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Putin orders troops into eastern Ukraine

• Russia's President Vladimir Putin recognises two breakaway regions of Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists
• Under decrees signed by Putin, Russian troops will perform what were described as "peacekeeping functions" in Luhansk and Donetsk, raising fears troops could soon cross the border
• In a televised speech, Putin said Ukraine had no history of being a true nation
• UK PM Boris Johnson says the move will violate Ukraine's sovereignty and is a "very dark sign"
• The head of the Nato defensive alliance, meanwhile, said it would erode peace efforts in the region
• Several airlines including Air France and Lufthansa have suspended flights to Ukraine over invasion fears

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795
 
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dukkha said:
think of it as a chess game. Putin just took a couple of Ukraine's pawns off the board.
can he pick up a rook or a bishop as well> a major piece like on Odessa?
Or will he checkmate Kviv itself? and "win" Ukraine =game over

The pawns are gone ( Crimea and LDNR are only 14% of Ukraine territory combined)
now it's the west's move -see what they do -then respond further
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Maybe one of your neighbors wants you back yard, I am sure you would tell them , sure
 
And Vlad gets everything he wanted for Christmas.
- destabilization of the west
- no mo nato
- a foot in Ukraine via "self-determination"
- jacked up energy prices (especially nice for the Kremlin's coffers about now)
- public fury over inflation (this only exasperates Biden's dumbf*ckery)
 
Celticguy said:
And Vlad gets everything he wanted for Christmas.
- destabilization of the west
- no mo nato
- a foot in Ukraine via "self-determination"
- jacked up energy prices (especially nice for the Kremlin's coffers about now)
- public fury over inflation (this only exasperates Biden's dumbf*ckery)
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It is a work in progress but the West is dying,.,,,as the Empire is working to highlight.
 
Legion said:
Putin sends tanks into Ukraine

President Putin ordered Russian troops and tanks into Ukraine’s breakaway eastern regions last night under the guise of a peacekeeping force after signing decrees recognizing their independence.

The order sending peacekeeping missions into Donetsk and Luhansk amounts to a de facto military invasion of the eastern corner of Ukraine.

Before the order Putin gave a televised national address in which he denounced Nato encroachment on Russia’s borders and vowed to defend the two regions.

Russia has controlled Donetsk and Luhansk via proxies since it fomented an armed separatist movement there, having annexed Crimea in 2014.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-sends-tanks-into-ukraine-75dj973v8
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huh? maybe if you stretch the logic
 
Primavera said:
Do you really think Putin will stop there? Ukraine is rich pickings for him, he wants control of the gas pipelines, gasfields, oil, coal, manganese and uranium as well.

What Are The Major Natural Resources Of Ukraine?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-major-natural-resources-of-ukraine.html
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I was quoting the resident racist -not you.
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what he wants and what he would risk by more then just nibbling the edge of the cookie
are 2 different things. He's already got an extractive economy -so he would need a willing population to produce while under a Russian flag. and not become an organized resistance

It's fine to pick off a couple pawns, but to go deep into enemy territory and hold it is an entirely different risk
 
Primavera said:
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Putin orders troops into eastern Ukraine

• Russia's President Vladimir Putin recognises two breakaway regions of Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists
• Under decrees signed by Putin, Russian troops will perform what were described as "peacekeeping functions" in Luhansk and Donetsk, raising fears troops could soon cross the border
• In a televised speech, Putin said Ukraine had no history of being a true nation
• UK PM Boris Johnson says the move will violate Ukraine's sovereignty and is a "very dark sign"
• The head of the Nato defensive alliance, meanwhile, said it would erode peace efforts in the region
• Several airlines including Air France and Lufthansa have suspended flights to Ukraine over invasion fears

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60454795
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Looks like Putin is going to invade the Sudetenland.

I still wish that when the Nazis made claims that Czechoslovakia was harming their Kraut population, the Czechs and Slovaks had gone ahead with a terror campaign to make the reality live up to the rhetoric.
 
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dukkha said:
I was quoting the resident racist -not you.
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what he wants and what he would risk by more then just nibbling the edge of the cookie
are 2 different things. He's already got an extractive economy -so he would need a willing population to produce while under a Russian flag. and not become an organized resistance

It's fine to pick off a couple pawns, but to go deep into enemy territory and hold it is an entirely different risk
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I know you were talking about Guano, don't fret. If this succeeds what to stop him trying the same tactic in Estonia, Latvia or even Finland? I fully expect Finland to apply for membership of NATO as a result of this. It's looks like Trump was 100% right to embarrass the likes of rich countries like Germany to pay their fair whack.
 
Primavera said:
I know you were talking about Guano, don't fret. If this succeeds what to stop him trying the same tactic in Estonia, Latvia or even Finland? I fully expect Finland to apply for membership of NATO as a result of this. It's looks like Trump was 100% right to embarrass the likes of rich countries like Germany to pay their fair whack.
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Doucheland should always be embarrassed as a general rule.
 
Primavera said:
I know you were talking about Guano, don't fret. If this succeeds what to stop him trying the same tactic in Finland, Estonia or Latvia? I fully expect Finland to apply for membership of NATO as a result of this. It's looks like Trump was 100% right to embarrass the likes of rich countries like Germany to pay their fair whack.
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C'mon. Rolling into Ukraine
(if it gets past the Dnieper - or along the Black Sea coast with a Russian navy strong in the black sea)
is a damn tough lift as it is.

We are going to have to see what he does in Ukraine before even contemplating anything else.
The speech was bellicose jingoism - but it think a lot of that was just bloviating - he's said the same before
Talking Little Russia is a lot different then expanding Russia
 
Gin Saké said:
Looks like Putin is going to invade the Sudetenland.

I still wish that when the Nazis made claims that Czechoslovakia was harming their Kraut population, the Csechs and Slovaks had gone ahead with a terror campaign to make the reality live up to the rhetoric.
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When the Allies were carving up Europe in 1945, it was by no means certain that Austria stayed out of Stalin's reign of terror.
 
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dukkha said:
C'mon. Rolling into Ukraine
(if it gets past the Dnieper - or along the Black Sea coast with a Russian navy strong in the black sea)
is a damn tough lift as it is.

We are going to have to see what he does in Ukraine before even contemplating anything else.
The speech was bellicose jingoism - but it think a lot of that was just bloviating - he's said the same before
Talking Little Russia is a lot different then expanding Russia
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Yes I know it's a big country, bigger than Germany and France combined. However I fully expect Putin to take more, if not Kiev, then maybe Odessa?
 
dukkha said:
true. but but's going to lead to an insertion of Russian troops to "protect" the populace
or it might be at the request of the newly recognized states of LDNR to push Ukraine national troops out of their new sovereign entity
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Yes- but as NATO is anxious to impose their sanctions BEFORE any invasion I just thought I'd point out the legal aspect and the NATO hypocrisy . Recognition is NOT invasion.
 
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