Russian Troll Talks

anatta said:
The dossier was a critical document to justify a FISA warrant against Mr. Page and this DOJ memo clearly indicates that the reliability of the dossier was completely destroyed after the interview with the primary sub-source in January 2017. Those who knew or should have known of this development and
continued to pursue a FISA warrant against Mr. Page anyway are in deep legal jeopardy in my view.

“Secondly, the comments of Peter Strzok regarding the February 14 New York Times article are devastating in that they are an admission that there was no reliable evidence that anyone from the Trump Campaign was working with Russian Intelligence Agencies in any form.
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pr...ly-undercut-steele-dossier-page-fisa-warrants
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More deflection, distracting, and lying.
 
We trolls want to thank Fox, OAN, Breitbart, Evangelicals, and the numerous election year trolls who are working hard to elect Donald John Trump so we can continue the diminishing of the American republic and its democratic institutions. Keep up the fight so America too will be an authoritarian state, Pres Trump and many republicans are doing their best, but they need our help too. How about the postmaster general, can we give a big cheer. Who needs actual mail when we trolls create information and complex distortions of facts. And AG Barr is fantastic, he'd make day night and the republicans would cheer. Exculpatory explanations and finessed finger pointing is a great great talent. Barr gets an 'A' plus.

We also want to make sure our faithful trolls stay away from news sources that are not in line with our mission. But we want to share one piece that demonstrates how strong our work has become and so prevalent worldwide. Keep up the divisive chatter and the confused reporting and we'll have another four years of mayhem and the further breakdown of American power and prestige.

The power of our work and chatter.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/15/the-tragic-romance-of-the-middle-aged-western-liberal/

Make sure this is not distributed.

'US Senate report goes beyond Mueller to lay bare Trump campaign's Russia links'

'Bipartisan intelligence panel says that Russian who worked on Trump’s 2016 bid was career spy, amid a stunning range of contacts'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign


Editors Note: We cannot confirm the authenticity of this thread and comments, but we share them in the interests of thoughtful citizens of the world.
 
"Russian trolls are relying on Trump quotes and tweets for disinformation campaigns, saving them from making up the content themselves like they did in the 2016 elections"

Blin! American media give us some credit, true you elected him and he is a gift that keeps on giving. We trolls admit though we thought your nation smarter, more educated, we were wrong. Trump loves the uneducated and your nation appears full. Makes our job easier but a lack of education has its problems too as qanon demonstrates. Even we can't top their craziness. Oh well, back to work. Dasvidaniya

https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...mp-quotes-for-disinformation-campaigns-2020-9


"Never despair, but if you do, work on in despair." Edmund Burke


Editor Note: We cannot confirm authenticity of RT but it doesn't matter does it.
 
Russian Troll Supports Joe Biden

Why you must ask as we helped elect Donald Trump. I know my fans and foes alike are not going to believe this but we must speak up now before our work disappears. America and China are the only powers in the world aside from our Mother Russia. If America fails there is only China and I/we do not understand their culture or language. Europe is a harder area for our work as they are more educated, socialism and government are not negatives there. Of course my comrades work hard there too.

My family comes first and I must keep this job. Trump and the republicans - and of course the SCOTUS - will make America a weak nation, they do that now, so another four years of Trump could easily make America the joke it is becoming in the eyes of the world. We thought Trump would select competent, honest people to counter his dishonesty and ignorance but we were wrong. His administration is full of puppets and any who think are soon replaced. This can not go on. Look only at your COVID deaths under his incompetence. And a more far right wing conservative SCOTUS could make him president even after this term as they did in 2000. Enough said, America must wake up elect Joe so I can feed our deti. Think about it.

Please do not share these comments, they will be denied and made the work of a troll. Irony anyone.

