Guno צְבִי
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It always works out great when you tell others what they ment by what they said.
I says it. I know what I meant by it.
Certainly. The answer is the swindler who defrauded 10’s of thousands out of millions with phony charities and universities, been successfully sued for it over and over, who publicly humiliated three count them THREE wives and betrayed his own brother on his death bed because some crappy producer of bad TV game shows -resented him to you as a reality TV business tycoon.
Yep, that’s the answer alright. No one is laughing at us for being that kinda special stupid as to have gone down this road. No sir. We’re all Wile E. Coyote “Super Genius”.
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You answer your own question with stupid answers.
You didn't see a Trump rally up close either. You tend to bullshit a lot, TDS is terminal in you.
Walmart? Like everyone who shops there is bad? I think not. At this point, you have no understanding of anything.
Oh and by the way, JFK was a skin hound while he was married and president. Not that it really matters, right?
ModernDiogenes
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You can repeat that over and over but we all know MAGA is a group. A group of people. -Dooley who do not DISCERN. People who do not practice sound ethical thinking and certainly lack common sense. People who evidence that lack of discerning, unethical thinking devoid of common sense by doing things like electing a swindling con man as POTUS because done chowderhead of a lousy TV game show producer presented this fraud to MAGA as a “business tycoon”.
We’d think it’s funny if you weren’t dragging us down this shit pipe with you.
The $21.7 Billion Blunder: New PSI Report Reveals Billions in Taxpayer Dollars Squandered by DOGE | U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut
[WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Ranking Member of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) released a Minority...
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Google A.I. Overview on DOGE:
The True Costs and Losses
While DOGE claimed to be slashing waste, federal reports revealed that its aggressive tactics actually generated massive systemic expenses: [1]
- Direct Waste & Separations ($21.7 Billion): A formal Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) report revealed that DOGE directly generated $21.7 billion in federal waste. The largest chunk—$14.8 billion—came from a chaotic "Deferred Resignation Program" alongside $6.1 billion spent on involuntary employee separations, forced leave, and administrative friction. [1]
- The Long-Term Taxpayer Bill ($135 Billion): Broader independent fiscal analyses estimated the total cost of DOGE's civil servant purge—including paid leave, massive waves of lawsuits from wrongful terminations, contract breach penalties, and the inevitable cost of re-hiring and retraining—will top out around $135 billion. [1, 2, 3]
- Macroeconomic Spending Increases: According to fiscal assessments by groups like the Cato Institute, despite DOGE orchestrating a 9% cut to the peacetime federal workforce, total U.S. government spending did not go down at all during its tenure—it actually went up. [1, 2]
- Future Tax Revenue Loss ($500+ Billion): The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) projected that DOGE-driven personnel cuts to tax enforcement and fraud-detection divisions would ultimately cause the U.S. Treasury to miss out on more than $500 billion in legally owed uncollected revenue. [1]
Why DOGE’s "Savings" Were Debunked
In August 2026, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) published a scathing audit showing that 96% of DOGE’s savings calculations completely lacked supporting data or verification. [1]
The GAO Report and investigations by media outlets like the New York Times highlighted severe errors in how DOGE calculated its numbers: [1]
- Ghost Cancellations: DOGE claimed $27.4 billion in savings for contracts it never actually canceled. For instance, it boasted saving $1.7 billion by terminating a Defense Health Agency IT contract, but the military never modified or dropped the contract. [1, 2]
- Pre-existing Expirations: DOGE claimed millions in savings by "terminating" government building leases that had already naturally expired or been scheduled for closure before DOGE was even created.[1, 2]
- Double Counting: If a multi-year contract was underutilized, DOGE would book the absolute maximum potential value of the contract as "immediate savings," vastly inflating its scorecard. [1]
Collateral Damages
The funding cuts that did go through mostly targeted smaller, highly specialized programs rather than moving the needle on the $7 trillion federal budget. For example, a Brookings Institution analysis calculated that DOGE abruptly revoked $468.7 million in promised federal funding from Tribal Nations and Native organizations, severely disrupting environmental, climate resilience, and agricultural programs in Indian Country. [1, 2, 3]
You won’t read any of that though, and you have no counter argument for it if you did.
Cost benefit analysis. We are losing money on that too.
Google A.I. Overview:
The total projected cost of the Trump administration's mass deportation plan ranges from $315 billion for a one-time operation to nearly $1 trillion ($967.9 billion) for a multi-year execution. [1, 2]
Data compiled by the American Immigration Council and economic tracking updates outline the operational expenses, taxpayer burdens, and macroeconomic losses associated with the roundups:
Direct Operation Costs
Executing the roundup and removal of an estimated 13 million undocumented individuals requires historic expansions of federal enforcement infrastructure: [1, 2]
- One-Time Operation ($315 Billion): Includes $89.3 billion for arrests, $167.8 billion for mass detention facilities, $34.1 billion for legal processing, and $24.1 billion for removal flights. [1]
- Multi-Year Plan ($88 Billion Annually): To deport 1 million people per year over roughly a decade, the costs total $967.9 billion. This includes $66.2 billion per year for new detention capacity and $12.6 billion annually to scale up immigration courts. [1, 2, 3]
- Per-Taxpayer Share: As of late 2026, the federal deportation and detention push averages an estimated $2,358 per American taxpayer in direct expenses. [1, 2]
Hidden Macroeconomic and Fiscal Losses
Beyond the immediate operational budget, the crackdown alters wider federal revenues and economic output:
- Lost Tax Revenue: Increased enforcement risks and changes to tax-filing systems could cost the U.S. up to $479 billion in lost tax revenues over 10 years, as fewer undocumented workers risk filing returns. [1]
- Gross Domestic Product (GDP) Drop: Economists project that the removal of these workers would trigger severe labor shortages in agriculture, construction, and hospitality, reducing overall U.S. GDP by 4.2% to 6.8% (a loss of $1.1 trillion to $1.7 trillion). [1, 2]
- Administration Perspective: Conversely, a report released by the White House Council of Economic Advisers titled The Real Cost of Socialism in America argues that mass deportations mitigate long-term public spending. The administration estimates the lifetime accumulated fiscal cost of each undocumented immigrant to taxpayers at $166,716 by age 78, using this data to justify the upfront enforcement expenditures. [1]
Who said there was. You have no desire to round up the illegal rich folks breaking the law in hiring them though.
