Nightmare Is Over,' EPA Repeals WOTUS

domer76 said:
Everything is connected, idiots. Your dumbfuck farmer, when he applies his Roundup or other herbicide on his ditchbanks, it just doesn’t go away. Some works its way downstream into other waterways.

You know what groundwater has the highest contamination of nitrates. The ones right next to golf courses

Never see that coal ash settling pond breech a couple years ago? Right next to a river. Same applies to your farmer John’s waste settling ponds.
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You're arguing with really stupid people. Give it up. I remember having a conversation with my STUPID brother about 'habitats' and 'ecosystems' 30 YEARS ago. (Not a clue. But then maybe that's why he lives in a trailer and I live on a golf course. Just saying. -- I've done the due diligence on the golf course chems. Unless they are lying to me...)
 
Man do rightists seem to be clueless about environmental things. Why is it the city liberals need to tell those that call the rural areas home how not to screw it up. Even with more natural stuff, you have to be super careful about runoff. I used a spore powder to deal with Japanese beetles. You have to make sure you have a clear time where it isn't supposed to rain for at least 24 hours. You have to spread it on the ground with gloved hands while wearing a painters mask. Then you mist it gently into the topsoil.

There are so many better things for protecting your crops than those chemicals that big businesses push to keep around because they are so cheap to make and sell to the clueless. Many essential oils or simple natural things will do the job perfectly. They just aren't dirt cheap like the chemicals. On the other hand, if you have a bunch of scrap cedar just soak them in a bucket of water. You can apply that to ward off many insects.
 
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Jade Dragon said:
Man do rightists seem to be clueless about environmental things. Why is it the city liberals need to tell those that call the rural areas home how not to screw it up. Even with more natural stuff, you have to be super careful about runoff. I used a spore powder to deal with Japanese beetles. You have to make sure you have a clear time where it isn't supposed to rain for at least 24 hours. You have to spread it on the ground with gloved hands and a painters mask. Then you mist it gently into the topsoil.

There are so many better things for protecting your crops than those chemicals that big businesses push to keep around because they are so cheap to make and sell to the clueless. Many essential oils or simple natural things will do the job perfectly. They just aren't dirt cheap like the chemicals. On the other hand, if you have a bunch of scrap cedar just soak them in a bucket of water. You can apply that to ward off many insects.
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Nice work

The Clean water Rule actually brought more clarity and consistency into the WOTUS framework .

Righty only oppose it because some wingnut blog told them to, and because Obama
 
Cypress said:
Prior to 18 months ago wingnuts had never heard of the Clean Water Rule.

To this day none of them could even articulate what it even is in any credible and knowledgeable way, nor do any of them actually know anything about Wotus, the cw rule, or the CWA._.without googling and plagiarizeing someone else's words.

All they really know is that some rightwing blog ordered them to believe the clean water rule is a nightmare
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lol, I know very well what WOTUS was from Day One. My home and yard were affected.
Also anyone living in AK knows about the militarization of the EPA under Obama. What was that all about?
 
Cypress said:
Nice work

The Clean water Rule actually brought more clarity and consistency into the WOTUS framework .

Righty only oppose it because some wingnut blog told them to, and because Obama
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As always Crypiss is just a bullshit merchant on steroids. Here is a report from somebody that used to work at the EPA and actually knows what he's talking about.

What Went Wrong With WOTUS: Reflections on Economic Valuation and Environmental Regulation

In 2015, the Environmental Protection Agency issued a regulation addressing the definition of the “waters of the United States,” also known as WOTUS. The controversial rule would have expanded federal jurisdiction under the Clean Water Act, potentially extending it to cover isolated wetlands, small streams, and other such waters.

In this PERC Policy Series, former EPA economist and PERC Lone Mountain Fellow R. David Simpson recounts his experience leading a group of EPA economists who reviewed the economic analysis that supported the 2015 rule.

With the benefit of hindsight, Simpson reflects on the episode and explains that the analysis of the Clean Water Rule left much to be desired. Rather than using the agency’s own original research to estimate the potential effects of the proposed WOTUS rule, the EPA’s analysis relied on dated estimates that employed questionable economic valuation methods.

As Simpson explains, the controversy over the WOTUS rule exemplifies a growing distrust of experts in Washington, D.C., who put forth far-reaching regulatory proposals that have widely dispersed benefits but whose costs are concentrated and borne by identifiable people.

Simpson concludes by offering suggestions for improving the process of valuing environmental benefits from proposed regulations. Economic analysis will be most useful, Simpson explains, if it helps us prioritize our challenges, rather than being used as a rubber stamp to endorse any and all environmental regulation.

This paper is part of the PERC Policy Series of essays on timely environmental topics, published by the Property and Environment Research Center, a nonprofit research center located in Bozeman, Montana, that explores market solutions to environmental problems.