Editors: Source unclear but enjoyable still.
 
midcan5 said:
Russian Troll Supports Joe Biden

Why you must ask as we helped elect Donald Trump. I know my fans and foes alike are not going to believe this but we must speak up now before our work disappears. America and China are the only powers in the world aside from our Mother Russia. If America fails there is only China and I/we do not understand their culture or language. Europe is a harder area for our work as they are more educated, socialism and government are not negatives there. Of course my comrades work hard there too.

My family comes first and I must keep this job. Trump and the republicans - and of course the SCOTUS - will make America a weak nation, they do that now, so another four years of Trump could easily make America the joke it is becoming in the eyes of the world. We thought Trump would select competent, honest people to counter his dishonesty and ignorance but we were wrong. His administration is full of puppets and any who think are soon replaced. This can not go on. Look only at your COVID deaths under his incompetence. And a more far right wing conservative SCOTUS could make him president even after this term as they did in 2000. Enough said, America must wake up elect Joe so I can feed our deti. Think about it.

Please do not share these comments, they will be denied and made the work of a troll. Irony anyone.

Editors: Source unclear but enjoyable still.
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“ FD: I don't have time to read quotes and reply, PM me if you think you have countered any of my comments or threads.”

The truth isn’t in you.
 
bye bye

Well readers it's over and the pardoning President is gone. Such a forgiving man. Will the republicans have the courage to impeach and rid their party of this doofus autocrat? That is a hard question for many Americans liked his plain talk and hate filled policies. Polices that appealed even to your so called religious folk. Religion is often a front as Nazi Germany so well demonstrated.

Where to next. Had America gone too far autocratic what would we trolls do. We puzzle when we read praise about 'the shining city on the hill'. You remember that guy right? He too criticized government and helped make it an enemy, but Americans know no history or they would know there is no 'deep state' but there is lots of 'dark money'. Pardons anyone!

But we must give your governmental system credit, it held up and lived up to the values of your founders even though they were obviously not all great patriots. But maybe that is why the system held, they had the foresight to build a democracy and establish laws and amendments that withstood the autocratic sentiment so deep among the uneducated masses that make up the base of most nations. They are our fans, keep that a secret. Udachi.

The 'Party of Lincoln' is now the 'Party of Pardons'. How telling is that.


Editors Note: Source unknown but interesting.


Troll comment, 'See we told you so, it is you now us. Keep this private please.' shhh....

"I don’t doubt that the Russian Federation employs hackers and PR people to influence public opinion and even election outcomes in other countries. So does the United States of America. But I am skeptical that anything the Russians did caused Donald Trump to be president."

https://www.juancole.com/2016/12/america-russia-yourself.html


"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
 
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I'm back....

Dobroe utro! Hope you all are well. As our favorite American president, Trump calls it 'fake news', ха-ха-ха!

'Read the declassified report on Russian interference in the U.S. election'

"The declassified 14-page report, which was released in January, concluded Russian President Vladi*mir Putin ordered the effort to undermine faith in the U.S. presidential election and helped Trump win the White House."

https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/d...russian-interference-in-the-us-election/2433/

'New Evidence Shows How Russia’s Election Interference Has Gotten More Brazen'

"The Kremlin-linked operation behind 2016 election meddling is using similar tactics for 2020, plus some new ones."

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...russias-election-interference-has-gotten-more


But then again does it matter?

http://midcan5.blogspot.com/2019/05/russian-troll-talks.html
 
midcan5 said:
Editor's note: Given the distractions and confusion caused by social media trolls we cannot confirm the authorship of this opinion piece, but we find its analysis interesting and at times insightful.

Zdravstvuj, I am one of those people you read about. We are phantoms to some who think knowledge is stable and real, we know better. First a little history. When the online comment and communications boards began most people had no idea of the power and influence they would eventually create. AOL chat was an early participant as was Yahoo, it was often childish and its format not open to propaganda and idea dissemination. Anyone remember Yahoo answers, it too was occasionally interesting, but the audience wasn't wide enough and we needed better directing and focusing, we needed to target an audience that would believe or even just doubt.