You can keep calling me a moron all you want but the numbers on this in on my side. Trump is truly botching this up.
You didn’t say that about J6’ers when they got pardoned. Sorry, you’re a hypocrite
Again, J6 you were on the other side of that. You can’t keep it straight, can you.
Again, the metrics don’t bare that out for you. The level of corporate money purchasing elections and influence clearly indicates otherwise.
TDS = Trump Deplorable Syndrome. That which occurs when the MAGA deplorable’s (yes, you’ve proven Clinton right) lack of DISCERNMENT, ethical thinking and common sense tells them the swindling con artist feed to them by the TV game show producer as a legitimate Tycoon is worthy to be placed in high office.
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
Not a counter argument. You know that though.
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
Look, I’ve got nothing against wanting or dreaming and nothing against most of MAGA. I live in a very Red section of NJ we call “Trumplandia”. I’m a registered Republican and a fiscal conservative.
What I don’t like is the section of MAGA that’s all about hate and fear, and I particularly don;t care for the voting against common points of interest we share, like not wanting a more corrupted government and tariff wars and shooting wars that in danger our youth abroad and raise the cost of living here at home.
I don’t get what was hard to see about “orange man truly is bad”. Like I said, I did the digging, it wasn’t hard. His personal history is resplendent with acts of cruelty (his brother, his wives), betrayal and all manner of grifting and fraud.
It doesn’t take a deep dive to realize Trump is a truly rotten human being. Certainly no one that should be given power.
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
Say what you like but I’m smart enough to know you don’t but the reality TV con man in the big chair. That gives me one up on MAGA, who apparently are unaware.
Bull ca-ca. We had a few of them up here in the Poconos area. Pennsylvania is a swing state. I went to one. I’m a curious person. I had to look and see for myself. I wasn’t impressed. In fact MAGA up close is a little bit daft. Like I said, Walmart at 3am.
You is k insight. I said no different. Kennedy wasn’t squiring the in public and appearing with them on the front image of the tabloids.
Lots more but that enough.
What kind of man dies that to his wives.
Into the Night
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MAGA is not a group either, moron.
MAGA is not a group.l
You are describing Democrats again.
You are describing Democrats and Biden again.
MAGA is not a person.
Awwwww. I hurt his widdle feelings....
Random link ignored.The $21.7 Billion Blunder: New PSI Report Reveals Billions in Taxpayer Dollars Squandered by DOGE | U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut
[WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Ranking Member of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (PSI) released a Minority...
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What 'illegal rich folks'?
Argument from randU fallacy, moron
Botching what up, moron?
Other side of what, moron?
No metrics. Argument from randU fallacy.
You are describing Democrats again.
Redefinition fallacy. TDS is Trump Derangement Syndrome. You have a bad case of it. Be aware it's a potentially fatal disease.
MAGA isn't a person, moron.
So you back a sex pervert.
You are describing Democrats again, but neither Biden, Obama, nor Clinton were tycoons.
Into the Night
Contributor
Contextomy fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.
Into the Night
Contributor
Lie.
You are describing Democrats again. MAGA is not a person.
You are describing Democrats again.
That's what you want, moron.
What tariff wars?
What shooting wars?
What shooting wars?
You are describing Democrats again.
You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
fuck you, concern troll poseur.
I want tariff wars.
globalism is a race to the bottom and only libertarian banker cocksmokers like globalism now and they worship Satan and drink baby blood.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
he did some good things. then he went full neocon fuckface.
never go full neocon fuckface.
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
please don't help, retard monkey fucker.Lie.
You are describing Democrats again. MAGA is not a person.
You are describing Democrats again.
That's what you want, moron.
What tariff wars?
What shooting wars?
What shooting wars?
You are describing Democrats again.
You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
^^^^^I rest my case ^^^^^
You still don't get it. YOU, and a couple of others here, are my case. I give you a prompt and you are off to the races proving precisely what the thinking of the average Trump supporter is. Thank you. You are very giving.
ModernDiogenes
Well-known member
He did a couple of smart things. He facilitated the moving of Israel's capital back to Jerusalem. I gave him credit for that. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Trump isn't a neocon, fuckface or otherwise. If you had to categorize him he is a corporate autocratic oligarch. Though being the pathological malignant narcissist he is he promotes no ideoology other than, "By hook or crook, and it is usually crook, I get mine."
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
I will venture to say that most corporate autocratic oligarchs in America are also neocon fuck faces.
he knows populism is superior for not Satan worshippers.
he said all that shit and then betrayed it all.
he's garbage, but his initial message is Pony Boy.
Into the Night
Contributor
The average Trump supporter supports Trump by definition, moron.
Into the Night
Contributor
Go learn what 'oligarchy' means, moron. It is DEMOCRATS that want an oligarchy. You can't blame Democrats on Trump.
You are describing Democrats again.
You are describing Democrats again.
Inversion fallacy.
Into the Night
Contributor
...this from the guy the worships the golden rule.
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
Comparing trump to JFK
