Only 29% of Democrats are Proud to be American vs 90% Republicans Proud to be American

If this is true, $300 Billion for rebuilding Iran as one of the items in the peace deal is not the same thing as the US giving $300 Billion to Iran just to treat them like they somehow won. Nobody has faithfully represented the deal. You simply give characterizations.

You still haven't made an honest post on JPP.
It's the same thing Obama did, but less money. Trump created the crisis by attacking Iran. Now you want to give trump credit for "solving" a problem HE created. You don't give a fireman credit for putting out a fire HE started.

America and the world are a much more unsafe because of Trump.
 
It's the same thing Obama did, but less money.
When did Obama enter the picture?

You lied about the terms of the deal. It would appear that we have resolved that matter. Is there anything else you need to discuss?

Trump created the crisis by attacking Iran.
Correct. Trump should not have attacked Iran.

Now you want to give trump credit for "solving" a problem HE created.
No. I'm glad we were able to clear this up as well.
 
You still haven't made an honest post on JPP.


You still haven't voted.


 
When did Obama enter the picture?

You lied about the terms of the deal. It would appear that we have resolved that matter. Is there anything else you need to discuss?


Correct. Trump should not have attacked Iran.


No. I'm glad we were able to clear this up as well.
I have not lied about anything. Turns out its all moot now, the "signing of the MOU" has been canceled.

Don't worry, trump will say "a deal is at hand" next Friday and the Friday after and the trumptards will buy it every time.
 
I have not lied about anything.
You lie about everything. You are lying about never having lied. You have not made an honest post.

Turns out its all moot now, the "signing of the MOU" has been canceled.
... and nothing has been honestly discussed.

Don't worry, trump will say "a deal is at hand" next Friday and the Friday after and the trumptards will buy it every time.
Let's jump to the chase; I am going to ask you the standard question that I always ask you, which requires honesty to answer, so you EVADE every single time, and this time will be no different:

What will be your lame excuse when Trump signs a deal? i.e.

You: Trump will never sign a deal; he'll just announce that one is at hand and Trumptards will buy it.
Trump: A deal is at hand
Trump: [signs the deal]
You: [insert lame excuse]

My question is "What lame excuse will you be using when Trump signs a deal?"
 
You lie about everything. You are lying about never having lied. You have not made an honest post.


... and nothing has been honestly discussed.


Let's jump to the chase; I am going to ask you the standard question that I always ask you, which requires honesty to answer, so you EVADE every single time, and this time will be no different:

What will be your lame excuse when Trump signs a deal? i.e.

You: Trump will never sign a deal; he'll just announce that one is at hand and Trumptards will buy it.
Trump: A deal is at hand
Trump: [signs the deal]
You: [insert lame excuse]

My question is "What lame excuse will you be using when Trump signs a deal?"
Haven't lied about a thing. Your problem is you know I'm right.

My answer is that I'll believe it when I see it. So far trump has broken most of the promises he's made to the gullible trumptard cult.
 
You're lying ... again.


1. I don't have a problem
2. You don't have a point, beyond disinformation


That's not an answer. What lame excuse will you use? We can both agree that you won't be using any sort of intelligent excuse.
Wow, you are really lashing out. You DO have a problem. Your problem is that if one doesn't answer your question exactly the way you want, you accuse them of lying.

Don't know what to tell you, boss. trump has claimed "a deal is about to be signed" every Friday since he started his illegal war of choice. It happened again today. How many times are you going to be Charlie Brown and hope Lucy won't snatch the football away next Friday and the Friday after? You see, my friend, I make observations and use my observations to predict the future.

Don't be a trumptard. Pretty much every thing coming out of the trump White House has been a lie. Why should tomorrow or this next Friday be any different?
 
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Any Dems or leftists at JPP able and or willing to convincingly say that they don't represent that 29%, and that you actually are proud of being an American? If so, then you might want to consider joining the proud all-American Republican party, and actually salute the red white and blue flag.
I would no more join the Republican Party of today than I would join the Assholes of America Party. One of the reasons so many Republicans consider that they are proud to be American...is because they are proud of Trump, who is a disgrace to America. If the question were put "Are you proud of how America is being run by the current administration?"...I would say, "NOT PROUD AT ALL."

If you consider that to be a negative, that is because you are a moron, not because I am being unfaithful to my country.

So take your bullshit and shove it up your ass, because you assholes would not recognize true pride in country if it bit you on that ass.
 
I would no more join the Republican Party of today than I would join the Assholes of America Party. One of the reasons so many Republicans consider that they are proud to be American...is because they are proud of Trump, who is a disgrace to America. If the question were put "Are you proud of how America is being run by the current administration?"...I would say, "NOT PROUD AT ALL."