Read more: https://www.perc.org/2019/04/08/what-went-wrong-with-wotus/
 
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Cypress said:
Prior to 18 months ago wingnuts had never heard of the Clean Water Rule.

To this day none of them could even articulate what it even is in any credible and knowledgeable way, nor do any of them actually know anything about Wotus, the cw rule, or the CWA._.without googling and plagiarizeing someone else's words.

All they really know is that some rightwing blog ordered them to believe the clean water rule is a nightmare
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Worked with it throughout my 40 year career...
 
Jade Dragon said:
Man do rightists seem to be clueless about environmental things. Why is it the city liberals need to tell those that call the rural areas home how not to screw it up. Even with more natural stuff, you have to be super careful about runoff. I used a spore powder to deal with Japanese beetles. You have to make sure you have a clear time where it isn't supposed to rain for at least 24 hours. You have to spread it on the ground with gloved hands while wearing a painters mask. Then you mist it gently into the topsoil.

There are so many better things for protecting your crops than those chemicals that big businesses push to keep around because they are so cheap to make and sell to the clueless. Many essential oils or simple natural things will do the job perfectly. They just aren't dirt cheap like the chemicals. On the other hand, if you have a bunch of scrap cedar just soak them in a bucket of water. You can apply that to ward off many insects.
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I learned in the 70s how to deal with them from my grandfather, a staunch Republican like me. Doesn't involve spreading chemicals. This proves that you're FOS.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
contrary to your claims I think all of us wingnuts knew that Obama tried to exert federal authority on every water puddle by claiming it was navigable...........
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or a tributary of an intrastate waterway that is part of navigable interstate waterway...
yes basically puddles ( ephemeral streams too)
 
Steven VanderMolen said:
Domer is an IDIOT, just ignore the fool.
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Here’s the way it works, cunt. There is no such place as “away”

High mountain lakes in Idaho have mercury contamination. How the fuck do you think that happens, bitch.

The Rathfrum Prarie Aquifer in North Idaho, a sole source aquifer, has experienced increasing nitrate levels for years. How do you think that happens, bitch!

Down gradient in a rural part of SW Idaho has massive nitrate contamination. Know what’s up gradient? A golf course. How the fuck did that happen, bitch?

The Spokane River in Post Falls, Idaho is loaded with PCBs. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Fish in the Snake River have significant levels of DDT, PCBs and other chemicals. DDT was banned in the 70s. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Fort Hall Indian Reservation in Eastern Idaho with two nasty chemicals in their groundwater. EDB and DBCP. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Endocrine disrupters in everything from groundwater to milk. How do you think that happens, bitch?

You RW idiots are fucking scientific idiots when it comes to issues like this

Stick with something you’re good at, such as jacking off to porn
 
domer76 said:
Here’s the way it works, cunt. There is no such place as “away”

High mountain lakes in Idaho have mercury contamination. How the fuck do you think that happens, bitch.

The Rathfrum Prarie Aquifer in North Idaho, a sole source aquifer, has experienced increasing nitrate levels for years. How do you think that happens, bitch!

The Spokane River in Post Falls, Idaho is loaded with PCBs. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Fish in the Snake River have significant levels of DDT, PCBs and other chemicals. DDT was banned in the 70s. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Fort Hall Indian Reservation in Eastern Idaho with two nasty chemicals in their groundwater. EDB and DBCP. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Endocrine disrupters in everything from groundwater to milk. How do you think that happens, bitch?

You RW idiots are fucking scientific idiots when it comes to issues like this

Stick with something you’re good at, such as jacking off to porn
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I am not sure which is better cuntwhistle or cuntfart, should we put it to a vote?
 
domer76 said:
Here’s the way it works, cunt. There is no such place as “away”

High mountain lakes in Idaho have mercury contamination. How the fuck do you think that happens, bitch.

The Rathfrum Prarie Aquifer in North Idaho, a sole source aquifer, has experienced increasing nitrate levels for years. How do you think that happens, bitch!

Down gradient in a rural part of SW Idaho has massive nitrate contamination. Know what’s up gradient? A golf course. How the fuck did that happen, bitch?

The Spokane River in Post Falls, Idaho is loaded with PCBs. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Fish in the Snake River have significant levels of DDT, PCBs and other chemicals. DDT was banned in the 70s. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Fort Hall Indian Reservation in Eastern Idaho with two nasty chemicals in their groundwater. EDB and DBCP. How do you think that happens, bitch?

Endocrine disrupters in everything from groundwater to milk. How do you think that happens, bitch?

You RW idiots are fucking scientific idiots when it comes to issues like this

Stick with something you’re good at, such as jacking off to porn
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Dumber69 is such an hysterical cuntfart/whistle, let's take the first one of his claims. Mercury is released by fires and is entirely natural, not that the cuntfart/whistle would ever tell you that!! The other way is from historic gold/silver mining, again he'll never tell you that either.

https://www.boisestatepublicradio.o...ntamination-impacts-idaho-waters-and-wildlife
 
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