But something else was going on and had been going for a long time. Think Tanks (TT) formed a model for the control of information. RAND and Hudson began after WWII as bases of knowledge and policy, who could have predicated what they would eventually become? How thought itself could be transformed. Propaganda now had a platform, no longer just opinion, no longer on the sidelines, now the Think Tank confirmed whatever it was they were paid to confirm. Agnotology had a sponsor. Smoking bad? Global warming real? Doubt everything. Well not everything only those issues that challenged power.

Today think tanks are tools for the political, economic, and corporate interests - the interests of the monied classes. One could say mind control or people control. The writings and ideas of these TT are used for and by public relations and lobbying groups. Ask yourself, who has time today to read serious journalism when the mediasphere is everywhere and always on? Few do in the wider society. The next step was and is a marriage between Think Tanks and educational programs, breeding ground for idea control and the scholars and students who attended them. The Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, Heartland Institute, and the Federalist Society stand out. These institutions gave birth to ideologies, free market libertarianism, lower tax policy, big government as the problem. Nationalism ironically became a positive reversing its history. Betsey DeVos for instance is a perfect education secretary, an impotent head of a once important institution.

We can't take credit for creating the Trump partisan, but because they were already primed with an unclear resentment, we were able to exploit that characteristic in many Americans especially white Americans and oddly even religious Americans and Evangelicals. The ground work was done and while it was supported and financed several other developments were required for idea deployment. Ideology adherents were developed and ideas promulgated to colleges. University Chairs were established and programs developed. These are the idea people today who spread the news. Quite obviously there is a historic background for our country too. At first there was the belief that Communism worked a kind of Marxist magic. Some Americans and even scholars believed the propaganda, but it was just that. Statistics made lies real. Some progress was made. After all we launched Sputnik. Media control in our country can be quite harsh but let's not get too complicated after all America and other nations that can be influenced are our work place today. Russian history can be a footnote. Power wants its people compliant and confused and it pays well and keeps us working. The Bible was right concerning money.

We arrive at today and our role in creating beliefs, your reality in other words was a small step, the ideas had fertile soil. Some of course think they are actually preaching truths, everyone imagines they know things, but few know where the things they believe come from. Why believe this and not that. But let's not get too complicated. When you are a child adults tell you lots of imaginary things and you believe. Fantasies comfort. What's to keep the powerful from doing that to adults. Enter Social media, Facebook began in 2004, slowly at first but some deep thinkers in espionage saw its potential. Twitter in 2006. Combined with numerous radio programs and online internet sites, information travels everywhere and is repeated and repeated. Truth comes through repetition, advertisers know that, anything that makes our opponents look bad, be it only a phrase or an aside, is soon propagated throughout the social media sphere.

We have had lots of help from America and its media. Red State, Breitbart, Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, Newsmax, OAN, and Fox media are only a part of the machine. If you can play on people's resentment, biases, and hatred you have a person who can be led. As political sites grew our work was focused on election periods. We created identities and supported people and platforms who sow distrust in the very words you read. We didn't need to create the idea of fake media, you elected a president who did it for us. Dark money and Citizens United gave us power too and face it Americans you vote. Your investigative journalists provided info on Trump, but social media and an obsession over H's email clouded the dialogue. Even your Republican elected officials defend our work in a matter of speaking. We targeted Red States and rural areas.

Remember too the Trump family is banal and crooked, they do not operate in a world of ethics, they hardly puzzle over their behaviors, they consider dishonesty just the way it is. We Russians love American words like crooked. They colluded and conspired but the Trumps are clever enough to hide behind American law and American 'Freedoms'. Add the 'The Federalist Society' which picks tools for the powerful and you have the ingredients for the eventual breakdown of democracy. Remember Hillary did win but America is not a democracy, it is a Republic and it is ruled and managed by an elite, both moral and immoral, always been that way and so long as we can distract people and money pays the bills we will play our part. If the senate can be managed and manipulated with republicans, the courts and judges can be too. Look at all the judges they selected what a win that is for the privileged classes.

