Russia Scandal: Did Hillary Clinton Seed FBI's Trump Investigation?

Nomad said:
Oh, you mean like the bullshit "Hillary's email/homebrew server" nonsense that was intended to "inflict maximal damage on a political opponent", hence "there’s the risk of ‘embellishment’, for lack of a better word lol"?

Like that?

That wasn’t one of your better answers, hypocrite.
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Did they lie to the FISA court to spy on Hillary when I wasn’t looking?
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
You didn't answer my post (message#9) anatta.
>> Downer told the FBI nothing. He told his government what he had heard from Papadopoulos. Later, when hacked DNC emails started to be leaked, the Australian government informed the US authorities.

The article in the OP also completely ignores this:

"British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia:
GCHQ is said to have alerted US agencies after becoming aware of contacts in 2015"
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...m-links-russia

GCHQ, the British signals intel agency, has been called the “principal whistleblower” in all this. <<

The upshot is, the article you quoted in the OP is carefully-crafted garbage.
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But the fact Downer put any credence into bar talk is he problem , whomever relayed the info to the US.

"Page not found" on your link.."Trumps' links with Russia" though...so what?
dealing with Russians is not a crime ( or at least was not one back then before Russiaphobia)
 
Darth Omar said:
Since it’s intended to inflict maximal damage on a political opponent there’s the risk of ‘embellishment’, for lack of a better word lol?

That wasn’t one of your better questions.
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And that is why we have an investigation, to sort out what is true and what is embellished, right?
 
Can you imagine all the shit the Clintons would have had to make good on for the Foundation donations? Thank you President Trump for keeping us from that shit show


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anatta said:
why would I write otherwise?
Putin is Putin. He's a Russian nationalist who sees himself as a modern Peter the Great.
He's former KGB, and headed the FSU..he was desperatly needed by Russia after the drunken Yelsin,and impotent Gorbachev regime.

I take him at face value. I admire some of his gambits, but his arrogance cost him Russian sanctions.

What I really want is an END TO THIS RUSSIAPHOBIA -and get back on track with a realpolitik relationship-
that benefits US/EUROPE/the WEST all
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So you want Trump impeached. Good.
 
noise said:
"Page not found" on your link
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Sorry about that, noise. I copied one of the abbreviated links that come up here. This is the full link (tested):
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

Extracts:

Both US and UK intelligence sources acknowledge that GCHQ played an early, prominent role in kickstarting the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation, which began in late July 2016. One source called the British eavesdropping agency the “principal whistleblower”.

“It looks like the US agencies were asleep,” the source added. “The European agencies were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’

“The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’”


Added: I just want to mention here that GCHQ has no known connection to the Clinton foundation. :)
 
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SOmad said:
Why would the Clintons, with a combined net worth of over $125 million,
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And yet, the Clinton's claim they were broke when they left the White House. Curious.

But willful idiots on the left don't think anything about that part. It's all about the FAKE narrative that Trump colluded with the Russians to CHEAT poor Hillary out of her divined Presidency...one the media suggested was inevitable.

You people are dumber than a sack of rocks.
 
JarredHead said:
So somebody please explain to me why it matters if the information came from Hillary Clinton’s opposition research?
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So this dumbfuck thinks that talking to Russians was bad for Trump, but it was just fine to pay for a massive dossier full of lies on Trump which was also used to instigate spying on, and assigning a special counsel to investigate.

You're not merely stupid and dishonest, but incredibly hypocritical to even make such statements.
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Tranquillus in Exile said:
Sorry about that, noise. I copied one of the abbreviated links that come up here. This is the full link (tested):
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

Extracts:

Both US and UK intelligence sources acknowledge that GCHQ played an early, prominent role in kickstarting the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation, which began in late July 2016. One source called the British eavesdropping agency the “principal whistleblower”.

“It looks like the US agencies were asleep,” the source added. “The European agencies were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’

“The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’”
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And yet, there was nothing illegal and talking to Russians is not a crime. But, you idiots on the left think that a dossier filled with lies that was bought and paid for by the DNC using Russian sources was just fine.

STFU already you whiny retarded hypocrites.
 
Truth Detector said:
And yet, there was nothing illegal and talking to Russians is not a crime. But, you idiots on the left think that a dossier filled with lies that was bought and paid for by the DNC using Russian sources was just fine.

STFU already you whiny retarded hypocrites.
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Good grief man. Don't you know by now that the FBI was investigating Manafort and Page before Trump ever announced his run for office? They were also looking into the Bank of Cyprus and money laundering at Trump Tower.
 
Truth Detector said:
Wrong; we have an investigation that had no crime started on a FALSE narrative. Dunce.
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Nothing in the Steele dossier has been disproved, by anyone.

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Frankly, it is a bit hilarious that the Clintons spent $1.2 billion on her campaign (what she reported to the FEC-—not the millions they dropped secretly)’ they had a sitting president, the FBI and the DOJ at her command, helping her out with top level intel-—PLUS the rest of the Swamp things on-board. 10 billion worth of free propaganda press, too.



And she still couldn’t win.
 
kudzuforBrains said:
Good grief man. Don't you know by now that the FBI was investigating Manafort and Page before Trump ever announced his run for office? They were also looking into the Bank of Cyprus and money laundering at Trump Tower.
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Good grief shit-for-brains; don't you know it has NOTHING to do with Trump or his campaign?
 
Truth Detector said:
And yet, there was nothing illegal and talking to Russians is not a crime. But, you idiots on the left think that a dossier filled with lies that was bought and paid for by the DNC using Russian sources was just fine.

STFU already you whiny retarded hypocrites.
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Whether it was legal or not depends on what was said. It certainly needed to be investigated. And THAT was what kick-started the FBI investigation, not some Deep State conspiracy to stop Trump. If anything, the US agencies were slow off the mark.

Why don't you go defecate on some truth?
 
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