If you consider that to be a negative, that is because you are a moron, not because I am being unfaithful to my country.

So take your bullshit and shove it up your ass, because you assholes would not recognize true pride in country if it bit you on that ass.
Nice whiny, hissy fit there Ross. Hope you feel better. No one else gives a fuck about your rant.
 
Republicans love America and Republican presidents like a baby loves it's mommy.

Democrats love America but are not afraid to point out it can be better.
Well said, but how we get better is a point of conflict.

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Republicans love America and Republican presidents like a baby loves it's mommy.

Democrats love America but are not afraid to point out it can be better.
Well said, but how we get better is a point of conflict.
I would settle for just trump keeping his campaign promises - such as "bringing prices down on day one, ending the Ukraine War on day one, and no new foreign entanglements". He didn't tho - not even close.
America needs to do better from within. The rest will take care of itself. Neither Russia nor Ukraine wants the war to end. That has become obvious—same situation in the Middle East. Iran will continue to f' with the Strait of Hormuz, and the only solution I see is a shortcut pipeline, which is currently being built.
I understand Trump's attempt; he seriously underestimated the Iranian leaders' resolve. I think he thought it would be an easy regime change. He neglected the fact that few current Iranians have any knowledge of living outside the thumb of hard-core religious leaders. So here we are.
 
Well said, but how we get better is a point of conflict.

America needs to do better from within. The rest will take care of itself.
I wish it could. Since the 70's trillions of dollars have moved from the bottom earners in America to the top 1%. Since the Citizens' United Decision, where SCOTUS deemed money was like speech, the wealthy and corporations have been able to literally purchase politicians. The reason we saw Elon so much and that DOGE shit is because Elon bought his way into that role with his donations to trump's campaign. And how did that work out? A disaster.
Neither Russia nor Ukraine wants the war to end.
That's SO NOT true. Ukraine did not want to be invaded, their people kidnapped and raped. Please tell me how you think Ukraine WANTS to be blown up?
That has become obvious—same situation in the Middle East. Iran will continue to f' with the Strait of Hormuz, and the only solution I see is a shortcut pipeline, which is currently being built.
The only reason we know the Straight can be used as a weapon now is because trump listened to Bibi rather than our intelligence folks. Now America is weaker and so is the world - Iran knows they can bring the world to its knees because trump showed the world this.
I understand Trump's attempt; he seriously underestimated the Iranian leaders' resolve. I think he thought it would be an easy regime change. He neglected the fact that few current Iranians have any knowledge of living outside the thumb of hard-core religious leaders. So here we are.
All of this could have been avoided if he'd listened to our own intelligence folks. Tulsi is gone now - not because her hubby is sick, but because she called out trump's lie before the war that Iran was not a threat.

trump has embraced authoritarian leaders while giving the middle finger to our allies. America has never been more vulnerable.
 
I wish it could. Since the 70's trillions of dollars have moved from the bottom earners in America to the top 1%. Since the Citizens' United Decision, where SCOTUS deemed money was like speech, the wealthy and corporations have been able to literally purchase politicians.
That goes back to election politicians who actually want to work for their constituents. I would have put Pratt in that category.
The reason we saw Elon so much and that DOGE shit is because Elon bought his way into that role with his donations to trump's campaign. And how did that work out? A disaster.
DOGE was a good idea, but the timeline needed to be years, not months.
That's SO NOT true. Ukraine did not want to be invaded, their people kidnapped and raped. Please tell me how you think Ukraine WANTS to be blown up?
I didn't say Ukraine wanted to be invaded, but at this point, neither side seems to actually get serious about solving the problem.
The only reason we know the Straight can be used as a weapon now is because trump listened to Bibi rather than our intelligence folks.
The Strait of Hormuz has been a weapon used at least seven times since 1979.
Now America is weaker and so is the world - Iran knows they can bring the world to its knees because trump showed the world this.

All of this could have been avoided if he'd listened to our own intelligence folks. Tulsi is gone now - not because her hubby is sick, but because she called out trump's lie before the war that Iran was not a threat.
We don't know that but I do see a look of "I wish Trump would shut up" on Rubio's face. He would have been a much better president than Trump. He is smarter, has a much better understanding of consequences than Trump, plus he has a much longer fuse. I predict Vance understands that and will use his family as a reason for not running opening the door for Rubio.
That said, I would love to pick a democrat, say Shapiro, as his running mate.

trump has embraced authoritarian leaders while giving the middle finger to our allies. America has never been more vulnerable.
We are not vulnerable. Our allies rely on the US for $$. Most of Europe is in the throes of a complete takeover by immigrants from North Africa. They are in a quagmire of no return.
 
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