
It has been MONTHS since you said we had a depression under Obama and yet you have never backed it up with some proof.
I am sure there are people out there that never realized we had a depression then , I know I don't remember one.
I remember the recession near depression we had under Bush and the economy recovering under Obama but no depression.
Please back up your claims.

 

[WCM]

And yet the ENTIRE WORLD... every country was dealing with world wide inflation making your attempt to dismiss as nothing look stupid.

You are arguing that the US should have, alone in the world not suffered it.

the fact is Biden and his Admin managed world wide inflation better than any other country did and that is to their great credit.

I checked ONE country, Canada, and ours only reached 8.1%, and that's with our farce of a Liberal gov't.

Fact is Trump and his Admin dealt with Covid worse than almost all other countries did and that lead to what Biden had to fix.

That's a talking point you muppet, not a fact.

Examples of covid stupidity are like when DeBlasio said "Ride the subway like normal" in mid-February of 2020. FYI the NYC subway is a giant petri dish with 4.3M riders a day, who then spread out into crowded offices and schools where they expose another 10M people to whatever's afflicting them. That was stupid.

Blocking non-Americans from flying in from China was actually smart, but you all pretended that it was stupid because you're retarded fucking cultists.

Our Canadian gov't even acted like the Chinese flight ban was racist, then when the delta wave was going around India, Trudeau said "Let's ban flights from India", and suddenly that typer of thinking wasn't racist anymore. Isn't it funny how that works, cultist?

Dummy, I could pound you into the ground with a million ways that Trump fought covid better than our retards here did, but you won't listen to reason anyways. The things that just came out of your idiotic mouth today will continue coming out of your mouth for the rest of your lifetime - no matter what irrefutable facts are laid before you - because you're a dumb cultist who already got all the "info" you needed wanted from MSNBC.

 

[WCM]

Oh please, T-Bird, open your stupid mouth and try to contradict something I said.

 

[Tbird19482]

Oh please, T-Bird, open your stupid mouth and try to contradict something I said.

WHY????
I wasn't talking to you ASSHOLE.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

The "pandemic" was pretty much over and done with by the time Bribem took office.

How quickly we forget. That is absolutely untrue. The restrictions on open restaurants, churches, bars, etc. were lifted by then, but the pandemic -- and the deaths -- continued well into 2023 globally. From my AI again:

By the time Biden took office, supply chains were bolluxed up. Not his fault, nor Trump's.

I asked the AI to compile the same statistics as in my prior post for *only* Biden's administration in the interests of fairness. The pandemic was not Biden's fault nor was it Trump's. However, other than our horrendous death rate we fared much better economically than many other countries when it came to pandemic-caused inflation, shortages, unemployment.

The rest of your anti-vax spasm will be ignored as this is an economic discussion, not a chance to flap your hands and cry about "poison" ala #CokeHeadBrainWormGuy.

 

[WCM]

WHY????
I wasn't talking to you ASSHOLE.

You put a thumbdown on my post, three spots up, and that post is actually quite full of important things that people need to understand in order to have the most rudimentary understanding of: what was done poorly during covid, what was done well, why that's the case, and just how false the left-wing TDS narratives actually were.

Covid was actually far more of a false narrative parade than it was an actual pandemic.

Honestly, if you knew on day 1 of "Evening News, Starring Anthony 'Mr Science' Fauci", that he had funded gain-of-function research on bat-coronaviruses just two blocks away from the wetmarket, long before he ever floated the bad-bad-pangolin theory as the only likely origin of covid, and that him and his team were already illegally conspiring to keep that info away from investigators and the public, would you have trusted him even 1%?

Fauci was honestly a fly in the ointment, right from day 1.

His lies enjoyed the full protection of the Democrat party and the entire "*Trusted News Initiative" cabal for years after his lies were being exposed.

This was all "a huge, stupid conspiracy theory that involved way too many people to remain hidden", yet it was a huge conspiracy that involved thousands of people and remained largely hidden, and then was just denied and denied over and over again, to this day.





*Trusted News Initiative co-conspirators include, but are not limited to: news orgs like BBC (the alleged ringleaders), the Euro Broadcasting Union, Reuters, Associated Press, CBC, NYT, WashPo, and their social media heavyweights at FB, Twitter, Google, Microsoft and YouTube.

https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/media-centre/trusted-news-initiative-plan-disinformation-coronavirus

Trusted News Initiative (TNI) to combat spread of harmful vaccine disinformation and announces major research project

At a recent summit chaired by the BBC’s new Director General, Tim Davie, the Trusted News Initiative (TNI) agreed to focus on combatting the spread of harmful vaccine disinformation.

www.bbc.com

If you think that the fact that they were all ostensibly "working together to fight covid/2020 election disinformation" was no big deal, just think of the mind-control that went into:

1. Fauci saying "bad pangolin"
2. all those media orgs and social media orgs putting Fauci's message on blast
3. all of them omitting any mention of the BSL4 lab
4. social media giants banning and shadow-banning anyone who mentioned the presence of the BSL4 lab for a period of months
5. all the mocking of conservative "conspiracy theorists" for saying that there was a BSL4 lab by the wetmarket

Even though I was well aware of the BSL4 lab for months before it was no longer just a conspiracy theory, it was at least two full years before even I found out that Fauci was funding GoF research on bat coronaviruses there.

