Thank God, its finally happening...

But But, Mueller, but but.... you're an idiot

Mueller:

FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”
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Obstruction of justice - 18 USC 1501-1521
Witness intimidation 18 USC 1512
Emoluments - US Constitution
Abuse of power - no statute. Merely reason to be removed from office
Extortion – 18 USC 112
Solicitation of something of value from a foreign entity - 11CFR 110.2 and 11 CFR 300.2

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Extortion – 4 elements
Threat – withholding $400 million
Intent – Forcing public announcement of investigations
Fear – of loss of funding for defensive weapons against the Russians
Property – the thing of value is the investigations of 2016 tampering and the Bidens
 
Today the president took it on the chin, even Fox News admits it.

you think so?

From what I have read, we have learned nothing new.

Of course you have thought he has "taken it on the chin" for three years. You thought that with Mueller when you told us Mueller gave democrats a roadmap to impeachment? Democrats told us that. Maybe you did or didn't, but many JPP leftists did.
 

Funny the witnesses were asked what impeachable offense occurred on the call and none of them could answer.

Hey I found a wonderful thread of yours. Remember when you said you didn't want Trump impeached? Do you think the bolded below applies to Ukraine phone call?

Unless there is some very vulgar treason or action that is particularly dangerous to the security of the American State, I think it is better not to impeach the trader Trump.

We have a sickness in our nation, after seeing the crowd in Tampa shoot the finger at the Media, yell obscenities and promote the Q conspiracy theories I am dismayed at how a large group of Americans have lost any bit of decorum or ability to behave with a modicum of dignity or self-respect. They also have never been taught a speck of critical thinking skills. This clanish thug behavior is infecting some minority, but more of a minority than any other modern time. If the United States is to survive as an example of how to shine for much of the uneducated world we cannot allow this group to grow. Many nations, mostly poor ones with inferior education systems are stuck in the vice grip of this type of mob rule, electing leaders who chose power over intelligence and personal gain over national pride. We have come a long way from, "Ask now what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Impeaching Trader Trump would only poke this bear. Sadly, I think the way to handle them is to ignore them and let them fade into history. You can never prove them wrong with logic, or any other method, they simply feel entitled to be right and therefore they believe they are right, facts no longer fit into the equation. Its not new or limited to political party, consider the birther movement, or even further back those who believed GWB knew ahead of time about the 9-11 attacks. The difference is that this time they eked out a win at the presidential level. An accident of history allowed one of them to become president.

America is strong and built to withstand this, four years of tyrannical behavior in the oval office is not enough to dismantle the democratic institutions (deep state) that were designed to protect us. We have a Congress that, while Majority Republican, has refused to give the despot much in the way of significant legislative wins and a Court system that has throttled his most radical efforts. We will soon right the ship, correct the course and move forward, but an impeachment just might be enough to cement the minority of rubes in a permanent violent rebellious frame. As I learned when a former poster on this board told me he and his like minded American brotheren would put a bullet in my head if I kept spouting liberal ideas, violence is the result of this groups realization that they have lost the logic argument. For many of them there is no hope that a renewed renaissance will teach them reason and logic, they are lost to the teachings of Copernicus or Montaigne much less Rojas or Avila. This minority, when confronted with a logic based reality will only grow violent and angry, not more reasonable or intelligent. Let the checks and balances of our government work their designed effect, allow the system to even itself out and as designed the majority will (I think) right the ship.

Don't impeach Trader Trump, let him fade away.
 
If Trump were not president and did this against the wishes of a president that person would rot in jail.
No person is above the law.
Ergo Trump should be impeached and removed.
Repukes will never do that. Ergo, they are traitors.

Pretty simple.
 
If Trump were not president and did this against the wishes of a president that person would rot in jail.
No person is above the law.
Ergo Trump should be impeached and removed.
Repukes will never do that. Ergo, they are traitors.

Pretty simple.

Trump sycophantic supine cult members would be okay with his shooting them or one of their family members if he so chose to for whatever reason because he is above the law.

So many are Russkie trolls though.
 
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If Trump were not president and did this against the wishes of a president that person would rot in jail.
No person is above the law.
Ergo Trump should be impeached and removed.
Repukes will never do that. Ergo, they are traitors.

Pretty simple.

What crime?
 
If Trump were not president and did this against the wishes of a president that person would rot in jail.
No person is above the law.
Ergo Trump should be impeached and removed.
Repukes will never do that. Ergo, they are traitors.

Pretty simple.

Apparently Biden is above the law. He is running for President so he cannot be investigated even if he did something wrong.

That is after all what today is all about.
 
President Trump is being called to the carpet publicly for his crimes. The Democrats are doing their job and exposing this president publicly.

No matter the outcome, I am very happy and feel revealed. My work getting Democrats elected to the House is finally paying off.
Johnson, Clinton and now Trump...

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Yeah, keep us posted. ;)
 
Thank you, history will show at least some group reacted to this criminality, that was important.

What criminality? You liars keep bloviating this same dumb lie now for THREE fucking years with NOTHING to prove it. TWO years of investigating came up with NOTHING.
 
I am also gratified for the reasons stated. Real justice is impossible, because Trump should be hung after his criminal conviction for many acts of treason.

Saved. You are going to be one distraught, loony leftist when Trump gets re-elected. Maybe we need to place you on a suicide watch? :laugh:
 
Ukraine and other states that border Russia are on the front line blocking Russia. We were smart enough to figure out, many years ago, that helping them helped the us and Nato countries. We have helped them for a long time. We just did it in the past. We did not try to manipulate them for the president's business.
We know the Repubs have no defense, so they will throw bombs. That charge that the Whistleblower should be testifying is so absurd. It is anathema to the entire concept.

'Nobody Pushed Me.' Ukrainian President Denies Trump Pressured Him to Investigate Biden's Son
 

Mueller Report; Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

Barr: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.


Mueller Report; Page 182 V II:
I. CONCLUSION

Accordingly, ….. this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime…...


'Nobody Pushed Me.' Ukrainian President Denies Trump Pressured Him to Investigate Biden's Son
 
Funny the witnesses were asked what impeachable offense occurred on the call and none of them could answer.

Hey I found a wonderful thread of yours. Remember when you said you didn't want Trump impeached? Do you think the bolded below applies to Ukraine phone call?

:thumbsup:
 
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