Russia Scandal: Did Hillary Clinton Seed FBI's Trump Investigation?

Teflon Don said:
Actually they did. It was a lie of omission. They did not tell the whole truth about where the funding for the Steele Dossier came from.

Why withhold that information? Why not be fully transparent.

It’s ok. I will understand if you can’t answer.
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They knew where the funding came from and that it began with Paul Singer, GOP Hedgefund billionaire.
 
Truth Defecator said:
How does Trump have ANYTHING to do with the FALSE narrative that Russians interfered with our elections? Even Obama said this is not possible.
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Are you STILL saying there was no Russian interference in the election? You should check in and get reprogrammed. May need a hardware overhaul, too. Or better still, switched off for good.
 
Teflon Don said:
Actually they did. It was a lie of omission. They did not tell the whole truth about where the funding for the Steele Dossier came from.

Why withhold that information? Why not be fully transparent.

It’s ok. I will understand if you can’t answer.
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That's just the right's go-to line of bullshit.

Everyone knows that the FBI gave FISA all the info required.

Keep on lying through your teeth though.

Your desperation is fun to watch.
 
Nomad said:
That's just the right's go-to line of bullshit.

Everyone knows that the FBI gave FISA all the info required.

Keep on lying through your teeth though.

Your desperation is fun to watch.
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No they didn't. They withheld who actually paid for the dossier and only mentioned that it was "political". Even Schiff admits that
 
hvilleherb said:
Hillary hired Steele to do the dossier, Obama illegally wiretapped Trump.

Yes, it's a witch hunt.
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Neither is true.. Hillary had no contact with Steele.. He was hired by a lawfirm representing the DNC.. and Trump is an unmitigated fool.. Obama NEVER wiretapped Trump.. The FBI was monitoring Manafort and Cater Page and communication with the Russian Embassy before Trump announced his candidacy..

Trump is so impossibly stupid.. and you lap it up.
 
Teflon Don said:
No they didn't. They withheld who actually paid for the dossier and only mentioned that it was "political". Even Schiff admits that
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It was REPUBLICANS who initially hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump to begin with, so by your own standards, the FBI would've had to mention that as well.

But since their synopsis did not require that level of detail in order to give the court a thorough and complete picture of the evidence they had, which justified the warrant, it's a moot point anyway. Saying that the dossier's origins were political in nature covered both parties involvement without wasting the court's time with unnecessary detail.

But you just keep on flailing, though.

It's fun to watch.
 
kudzu said:
Neither is true.. Hillary had no contact with Steele.. He was hired by a lawfirm representing the DNC.. and Trump is an unmitigated fool.. Obama NEVER wiretapped Trump.. The FBI was monitoring Manafort and Cater Page and communication with the Russian Embassy before Trump announced his candidacy..

Trump is so impossibly stupid.. and you lap it up.
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"Hillary had no contact with Steele.. He was hired by a lawfirm representing the DNC"...

And even that was after the Republicans had already hired him.

These Repukes lie constantly because it's all they've got.

The truth is not their friend.
 
Nomad said:
It was REPUBLICANS who initially hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump to begin with, so by your own standards, the FBI would've had to mention that as well.

But since their synopsis did not require that level of detail in order to give the court a thorough and complete picture of the evidence they had, which justified the warrant, it's a moot point anyway. Saying that the dossier's origins were political in nature covered both parties involvement without wasting the court's time with unnecessary detail.

But you just keep on flailing, though.

It's fun to watch.
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So you don't think it would matter to a FISA judge whether the information was paid for by Hillary Clinton vs Club For Growth?

And yes, I believe that the FBI should have told them ALL of the origins of the Steele Dossier including the GOP.

You are back pedaling and I understand. Because once it is shown that the FBI took unprecedented actions with this FISA warrant, your entire Mueller investigation comes crumbling down. Manafort goes free. Flynn goes free. It is just that simple

And if you can't take Trump out via impeachment, you know you can't beat him at the ballot box in 2020. You know that deep down.
 
hvilleherb said:
Hillary hired Steele to do the dossier, Obama illegally wiretapped Trump.
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Trump Offers No Apology for Claim on British Spying

MARCH 17, 2017
President Trump provoked a rare public dispute with America’s closest ally on Friday after his White House aired an explosive and unsubstantiated claim that Britain’s spy agency had secretly eavesdropped on him at the behest of President Barack Obama during last year’s campaign.

