Public Troubled by ‘Deep State’

Rad Dude said:
A majority of the American public believe that the U.S. government engages in widespread monitoring of its own citizens and worry that the U.S. government could be invading their own privacy. The Monmouth University Poll also finds a large bipartisan majority who feel that national policy is being manipulated or directed by a “Deep State” of unelected government officials.

“This is a worrisome finding. The strength of our government relies on public faith in protecting our freedoms, which is not particularly robust. And it’s not a Democratic or Republican issue. These concerns span the political spectrum,”

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“We usually expect opinions on the operation of government to shift depending on which party is in charge. But there’s an ominous feeling by Democrats and Republicans alike that a ‘Deep State’ of unelected operatives are pulling the levers of power,” said Murray.

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Few Americans (13%) are very familiar with the term “Deep State;” another 24% are somewhat familiar, while 63% say they are not familiar with this term. However, when the term is described as a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy, nearly 3-in-4 (74%) say they believe this type of apparatus exists in Washington. This includes 27% who say it definitely exists and 47% who say it probably exists.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_031918/

Most americans now agree, THE DEEP STATE IS REAL
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Yes, yes, and Poseidon is my bookie, and Bigfoot is my massage therapist.
 
Jade Dragon said:
Yes, yes, and Poseidon is my bookie, and Bigfoot is my massage therapist.
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why is it so hard for you to believe that unelected bureaucrats might try to enforce their will? this isn't illuminatati reptillian shit, dumbfuck. It's plain and obvious as the sun in the sky. Look how corrupt hoover was for like 50 god damn years. Look up operation northwoods. Look up mkultra. look up the nsa and their insidious spy techniques. this isn't anything new.
 
Rad Dude said:
A majority of the American public believe that the U.S. government engages in widespread monitoring of its own citizens and worry that the U.S. government could be invading their own privacy. The Monmouth University Poll also finds a large bipartisan majority who feel that national policy is being manipulated or directed by a “Deep State” of unelected government officials.

“This is a worrisome finding. The strength of our government relies on public faith in protecting our freedoms, which is not particularly robust. And it’s not a Democratic or Republican issue. These concerns span the political spectrum,”

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“We usually expect opinions on the operation of government to shift depending on which party is in charge. But there’s an ominous feeling by Democrats and Republicans alike that a ‘Deep State’ of unelected operatives are pulling the levers of power,” said Murray.

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Few Americans (13%) are very familiar with the term “Deep State;” another 24% are somewhat familiar, while 63% say they are not familiar with this term. However, when the term is described as a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy, nearly 3-in-4 (74%) say they believe this type of apparatus exists in Washington. This includes 27% who say it definitely exists and 47% who say it probably exists.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_031918/

Most americans now agree, THE DEEP STATE IS REAL
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the only thing that troubles me about the deepstate is that I know the deepstate could be verily easily uprooted and utterly destroyed in a day by just a few good men; and it aint happening, yet. I still do hope for their complete destruction; lawfully, by just a few good men.
 
Rad Dude said:
why is it so hard for you to believe that unelected bureaucrats might try to enforce their will? this isn't illuminatati reptillian shit, dumbfuck. It's plain and obvious as the sun in the sky. Look how corrupt hoover was for like 50 god damn years. Look up operation northwoods. Look up mkultra. look up the nsa and their insidious spy techniques. this isn't anything new.
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I don't doubt there's corruption, and manipulation, but all this rightist nonsense, over personal ideals, and fears is nonsense. The FBI isn't out to get Trump, anymore than they were out to get Hillary. Hard to manipulate things when there is no bias route taken. No one is trying to disarm Americans, as the government could crush any militia that opposed it anyway. Besides, if anything government is conforming to arm manufacturing money interests, and have made guns more easy to obtain. Money, power, and cushy jobs keep the government in place. The government is already in control anyway, so what would they takeover? Congress sits on their duff half the time, and get paid, and thoroughly insured for nothing. They can even vote to raise their own pay, so what more control is needed.
 
Jade Dragon said:
I don't doubt there's corruption, and manipulation, but all this rightist nonsense, over personal ideals, and fears is nonsense. The FBI isn't out to get Trump, anymore than they were out to get Hillary. Hard to manipulate things when there is no bias route taken. No one is trying to disarm Americans, as the government could crush any militia that opposed it anyway. Besides, if anything government is conforming to arm manufacturing money interests, and have made guns more easy to obtain. Money, power, and cushy jobs keep the government in place. The government is already in control anyway, so what would they takeover? Congress sits on their duff half the time, and get paid, and thoroughly insured for nothing. They can even vote to raise their own pay, so what more control is needed.
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I don’t disagree with some of these this.

The government trying to confiscate weapons for nefarious reasons is an obvious conspiracy theory, for example. That said, the radical left would very much like to have them confiscated lol.

But every American should be wary of government corruption—-especially, when innocent citizens could be the target.

