The False Romance of Russia that attracts Trump's cult

Woko Haram said:
So, how exactly are Republicans being fascist in not buying the Russian collusion narrative?
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Because they don't really believe there was no collusion, they just don't want to admit there was. Look at how Meghan McCain pathetically tries repeating the Republican talking-points that are obvious bullshit.



Crimea hasn't had war over it. But yes, the rest of Ukraine has.
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The Ukrainians are fighting the Russians over Crimea.
 
StoneByStone said:
Because they don't really believe there was no collusion, they just don't want to admit there was. Look at how Meghan McCain pathetically tries repeating the Republican talking-points that are obvious bullshit.





The Ukrainians are fighting the Russians over Crimea.
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AND the OBAMIDIOT REFUSED TO ARM UKRAINE AGAIUNST RUSSIA SO AS NOT TO PISS OFF HIS MANCRUSH, "VLADIPOO".....


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StoneByStone said:
#whataboutism
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^^^CONFUSED AS FUCKISM^^^^ Pres.TRUMP DID ARM UKRAINE....AND BOMB the RUSSIANS IN SYRIA. There is NOTHING IN PUSSYASS OBAMA's LEGACY TO "WHATABOUT".....AND THERE IS NO QUESTION HE SUCKED PUTIN'S DICK FOR EIGHT YEARS....SEE POST #2 for your obviously needed HISTORY UPDATE....
 
Grokmaster said:
^^^CONFUSED AS FUCKISM^^^^ Pres.TRUMP DID ARM UKRAINE....AND BOMB the RUSSIANS IN SYRIA. There is NOTHING IN PUSSYASS OBAMA's LEGACY TO "WHATABOUT".....AND THERE IS NO QUESTION HE SUCKED PUTIN'S DICK FOR EIGHT YEARS....SEE POST #2 for your obviously needed HISTORY UPDATE....
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You bring up Obama because you can't defend Trump. That's #whataboutism.
 
Cinnabar said:
Read on folks. This explains the love affair phony Christians are having with Russia in its efforts to undermine Democracy and the USA. And the dumbass sock-cuckers don't even realize this...



And Russians don't have gun rights suckers.

Much more to read at the link.
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Conservatives don't identify with Putin, or Russia. You are making shit up again Owl.
 
StoneByStone said:
Because they don't really believe there was no collusion, they just don't want to admit there was. Look at how Meghan McCain pathetically tries repeating the Republican talking-points that are obvious bullshit.

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Meghan McCain is an idiot in general. So was her father.


StoneByStone said:
The Ukrainians are fighting the Russians over Crimea.
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Indeed, but most Crimean residents prefer Russian rule.
 
Woko Haram said:
Meghan McCain is an idiot in general. So was her father.
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Yeah, but she didn't create these talking-points. The entire Republican party is standing behind this idiotic notion that the Mueller Report found nothing, when really it proved there was collusion between Trump and the Russian government.
And because Trump got away with that, he moved on to cheating in the next election. This is what happens when we allow politicians to get away with crimes they get caught for.

Indeed, but most Crimean residents prefer Russian rule.
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We have no way of knowing that. There was one vote taken on the matter, but it was done by Russia, so it was just propaganda. That's why like 90% was supposedly in favor.
 
StoneByStone said:
Because they don't really believe there was no collusion, they just don't want to admit there was. Look at how Meghan McCain pathetically tries repeating the Republican talking-points that are obvious bullshit.
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believe what you wanna believe,
but Mueller said there was no evidence of coordination by Trump, the campaign, or any American. that is definitive

The Ukrainians are fighting the Russians over Crimea.
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Crimea was annexed without a shot fired.
The war is in eastern Ukraine where there is a majority Russian population (Donbass)
 
dukkha said:
believe what you wanna believe,
but Mueller said there was no evidence of coordination by Trump, the campaign, or any American. that is definitive
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Nope. Here's what he actually said: “We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term. Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

So basically, Trump probably didn't break any laws (this time), but still colluded with Russia to cheat. You know, legal corruption. How this is legal is beyond me, but that's America.

Crimea was annexed without a shot fired.
The war is in eastern Ukraine where there is a majority Russian population (Donbass)
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And ever since the annexation happened, the Ukrainians have been fighting to take the territory back. The Republicans, being more Fascist than American, are siding with Russia anyway.
 
StoneByStone said:
Yeah, but she didn't create these talking-points. The entire Republican party is standing behind this idiotic notion that the Mueller Report found nothing, when really it proved there was collusion between Trump and the Russian government.
And because Trump got away with that, he moved on to cheating in the next election. This is what happens when we allow politicians to get away with crimes they get caught for.



We have no way of knowing that. There was one vote taken on the matter, but it was done by Russia, so it was just propaganda. That's why like 90% was supposedly in favor.
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No collusion and insufficient evidence to pursue obstruction.

If the Democrats thought that they could prove collusion, they would have included it in the Articles...that haven’t even been sent to the Senate.
 
countryboy said:
Conservatives don't identify with Putin, or Russia. You are making shit up again Owl.
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As one of the putative Putin lovers lol, about the only thing I agree with him on is his take that Western Europe is committing cultural and demographic suicide with their open immigration policy. Well, because they are.

Why would I question the obvious? Just because Putin is a dictator that makes him wrong about EVERYTHING? Even Little Kim [who is much, much worse then Putin, btw] is bound to be right about something.