Side note: why do leftards hate Musk so much?
When Twitter was part of TNI, their fake bot army was quickly liking and sharing all of the Demonrats' false narratives, whiule Twitter was simultaneously banning/shadow-banning the truth. then news outlets would constantly cite the number of "likes and retweets" as if it was some kind of up-to-the-minute polling data, essentially verifying that "all the cool kids believe us, and everyone else is a kook."

When Elon pulled Twitter out of TNI, it really hamstrung TNI's ability to keep full control of all of the important narratives.

 

[Into the Night]

Uhhh, A little help plz google

I have definitely never heard the word "bulverism" before.

This fallacy occurs when one rejects all arguments solely by who made them.

The word 'bulverism' was coined by C.S. Lewis in 1941. It refers to a special type of insult fallacy coupled with a genetic fallacy.
Bulverism is separate from a mere genetic fallacy in that the insult fallacy component is incorporated into it.

Go read God in the Dock, and look for a character named Ezekial Bulver.

 

[Jarod]

I miss the old MAGA crew.... They gone. I wish they would just stop in and say hi sometimes.

 

[Into the Night]

And yet the ENTIRE WORLD... every country was dealing with world wide inflation making your attempt to dismiss as nothing look stupid.

The United States is not the world. There is no world currency, Kewpie.

You are arguing that the US should have, alone in the world not suffered it.

The United States is not the world, Kewpie.

the fact is Biden and his Admin managed world wide inflation better than any other country did and that is to their great credit.

Biden could manage tying his own shoes.
The United States is not the world, Kewpie. There is no world currency.

Fact is Trump and his Admin dealt with Covid worse than almost all other countries did and that lead to what Biden had to fix.

The Covid Hoax was created by Democrats. Biden did not fix the Covid Hoax, Kewpie.

 

[Into the Night]

I miss the old MAGA crew.... They gone. I wish they would just stop in and say hi sometimes.

MAGA is not a person, Pretender.

 

[Into the Night]

How quickly we forget. That is absolutely untrue. The restrictions on open restaurants, churches, bars, etc. were lifted by then, but the pandemic -- and the deaths -- continued well into 2023 globally. From my AI again:

Void authority fallacy.

Covid19 does not kill. No variant from the Covid/SARS series of viruses kill.

...deleted repetition...

Chanting does you no good, DumbOwl.

 

[tigerred59]

New Numbers Show Just How Badly Trump Wrecked the Economy​

Consumer Price Index report issued today by the Department of Labor showed that prices and inflation are up in September, and are significantly higher than they were last year. In September alone, prices rose 0.6 percent, the highest monthly increase in several months, showing that the damage caused by Trump's economic policies is only increasing. Those prices are, overall, 3.7 percent higher than they were last year.
Gas leveled out around $3.20 per gallon by the end of 2022, and stayed there till Trump took office. The national average today is $4.33.

American voters aren't stupid, even if Trump thinks they are. With his approval rating in the dirt and even his own party turning against him, it's clear that people recognize that Trump's choices — namely, invading Iran and setting up ludicrous tariffs — are what created the economic situation we're currently dealing with.

And the final indignity is that wages simply aren't catching up. The New York Times notes that hourly wages fell by 0.5 percent in August and are down 0.7 percent in the past year, putting them right around the level they were when Trump first took office. Your pay has not gone up, but the prices have.

New Numbers Show Just How Badly Trump Wrecked the Economy

Inflation and gas prices are up — and they're not coming down anytime soon

www.yahoo.com

We haven't seen anything yet, just wait until next year with this BBB unfolds.

 

[Tbird19482]

You put a thumbdown on my post, three spots up, and that post is actually quite full of important things that people need to understand in order to have the most rudimentary understanding of: what was done poorly during covid, what was done well, why that's the case, and just how false the left-wing TDS narratives actually were.

Covid was actually far more of a false narrative parade than it was an actual pandemic.

Honestly, if you knew on day 1 of "Evening News, Starring Anthony 'Mr Science' Fauci", that he had funded gain-of-function research on bat-coronaviruses just two blocks away from the wetmarket, long before he ever floated the bad-bad-pangolin theory as the only likely origin of covid, and that him and his team were already illegally conspiring to keep that info away from investigators and the public, would you have trusted him even 1%?

Fauci was honestly a fly in the ointment, right from day 1.