Currently, there is a commonly held perception that there is an element with the government that is out to remove a duly elected president. And that perception is not the fault of the rightwing media. It has been demonstrated that people in the upper levels of the FBI, at the very minimum, were allowing their rank partisanship to affect their work.

Two of them were forced from their jobs on account of it.

At the worst, they were *conspiring* to remove a sitting president through nefarious means. And the third party in their alleged scheme was just recently fired at the recommendation of the agency’s own ethics committee.

You can’t fault people for believing in a Deep State when the State is acting Deep State-ish.
 
archives said:
Interesting part of the poll the poster left out;

"Americans of black, Latino and Asian backgrounds (35%) are more likely than non-Hispanic whites (23%) to say that the Deep State definitely exists. Non-whites (60%) are also somewhat more likely than whites (50%) to worry about the government monitoring them and similarly more likely to believe there is already widespread government monitoring of U.S. citizens (60% and 49%, respectively). More non-whites (35%) than whites (23%) say that such monitoring is rarely or never justified."
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Lefty Great White Savior FAIL.
 
Rad Dude said:
A majority of the American public believe that the U.S. government engages in widespread monitoring of its own citizens and worry that the U.S. government could be invading their own privacy. The Monmouth University Poll also finds a large bipartisan majority who feel that national policy is being manipulated or directed by a “Deep State” of unelected government officials.

“This is a worrisome finding. The strength of our government relies on public faith in protecting our freedoms, which is not particularly robust. And it’s not a Democratic or Republican issue. These concerns span the political spectrum,”

...

“We usually expect opinions on the operation of government to shift depending on which party is in charge. But there’s an ominous feeling by Democrats and Republicans alike that a ‘Deep State’ of unelected operatives are pulling the levers of power,” said Murray.

..

Few Americans (13%) are very familiar with the term “Deep State;” another 24% are somewhat familiar, while 63% say they are not familiar with this term. However, when the term is described as a group of unelected government and military officials who secretly manipulate or direct national policy, nearly 3-in-4 (74%) say they believe this type of apparatus exists in Washington. This includes 27% who say it definitely exists and 47% who say it probably exists.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_031918/

Most americans now agree, THE DEEP STATE IS REAL
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I thought you believed the majority of people were stupid? Did you change your mind? You now agree with the majority of the people.
 
I’ve always believed lobbyist and money have controlled politicians. I guess calling it “the deep state” makes it sound more sinister.
 
Jade Dragon said:
I don't doubt there's corruption, and manipulation, but all this rightist nonsense, over personal ideals, and fears is nonsense. The FBI isn't out to get Trump, anymore than they were out to get Hillary. Hard to manipulate things when there is no bias route taken. No one is trying to disarm Americans, as the government could crush any militia that opposed it anyway. Besides, if anything government is conforming to arm manufacturing money interests, and have made guns more easy to obtain. Money, power, and cushy jobs keep the government in place.

The government is already in control anyway, so what would they takeover?

Congress sits on their duff half the time, and get paid, and thoroughly insured for nothing. They can even vote to raise their own pay, so what more control is needed.
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Great post.........
 
Hard to sleep at night when you know the deep state is coming for you. This is not new. Teddy Roosevelt was very concerned with the deep state. But it was the outsize money and power of the wealthy. That is what e have arrived at now. https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black...sevelts-attack-excessive-concentration-wealth

Few people even know about the bankers plot when the wealthy and bankers tried to overthrow FDR. Talk about information suppression and cover up. There it was.
 
What is scary is you believe that shit. Nunes is deep state. He snuck over to the whitehouse in the middle of the night to give them secret information on the house investigation. He got booted off for awhile over that. He was doing his best to screw up the investigation during its whole time. It was a show, with the ending already written.
 
But not only did Rosenstein discuss with Trump the firing of Comey, he went back to Justice to produce the document to justify what the president had decided to do.

How can Rosenstein oversee Mueller’s investigation into the firing of James Comey when he was a witness to and a participant in the firing of James Comey?

The Roman poet Juvenal’s question comes to mind. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchmen?

Consider where we are. Mueller is investigating alleged Trump collusion with Russia, and the White House is all lawyered up.

The House intel committee is investigating Clinton-FBI collusion to defeat Trump and break his presidency. FBI Inspector General Michael Horowitz is looking into whether the fix was in to give Hillary a pass in the probe of her email server.

Comey has been fired, his deputy McCabe removed, his chief investigator Strzok ousted by Mueller for bigoted anti-Trump behavior, alongside his FBI paramour, Page. Bruce Ohr has been demoted for colluding with Steele, who was caught lying to the FBI and fired, and for his wife’s role in Fusion GPS, which was being paid to dig up dirt on Trump for Clinton’s campaign.

If Americans are losing confidence in the FBI, whose fault is that? Is there not evidence that a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI – Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them – decided the republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?

To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.
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