The Godless left showing their tolerance!

iolo said:
I know Jesus was aware of Roman colonialism, just as he was aware of thieving by the local rich. He was pointing to the way forward: a primitive form of socialism.
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Why are you calling it colonialism?

No.. Jesus wasn't advocating socialism. Jewish laws of inheritance were far to strict for any form of socialism.

Look at Levirite marriage.
 
kudzu said:
Just go by what the Bible says.. Ruth was a Moabite.. Ruth and Boaz were the parents of Obed who begat Jessie who begat David.

Read Ezra 10.. Until after the Babylonian exile Jewishness was NOT matrilineal.
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Kudzu...if you were to ask ANY Jew, "Is the child of a Jewish woman a Jew?"...that Jew would say YES.

If you were to ask the same Jew, "Is the child of a Jewish man a Jew?"...some would say "yes"...some would say "probably"...some would say "maybe" and some would say, "How does one determine if the child is that of a Jewish man?"

So...insist if you must...

...BUT THE CHILD OF A JEWISH WOMAN IS A JEW.
 
kudzu said:
Judah was a tributary of Rome.. If you understood ancient inheritance laws in Israel, you would not be claiming Jesus was a socialist.
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As always, you seem to feel that Jesus's mission had no point whatever, other than to suggest interesting theological developments.
 
iolo said:
As always, you seem to feel that Jesus's mission had no point whatever, other than to suggest interesting theological developments.
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Well, you're not Jewish as you have said, but this isn't about YOU. Jesus couldn't have been a socialist. He was a Jew and upheld Jewish law which included Jewish laws of inheritance.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Kudzu...if you were to ask ANY Jew, "Is the child of a Jewish woman a Jew?"...that Jew would say YES.

If you were to ask the same Jew, "Is the child of a Jewish man a Jew?"...some would say "yes"...some would say "probably"...some would say "maybe" and some would say, "How does one determine if the child is that of a Jewish man?"

So...insist if you must...

...BUT THE CHILD OF A JEWISH WOMAN IS A JEW.
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Not before the Babylonian exile... Read Ezra 10.. Remember that Ruth was a Moahbite and she and Boaz were the parents of Obed who begat Jessi who begat David.

Remember also the forced conversion of the Edomites.
 
reagansghost said:
Jesus would spit in your face pal
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I asked......he said he would not........however, he has been known to spit in his hand, mix it with dirt and spread it on a blind man's eyes, curing his blindness.......he did say he was ready to do the same for you if you are willing.......
 
Wolverine said:
1 Timothy 2:12 New King James Version (NKJV)

12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
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translation error actually.......more correctly.......permit THAT woman.......discussing a member of Timothy's church who was causing dissension......
 
CFM said:
Two things, you can't answer a direct question and I doubt you have to guts to do any at my church.

As usual, a gutless coward that was raised by a gutless coward that was raised by a gutless coward . . . and so on.
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They allow you in church? amazing. Do you use your favorite term there, or are you another phony that puts on an act?
 
kudzu said:
Not before the Babylonian exile... Read Ezra 10.. Remember that Ruth was a Moahbite and she and Boaz were the parents of Obed who begat Jessi who begat David.

Remember also the forced conversion of the Edomites.
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Kudzu...a JEW is defined as the offspring of a Jewish mother.

If your ego requires that you continue to deny it...be my guest.

If you keep posting your absurd denial here...I will respond to it.

Your original comment was: "All three Abrahamic religions are about patriarchy.. Descent is traced thru the male line and women have very few rights."

I took exception to that with, "I don't think so, Kudzu. For Jews...and child of a Jewish MOTHER is a Jew.
That is what defines Jews."

I stand by that totally.

This other bullshit you are bringing in has nothing to do with what we were (ARE) discussing.
 
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