rather a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics

anatta said:
trump.

awesome..American politics are poisoned by Russiaphobia / Mueller / "da Russian".

Trump takes the difficult road eschewing political gain for peace :thumbsup:
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Oh the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class will have its wars, we're bombing 8 nations currently, dropping bombs every 12 minutes. Our economic system depends upon it.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Oh the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class will have its wars, we're bombing 8 nations currently, dropping bombs every 12 minutes. Our economic system depends upon it.
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100% correct. We sell arms to other nations. Bet you cannot guess who sold the most since WW2......
 
countryboy said:
Where were libs in 2012 when Obama was busted on a hot mike telling Russian Prime Minister Medvedev, he would have "more flexibility" after his reelection? Is that not textbook "collusion"? This feigned outrage is soooo transparent.
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The same place they were when they said we should not believe our intelligence agencies when Bush was President, but now declare we must believe what they tell us because they don't like Trump; hypocrite land. :rofl2:
 
moon said:
Trump was elected to smash the establishment. That's what he promised. He's making the most of this opportunity- and he'll cash in if Putin gives him something in return- which he almost certainly will.
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Nordberg said:
Of course leftys were offended and critical about that. You think they weren't because you rightys are such good unquestioning little followers. Left bitched plenty about Obamas policies and his staff selections. We bitched about hiss cabinet picks too. Can youi imagine such a thing?
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Sailor said:
100% correct. We sell arms to other nations. Bet you cannot guess who sold the most since WW2......
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A recent list of who we have armed is illustrative of the madness:

Saddam
Osama
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
Israeli genocide in Gaza
Wahabist Islamist Saudi genocide in Yemen including internationaly illegal cluster bombs known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field
Nuclear reactors to North Korea a mere two years before placing them on an "axis of evil" list
 
Fentoine Lum said:
A recent list of who we have armed is illustrative of the madness:

Saddam
Osama
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
Israel
Wahabist Islamist Saudi genocide in Yemen including internationaly illegal cluster bombs known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field
Nuclear reactors to North Korea a mere two years before placing them on an "axis of evil" list
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Arms sales have been a big part of our GDP for quite a while now. We sell to a lot more than are on that list. Some like Israel do not need to by from us. They make some of the best arms in the world.
 
Nordberg said:
Of course leftys were offended and critical about that. You think they weren't because you rightys are such good unquestioning little followers. Left bitched plenty about Obamas policies and his staff selections. We bitched about hiss cabinet picks too. Can youi imagine such a thing?
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:bs:
 
Sailor said:
Arms sales have been a big part of our GDP for quite a while now. We sell to a lot more than are on that list. Some like Israel do not need to by from us. They make some of the best arms in the world.
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Oh sure, and we'll sell to various factions of a given conflict. Together, the US and Israel are great promoters of violence, war and conflict both across the planet and within their own societies. In this we are certainly allies. The Israelis provide population control/subjugation training to our militarized police departments as well as in population surveillance. Our own power structure foresees a time when they will need to Palestinianize us as more and more societal wealth is extracted, concentrated and redistributed to the ruling corporate class.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Oh sure, and we'll sell to various factions of a given conflict. Together, the US and Israel are great promoters of violence, war and conflict both across the planet and within their own societies. In this we are certainly allies. The Israelis provide population control/subjugation training to our militarized police departments as well as in population surveillance. Our own power structure foresees a time when they will need to Palestinianize us as more and more societal wealth is extracted, concentrated and redistributed to the ruling corporate class.
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Hey. Its good for business. Top dollar to ship arms.
 
This is not a debate.
Nobody seeks enlightenment here.

This is a two-way venting.

You could show Trumpanzees a video of Putin riding the Orange baboon like a mule and they'll say that it's CGI.
They will not criticize Trump because they match his moral decadence and decrepitude in every possible way.
They just don't have equal means of acting upon their depraved inclinations. They do the "best" that they can with what they've got.

The Trumpanzees aren't here for us to share discourse with them.
There here for us to either pity or ridicule, depending on our mood.
 
anatta said:
trump.

awesome..American politics are poisoned by Russiaphobia / Mueller / "da Russian".

Trump takes the difficult road eschewing political gain for peace :thumbsup:
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Dude, the cover is BLOWN.

"In pursuit of peace" ???

The entire world knows without question what this is about .. and it isn't about peace.

... but you hold onto to that. :0)
 
NiftyNiblick said:
This is not a debate.
Nobody seeks enlightenment here.

This is a two-way venting.

You could show Trumpanzees a video of Putin riding the Orange baboon like a mule and they'll say that it's CGI.
They will not criticize Trump because they match his moral decadence and decrepitude in every possible way.
They just don't have equal means of acting upon their depraved inclinations. They do the "best" that they can with what they've got.

The Trumpanzees aren't here for us to share discourse with them.
There here for us to either pity or ridicule, depending on our mood.
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APPLAUSE :hand::hand:

... been sayin' it, been sayin' it.
 
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