His lies enjoyed the full protection of the Democrat party and the entire "*Trusted News Initiative" cabal for years after his lies were being exposed.

This was all "a huge, stupid conspiracy theory that involved way too many people to remain hidden", yet it was a huge conspiracy that involved thousands of people and remained largely hidden, and then was just denied and denied over and over again, to this day.





*Trusted News Initiative co-conspirators include, but are not limited to: news orgs like BBC (the alleged ringleaders), the Euro Broadcasting Union, Reuters, Associated Press, CBC, NYT, WashPo, and their social media heavyweights at FB, Twitter, Google, Microsoft and YouTube.

https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/media-centre/trusted-news-initiative-plan-disinformation-coronavirus

Trusted News Initiative (TNI) to combat spread of harmful vaccine disinformation and announces major research project

At a recent summit chaired by the BBC’s new Director General, Tim Davie, the Trusted News Initiative (TNI) agreed to focus on combatting the spread of harmful vaccine disinformation.

www.bbc.com

If you think that the fact that they were all ostensibly "working together to fight covid/2020 election disinformation" was no big deal, just think of the mind-control that went into:

1. Fauci saying "bad pangolin"
2. all those media orgs and social media orgs putting Fauci's message on blast
3. all of them omitting any mention of the BSL4 lab
4. social media giants banning and shadow-banning anyone who mentioned the presence of the BSL4 lab for a period of months
5. all the mocking of conservative "conspiracy theorists" for saying that there was a BSL4 lab by the wetmarket

Even though I was well aware of the BSL4 lab for months before it was no longer just a conspiracy theory, it was at least two full years before even I found out that Fauci was funding GoF research on bat coronaviruses there.

Side note: why do leftards hate Musk so much?
When Twitter was part of TNI, their fake bot army was quickly liking and sharing all of the Demonrats' false narratives, whiule Twitter was simultaneously banning/shadow-banning the truth. then news outlets would constantly cite the number of "likes and retweets" as if it was some kind of up-to-the-minute polling data, essentially verifying that "all the cool kids believe us, and everyone else is a kook."

When Elon pulled Twitter out of TNI, it really hamstrung TNI's ability to keep full control of all of the important narratives.

Sorry I don't agree with everything in your post.
Get over it NO big deal.

 

[WCM]

Sorry I don't agree with everything in your post.
Get over it NO big deal.

Yet there is not a single thing that you dare try to refute.

Live with the knowledge that your life is built around beliefs & opinions devoid of any factual basis whastoever.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And yet the ENTIRE WORLD... every country was dealing with world wide inflation making your attempt to dismiss as nothing look stupid.

You are arguing that the US should have, alone in the world not suffered it.

the fact is Biden and his Admin managed world wide inflation better than any other country did and that is to their great credit.

Fact is Trump and his Admin dealt with Covid worse than almost all other countries did and that lead to what Biden had to fix.

This is just whataboutism using a generalization. Sweden, a nation that didn't shut down, experienced little inflation.

Fact is Trump and his administration dealt with Chinese Disease better than most nations. His big hit and drawback was blue state governors like Cuomo and Newsome who screwed the pooch with their heavy-handed state mandates.

 

[QP!]

This is just whataboutism using a generalization.

It is also the MOST RELEVANT way to look at world wide phenomena from covid to inflation.

You have to be stupid to think Covid will not infect the US if you have good leadership as they will protect the US from it.

You have to be stupid to think world wide inflation, post covid, hitting every other country and raising the prices of EVERYTHING coming into the US whether it be parts factories use or finished goods will not impact Americans.

Thus you are stupid. There is no way for the us to avoid world wide inflation when everything coming in to the US is inflated in price.

Sweden, a nation that didn't shut down, experienced little inflation.

LIES^^^

In the post-COVID-19 period, Sweden experienced a severe inflation shock that peaked at 12.3% in December 2022, a multi-decade high driven by surging energy prices, supply chain disruptions, and a weakening Swedish krona. This peak was slightly higher than the Euro Area average and the United States, but lower than many Eastern European countries. . [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

Fact is Trump and his administration dealt with Chinese Disease better than most nations.

His big hit and drawback was blue state governors like Cuomo and Newsome who screwed the pooch with their heavy-handed state mandates.

LIES^^^

During the timeline of the Donald Trump administration's response to the pandemic (from the first identified US case in January 2020 through January 20, 2021), the United States suffered approximately 400,000 total COVID-19 deaths, resulting in a per capita death rate that was significantly higher than most other high-income peer nations. [1, 2, 3]

 

[Cypress]

you almost have to go all the way back to the depression to see inflation even close to as bad as it was under Biden!

^^^ Wrong. Inflation got worse under Gerald Ford, Carter, and Reagan in the 70s and early 80s.

You were only off by ~half a century.

So from now on nothing you claim can be trusted.