Beyond that, I don’t wake up every morning thinking about Putin and Russia. That would be the lefties with their absurd Russian obsession that began in 2016. I’m more apt to wake up thinking about our porous border. Or about the homeless people living under the bridge. Or how many drug addicts I’ll come across today. Or how long before the next Islamic terrorist attack?

I’m more like tens of millions of sensible Americans who worry more about their own country than foreign dictators who only *remotely* threaten us. Or corrupt little Ukraine. Why would I spend even five minutes of my day worrying about Ukraine?

It’s called having your priorities right.
 
The usurpation of the Crimea by the Russians is worrisome.

The usurpation of Poland by Hitler was just a prelude to his advance across Europe.

It appears that Americans no longer have an appetite for stopping expansionists like the Russians and the Chinese. It’s quite understandable that there is war fatigue.

Freedom is not free and the price appears to be too high in the America of today. Perhaps some other countries can get down off the wagon and push.

When donkeys fly.
 
Earl said:
The usurpation of the Crimea by the Russians is worrisome.

The usurpation of Poland by Hitler was just a prelude to his advance across Europe.

It appears that Americans no longer have an appetite for stopping expansionists like the Russians and the Chinese. It’s quite understandable that there is war fatigue.

Freedom is not free and the price appears to be too high in the America of today. Perhaps some other countries can get down off the wagon and push.

When donkeys fly.
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You’ve fallen into the ‘everyone is Hitler’ trap lol.

If this country goes to war with Russia over Crimea we have officially lost our minds. Hitler was arguably insane and Putin isn’t. If Putin wants to jump from Crimea to Poland he’s jumped the shark. He would be crushed by NATO.

Seventeen UN nations recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation. Nobody recognized Hitler’s occupation of Poland. Russia/Crimea and Russia/Ukraine are closer to civil wars because some Crimeans and Ukrainians *want* to be in the Russian federation.

Apart from the usual garden variety sanctions we need to stay the hell out of it.
 
Russia and 17 UN member states officially recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, while Ukraine and 114 other UN member states do not.

I wasn’t suggesting that Putin is Hitler, just that that there is a historical similarity between Germany of the 1940’s and allowing a country to use naked aggression to take over another, the Crimea by Russia.

Not to worry, if America was invaded by the Russians or the Chinese, the left would say it would be racist to resist.

Lol.
 
Earl said:
Russia and 17 UN member states officially recognize Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, while Ukraine and 114 other UN member states do not.

I wasn’t suggesting that Putin is Hitler, just that that there is a historical similarity between Germany of the 1940’s and allowing a country to use naked aggression to take over another, the Crimea by Russia.

Not to worry, if America was invaded by the Russians or the Chinese, the left would say it would be racist to resist.

Lol.
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Crimea is basically contested real estate. Hitler/Germany had virtually no claim to the rest of Europe.

I don’t know the ins and outs [because I don’t care enough to learn lol] of Crimea/Russia beyond the fact ‘civil war’ is a much better analogy than Hitler/Germany in the later 1930’s. Hitler was overcome with a perverse Aryan supremacist fantasy that the led to WWII and its atrocities—Hitler is more analogous to our radical Islamist friends in that sense. In fact, someone coined the term ‘Islamo-fascism for that exact reason.

That sort of thing simply doesn’t exist anywhere in the Russia/Crimea equation. I advocate staying out of foreign civil wars and focusing infrastructure instead. Before I drive across a bridge and end up in the damn river.

Sometimes I wish I wasn’t blessed with common sense.
 
Darth Omar said:
Crimea is basically contested real estate. Hitler/Germany had virtually no claim to the rest of Europe.

I don’t know the ins and outs [because I don’t care enough to learn lol] of Crimea/Russia beyond the fact ‘civil war’ is a much better analogy than Hitler/Germany in the later 1930’s. Hitler was overcome with a perverse Aryan supremacist fantasy that the led to WWII and its atrocities—Hitler is more analogous to our radical Islamist friends in that sense. In fact, someone coined the term ‘Islamo-fascism for that exact reason.

That sort of thing simply doesn’t exist anywhere in the Russia/Crimea equation. I advocate staying out of foreign civil wars and focusing infrastructure instead. Before I drive across a bridge and end up in the damn river.

Sometimes I wish I wasn’t blessed with common sense.
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The seizure of Crimea by Russian special forces sent a signal that interstate borders were no longer sacrosanct.

There is a civil war that should be decided by the Ukrainians, The invasion of the Crimea is not a civil war. It was an invasion by a foreign country.

As to common sense, I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have me as a member.

Lol.
 
Earl said:
The seizure of Crimea by Russian special forces sent a signal that interstate borders were no longer sacrosanct.

There is a civil war that should be decided by the Ukrainians, The invasion of the Crimea is not a civil war. It was an invasion by a foreign country.

As to common sense, I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have me as a member.

Lol.
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Ok lol.

Should we be more concerned about the sanctity of our own borders or the sanctity of Crimea’s borders?
 
Putin has a grip on all power in Russia and he will never let go. Trump envies that. Republicans would gladly be perpetually ruled
by a king of their initial selection. Sheep. Orange man said crazy shit we likey. And that's all it took. Republicans are ez. and dumb.
 
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