Livid British officials adamantly denied the allegation and secured promises from senior White House officials never to repeat it. But a defiant Mr. Trump refused to back down, making clear that the White House had nothing to retract or apologize for because his spokesman had simply repeated an assertion made by a Fox News commentator.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/world/europe/trump-britain-obama-wiretap-gchq.html

Fox axes ‘expert’ who said GCHQ spied on Trump

MARCH 22, 2017
The legal expert who claimed British spies bugged Donald Trump during his election campaign has been dropped by Fox News.

Retired judge Andrew Napolitano’s allegation that GCHQ helped former president Barack Obama wiretap Trump Tower sparked a diplomatic row last week when it was repeated by White House press secretary Sean Spicer. Mr Trump also described Mr Napolitano as a ‘very talented legal mind

https://www.metro.news/fox-axes-expert-who-said-gchq-spied-on-trump/544985/

LOL. It takes a stable genius to recognize a very talented mind.
 
Teflon Don said:
So you don't think it would matter to a FISA judge whether the information was paid for by Hillary Clinton vs Club For Growth?

And yes, I believe that the FBI should have told them ALL of the origins of the Steele Dossier including the GOP.

You are back pedaling and I understand. Because once it is shown that the FBI took unprecedented actions with this FISA warrant, your entire Mueller investigation comes crumbling down. Manafort goes free. Flynn goes free. It is just that simple

And if you can't take Trump out via impeachment, you know you can't beat him at the ballot box in 2020. You know that deep down.
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So, you're just going to keep on ignoring the fact that the Republicans were the ones who initially hired Steele and paid him to start digging up dirt on Trump?

As has been explained to you trollbots over and over to no avail, the Steele Dossier was only one small piece of a larger group of evidence the FBI had amassed in order to justify getting a warrant. They probably could've excluded the dossier completely and still gotten the application approved.

As long as they made sure the judge understood that the dossier was initially compiled for political purposes, I doubt it would have made any difference who specifically paid for it. A federal judge is assumed to be savvy and intelligent enough to understand that by "political" they meant Trump's political opponents. People who were looking to discredit and politically damage him.

And also that the political reason for commissioning it does not mean the information found is not true.

You just keep on twisting and squirming though.

Your desperation is amusing.
 
Nomad said:
"Hillary had no contact with Steele.. He was hired by a lawfirm representing the DNC"...

And even that was after the Republicans had already hired him.

These Repukes lie constantly because it's all they've got.

The truth is not their friend.
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Do you think they lie deliberately, or do you think they really don't know the facts? Fox News is all about their hard right audience..
 
kudzu said:
Do you think they lie deliberately, or do you think they really don't know the facts? Fox News is all about their hard right audience..
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It's gotta be deliberate. As much as I hate to give them credit for having enough brains to know the truth, nobody could be as constantly wrong on the facts of just about everything as they are, through mere stupidity alone.

There has to be a very large portion of nefarious, dishonest and deceptive intent involved.

It's just their nature.
 
Teflon Don said:
So you don't think it would matter to a FISA judge whether the information was paid for by Hillary Clinton vs Club For Growth?

And yes, I believe that the FBI should have told them ALL of the origins of the Steele Dossier including the GOP.

You are back pedaling and I understand. Because once it is shown that the FBI took unprecedented actions with this FISA warrant, your entire Mueller investigation comes crumbling down. Manafort goes free. Flynn goes free. It is just that simple

And if you can't take Trump out via impeachment, you know you can't beat him at the ballot box in 2020. You know that deep down.
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Are you listening? The FISA warrants were in place before Trump ever announced his candidacy .. Manafort, Page were under surveillance by 2014-2015 .. and Trump's Russian money laundering has been on the radar since 2006.
 
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