So, You Want $15 An Hour?

danielpalos said:
Do you appeal to ignorance of economics, thus capital based concepts? Why should anyone vote for right-wing Tax Cut economics that benefits the Richest the most under our form of Capitalism.
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So you do t understand the question? Just print money is the solution. Lmfao. You're a Brandon level idiot.
 
Yakuda said:
So you do t understand the question? Just print money is the solution. Lmfao. You're a Brandon level idiot.
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Only if you appeal to ignorance of economics, thus capitalism and the fiscal multiplier effect of some public policies. Are you a Socialist?
 
Self-checkouts were a great idea!

I don't use them if I have a cart full of stuff! If I only have an armful of stuff- I prefer them!

Someone would have to pay me $25 an hour to work as a cashier- anywhere!

But then again, I would never work for less than that anyway! LOL!
 
What is the difference in taxes paid between someone making twenty-five dollars an hour and someone on the current minimum wage? It should be relatively easy to raise tax revenue in a market friendly manner by merely raising the minimum wage.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Easy, SG. I get it from your responses so far.

But if they could not get anything...if they did not have the many friends and family they could lean upon...you would be okay with them starving and freezing to death...right?
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Would I be "okay" with it? No. Would I accept that it may happen? Yes...

YOU would not want them to receive aid from the government to provide the basics...food and shelter, for instance?
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Not in perpetuity, no. Government assistance is just that: ASSISTANCE. It should not ever be what someone relies on in lieu of a paycheck.

There are plenty of jobs out there right now. If someone refuses to work because they think the pay is beneath them, well, fuck 'em...
 
Frank Apisa said:
Easy, SG. I get it from your responses so far.



But if they could not get anything...if they did not have the many friends and family they could lean upon...you would be okay with them starving and freezing to death...right?

YOU would not want them to receive aid from the government to provide the basics...food and shelter, for instance?

Just trying to be sure we are on the same page.
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Frank! The "safety net" is supposed to be temporary, not something some turn into a lifetime career.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Self-checkouts were a great idea!

I don't use them if I have a cart full of stuff! If I only have an armful of stuff- I prefer them!

Someone would have to pay me $25 an hour to work as a cashier- anywhere!

But then again, I would never work for less than that anyway! LOL!
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:laugh: you must be unemployed...
 
RB 60 said:
Frank! The "safety net" is supposed to be temporary, not something some turn into a lifetime career.
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Employment is at the will of either party not just the employer or the State as the Richest under our form of Capitalism.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
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Street Glider said:
Would I be "okay" with it? No. Would I accept that it may happen? Yes...



Not in perpetuity, no. Government assistance is just that: ASSISTANCE. It should not ever be what someone relies on in lieu of a paycheck.

There are plenty of jobs out there right now. If someone refuses to work because they think the pay is beneath them, well, fuck 'em...
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Okay. You are of the "I've got mine, fuck you" school.

That is allowed.

You got yours by hard work, right?
 
RB 60 said:
Frank! The "safety net" is supposed to be temporary, not something some turn into a lifetime career.
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Not if we make it permanent.

Your side would pretty much make it non-existent, if you could. So...why not make it permanent, instead?

Why not keep the unproductive out of the work force...but not let them starve or freeze to death? Why not set things moving toward EVERYBODY working a lot less?

Why, after the introduction of trillions upon trillions of mechanical slaves into our economy, must some people work more now than 70 -80 years ago just to have a reasonable life style?

What the fuck is wrong with us to make this pathetic system continue down this slope?
 
What is wrong with getting all the economic efficiency we can from the socialism of the Law? All laws of a general nature shall have uniform operation.
 
Street Glider said:
So, you want $15 to start as a cashier at Wal-Mart?

I rarely go to Wal-Mart, but the last time I was there (about three weeks ago) there were two cashiers on duty, and eight self-service lanes open.

It's a smart move by Wal-Mart. At $15 an hour, eight cashier lanes running 17 hours a day (my local Wal-Mart is open from 6am-11pm) costs Wal-Mart $2,040 per day to operate. In just 2-1/2 days a single kiosk can pay for itself (they run around five grand a pop). The kiosk then no longer needs anything; no training, no time off, no breaks, no health insurance, no paid holidays; nothing.

This is where retail is headed. If we assume ten kiosks per store and an otherwise hourly wage of $15 an hour per soon-to-be-out-of-work cashier, once these kiosks pay for themselves (which would happen in rather short order) Wal-Mart will save a total of $2,550 per day in hourly wages. That's $17,850 per week, or $928,200 a year, and that's per store. Wal-Mart has approximately 10,500 stores. If this approach was put in place in all of their stores, Wal_Mart would save $9,746,100,00 per year.

Many retailers will follow Wal-Mart's lead. If the kiosk idea ultimately fails, Wal-Mart is large enough to absorb the loss. If it succeeds, though, other retailers will start adopting the use of kiosks instead of employing cashier's. Even the largest grocery stores (which are also currently employing self-serve kiosks) will be able to operate with far fewer employees.

This is just an observation based on what I've seen locally here in northeast Florida. I have to believe that northeast Florida is not unique...
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Arbitrary minimum wage laws created by Government have never done anything to improve the lives of those they intend them for.

There is a reason you are a Wal-Mart greeter or flipping hamburgers at McDonald's.

The best way to improve one's economic position and enhance one's livelihood is getting an education or learning a highly skilled in demand job. :thumbsup:
 
Truth Detector said:
Arbitrary minimum wage laws created by Government have never done anything to improve the lives of those they intend them for.

There is a reason you are a Wal-Mart greeter or flipping hamburgers at McDonald's.

The best way to improve one's economic position and enhance one's livelihood is getting an education or learning a highly skilled in demand job. :thumbsup:
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That is why equal protection of our own at-will employment laws for unemployment compensation is much more economically efficient; we can utilize existing legal and physical infrastructure to solve for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment through the "socialism of the Law".
 
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