We did not create Trump or Kushner or Miller or Kavanaugh or Parscale or Dobbs or Barr or Hannity, you did, your system did, and so while we use them they represent the amorality of your world. Winning at all cost is American as apple pie. Love your idioms. Some claim we are amoral. Listen people, many are amoral, Trump is amoral, do you really think he believes or thinks deeply about anything? Twitter is so much fun. Look at Steve Bannon, he too is part of the gaming of the American people, and folks should democrats ever get their message heard, we will twist that too and soon republicans will be looked on as really caring for America and Americans. You know, the values issue, wins every time. Notice we are already doing that with the ACA, aka Obamacare. We know where to focus, Democrats don't. Cultural location and religious belief - rural remote - are areas of dissemination, focus areas in other words. Just a matter of time and soon your nation will be like ours, controlled by the few. In many ways it already is, but one must not see that for the leader must promise the promised land and always strive to pull the wool over your eyes. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Allow a moment of commiseration, your poor working class will remain poor, your West Virginia coal miners will remain poor, your Southern States will remain poor, your rural areas will remain poor, but they will cheer and wear their MAGA hats praising a man who cares less about them than we do. Funny huh. Tribes stick together and republican policies are words not deeds. When single issues control your vote you are an easy target. It took time to make your government and MSM the problem but we had inside help. You see them on TV daily. Your middle class is now more similar to your working class poor. Of course most of your GDP is spent on defense and guess who gains from defense spending. You made your bed and while we may have helped, you vote we don't. 'Freedom' spoke. No job training in America today but lots of finger pointing. Of course USAReally and RT will help your media sources too. Information today is so flexible, it can be made up and changed in a moment. Take care.

Footnote: We must be careful should republicans and Trump destroy too many of the values and policies that have made America great. Americans could then return to realpolitik, a place where commonsense rules over ideology and created reality. Another FDR could again make America great as Reagan promoted even though he was created by the words of corporate propagandists. 2020 here we come. Good luck America.


Editor Note: The Russian troll's confession may be a spoof, we do not know. If 'they' return to comment we'll be open to their opinion. America is in a state of divided incredulity, but so long as the economy isn't crashing, anything goes. Trump rallies appear to be more useful tools for control than many had thought. Lies are truths, promises never kept, but the show goes on and on.

Russian trolls: https://www.recode.net/2017/11/2/16598312/russia-twitter-trump-twitter-deactivated-handle-list

The show goes on: https://popular.info/p/trump-ad-contagion-spreads-on-facebook

Or not: https://www.zdnet.com/article/putin-signs-runet-law-to-cut-russias-internet-off-from-rest-of-world/


"The function of law and theology are the same: to keep the poor from taking back by violence what the rich have stolen by cunning." Robert Anton Wilson
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midcan5 said:
Russian Troll Supports Joe Biden

Why you must ask as we helped elect Donald Trump. I know my fans and foes alike are not going to believe this but we must speak up now before our work disappears. America and China are the only powers in the world aside from our Mother Russia. If America fails there is only China and I/we do not understand their culture or language. Europe is a harder area for our work as they are more educated, socialism and government are not negatives there. Of course my comrades work hard there too.

My family comes first and I must keep this job. Trump and the republicans - and of course the SCOTUS - will make America a weak nation, they do that now, so another four years of Trump could easily make America the joke it is becoming in the eyes of the world. We thought Trump would select competent, honest people to counter his dishonesty and ignorance but we were wrong. His administration is full of puppets and any who think are soon replaced. This can not go on. Look only at your COVID deaths under his incompetence. And a more far right wing conservative SCOTUS could make him president even after this term as they did in 2000. Enough said, America must wake up elect Joe so I can feed our deti. Think about it.

Please do not share these comments, they will be denied and made the work of a troll. Irony anyone.

Editors: Source unclear but enjoyable still.
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trump did hire qualified and somewhat honest people. That is why he had to fire them and start over . For him that was a bad selection. Need suckups without morals and ethics. He got them.
 
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