I am not going to defend all the revolutionaries. Some were terrible, but some were better. But Gaddafi was a terrorist tyrant. Your defense of him just makes you look bad.
Russian interference in 2020 fails miserably
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I am not going to defend all the revolutionaries. Some were terrible, but some were better. But Gaddafi was a terrorist tyrant. Your defense of him just makes you look bad.
Did he turn himself over for trial?
Matt Dillon
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You're wrong about several things there.
WTF do you mean "some were better" back up that BS..
The NTC whispered sweet promises of "democracy" in Hillary ear, then got into power and started the militas to enforce their "democracy"
Soon militias run by warlords were the only functional authority in the country. how is this "better?"
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I'm not defending Qadaffi - that is your simplistic POV
I am excoriating NATO but most especially Hillary and Rice. it was a bad decision to war against Qadaffi that led to a decade of bad outcomes
you need to do some serious research if you are going to discuss this further -your knowledge base is utterly lacking
Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/28/hillary-clinton-undercut-on-libya-war-by-pentagon-/
The tapes, reviewed by The Washington Times and authenticated by the participants, chronicle U.S. officials’ unfiltered conversations with Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s son and a top Libyan leader, including criticisms that Mrs. Clinton had developed tunnel vision and led the U.S. into an unnecessary war without adequately weighing the intelligence community’s concerns.
It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report,” Gadhafi said in a May 2011 phone call to Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, an Ohio Democrat serving at the time. “Libyan airplanes bombing demonstrators, Libyan airplanes bombing districts in Tripoli, Libyan army killed thousands, etc., etc., and now the whole world found there is no single evidence that such things happened in Libya.”
Seif Gadhafi also warned that many of the U.S.-supported armed rebels were “not freedom fighters” but rather jihadists whom he described as “gangsters and terrorists.”
“And now you have NATO supporting them with ships, with airplanes, helicopters, arms, training, communication,” he said in one recorded conversation with U.S. officials. “We ask the American government send a fact-finding mission to Libya. I want you to see everything with your own eyes.”
The tapes show that the Pentagon’s senior uniformed leadership and a congressman from Mrs. Clinton’s own party conveyed sentiments to the Libyan regime that undercut or conflicted with the secretary of state’s own message at the time.
And yet you cannot name one? It is a fact that Pan Am 103 was bombed decades before ISIS existed. Your claims ISIS was behind it are bizarre.
The fact is that Gaddafi spent 50 years killing anyone who wanted a liberal democracy for Libya, so there are not many better people left. He did spare the worst in Libya, because he could make deals with them.
not even that is cut and dry. There was something i read about the marking on the bomb, and the prosecutors case was laughable. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...awed-in-lockerbie-bombing-trial-idUSKBN2841DD
But Qadaffi did take responsibility, paid up, and became a partner wih the SAS and CIA on anti-terrorism efforts.
He even gave up his nukes and was in good standing.
Then we killed him by a drone strike that forced him out of the convoy into the culvert where the NTC jackals ripped him to shreds. over a big lie of bombing civilains
Are you proud of any of this?? it's horrific and and Hillary says "we came we saw he died?"
weak sauce. and so much for your prior claim "some were better"
all you care about is "democracy" -the same dumb shit the NTC fed Hillary - backed by a bunch of terrorists instead
You are, and the fact that you are trying to deny it gives me some hope. You are actually slightly ashamed of your support of a terrorist.
Here is my question, if Bin Laden had lived, how long would it have taken for you to support him?
And remember, Democrats disagreed with Bush on many things, but we never took Bin Laden's side over Bush's.
So a lifelong anti-American terrorist says "many" of the rebels are "not freedom fighters"... I actually agree with him. He is right there. Many are not freedom fighters. Most of the freedom fighters were killed by his father over the 50 years.
But even a lifelong anti-American terrorist cannot bring himself to say they are all not freedom fighters.
Actually, it is that cut and dry. There is no way ISIS could travel back in time, and place a bomb on Pan Am 103. Nor did they kill Lincoln.
reagansghost
eternal
proxies? like the Internet Reseach Agency was supposed to be -Mueller called them a "private entity"
but we're just supposed to swallow "proxies?"
I guess that's like the mysterious "Russian cutout" that passed the hacking to WIKI.
Funny how Mueller never tried to interview Assange about that either (Assange denied it)
it's the same playbook:
we cant prove anything, so we'll just say "DA RUSSIANS
and the rubes will swallow it hook line and sinker
oh what a surprise comrade annie, another pro Russian rant
why don't they just fire you?
how did the Chinese and Iranian interference to get Biden elected go
No I dont GAF about Qadaffi -other then the fact he CLEARLY was better for the Libyan people
then the ensuing chaos and terrorist infected state it became after him. ISIS did establish itself there as well
Also we lost a partner on anti-terrorism -which you cant get get thru your head because you are stuck on pre-90's Qadaffi
What I am vehemently against is interventionism. Iraq, Afghan, and Libya all were disasters because of our penchant for regime change.
That big reason I supported Trump as well - he understood our mindless interventionism cost us untold trillions and gallons of blood and made the situation worse or the same despite all that.
I hope Biden was paying attention, but the IC and globalists will be trying to get us involved in more of the same
not our country, not our business. same as Russia or China
Let them run their own countries -we got plenty of our own problems to solve
not at all what I was saying
reagansghost
eternal
you didn't work hard enough before those 2020 elections hon, max fail
wtf are you yammering on, dead man?
Destruction in Benghazi, Libya, after fighting between pro-government forces and an alliance of former anti-Qaddafi rebels linked to the extremist group Ansar al-Sharia.
A New Libya, With ‘Very Little Time Left’
Feb. 27, 2016 NYTIMES
The fall of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi seemed to vindicate Hillary Clinton. Then militias refused to disarm, neighbors fanned a civil war, and the Islamic State found refuge.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/libya-isis-hillary-clinton.html
A New Libya, With ‘Very Little Time Left’
Feb. 27, 2016 NYTIMES
The fall of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi seemed to vindicate Hillary Clinton. Then militias refused to disarm, neighbors fanned a civil war, and the Islamic State found refuge.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/libya-isis-hillary-clinton.html