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The noose just got tighter
- Thread starter Guno צְבִי
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"Ukraine’s president, in his first public comments on the phone call that led to an impeachment inquiry into President Trump, said Wednesday that the call was “normal,” that “nobody pushed me,” and that he did not want to become entangled in American elections.
“I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be involved in the democratic elections of U.S.A.,” said the Ukrainian leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, speaking to reporters with Mr. Trump on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
“We had, I think, a good phone call,” Mr. Zelensky added, referring to a call the leaders had on July 25, which is at the center of the inquiry. “It was normal. We spoke about many things. And so, I think, and you read it, that nobody pushed — pushed me.”
Mr. Trump quickly interjected, saying, “in other words, no pressure, because you know what, there was no pressure.”
newyorktimes.com
"Extortion" requires some "pushing."
There was no extortion per the alleged extortionee (sic).
“I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be involved in the democratic elections of U.S.A.,” said the Ukrainian leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, speaking to reporters with Mr. Trump on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
“We had, I think, a good phone call,” Mr. Zelensky added, referring to a call the leaders had on July 25, which is at the center of the inquiry. “It was normal. We spoke about many things. And so, I think, and you read it, that nobody pushed — pushed me.”
Mr. Trump quickly interjected, saying, “in other words, no pressure, because you know what, there was no pressure.”
newyorktimes.com
"Extortion" requires some "pushing."
There was no extortion per the alleged extortionee (sic).
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Hello Darth,
Actually I see it as I am sticking to the point and you are trying to inject all kinds of other diversionary stuff. But I appreciate hearing your perspective because it is otherwise baffling how are person can be so well informed and still think Trump deserves to remain in office. The problem is not that you don't know what's going on. It's that so much of what you 'know' just isn't true. You're not underinformed. You're overinformed with disinformation. We know how Trump gets the uninformed. It is interesting to see how he also commands the support of the well informed.
Sorry. I do not subscribe to your weird definition of whataboutism. To me it is when a discussion comes along prompted by new evidence that Trump ordered the hold on the Ukrainian aid, and you turn it into the Steele Dossier. Now, to me, that is completely unrelated. But to you, it's all somehow part of the same thing. Personally, I think you're view is lost in a miasma of partisanship. I am just looking at whether Trump followed the Constitution. I see that he did not. That's the problem. It has nothing to do with the Dossier. If Democrats wanted to undo the 2016 election, the time to do it was just after the election. Not three years later after the term of office which was hoped to be avoided has already mostly transpired.
Nice try, but you don't get to call whataboutism to the person who is sticking to the topic because they won't follow your tangent.
Not.
The reason you're using all caps is because deep down inside your twisted logic is bugging you. It's just not right to be supporting Trump. Your conscience knows it, and it tears you up inside. There is a cure for that. Just admit it to yourself for once. Trump is wrong. He has no morals. He's wrong for America. We made a big mistake electing him. All of this bitter partisanship and polarity is exactly what Putin wanted. This all works very well in Putin's favor. You know deep down in your heart that I am really right. And it scares you.
Yes, it’s exactly what Putin wants.
And the Russian Dossier was a marvelous instrument for just that. So many, otherwise intelligent but misinformed people, bought it hook line and sinker.
And that irony escapes you, totally lol. Or does it? Maybe I’m not the one who needs to admit they were wrong.
Trump broke the Impoundment Control Act which says the president must spend money as appropriated by Congress. He did not notify Congress that he was withholding the military aid or provide a rationale explaining it. Trump ignores acts, laws, and regulations whenever he feels like it. This act was against the law.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
OK, that's just pathetic to try to take what I said about you and pretend it applies to me. And not very creative, I might add. You're on the side with the conspiracy theory that the news is all fake and only President Trump knows the score. That is totally bogus. You've been taken in by a con man. Sorry to have to tell you. We need to be more united in support of our nation and the world. The good things I'd like to see would help you as much as me. The world doesn't have to be a mean nasty place with lots of bad guys. Don't you see that we actually create that by believing in it? What goes around comes around. You put out those vibes and that's what comes back to you. But if you are guided by love then you put out good vibes and that's what comes back to you.
Trump has totally screwed up foreign relations. We had a nuclear treaty and a level of trust and respect with Iran when Trump took office. Now what do we have? That has all been trashed, they are ramping back up towards nukes, and we are on the verge of open warfare. And this is good, why?
Yes, it’s exactly what Putin wants.
And the Russian Dossier was a marvelous instrument for just that. So many, otherwise intelligent but misinformed people, bought it hook line and sinker.
And that irony escapes you, totally lol. Or does it? Maybe I’m not the one who needs to admit they were wrong.
OK, that's just pathetic to try to take what I said about you and pretend it applies to me. And not very creative, I might add. You're on the side with the conspiracy theory that the news is all fake and only President Trump knows the score. That is totally bogus. You've been taken in by a con man. Sorry to have to tell you. We need to be more united in support of our nation and the world. The good things I'd like to see would help you as much as me. The world doesn't have to be a mean nasty place with lots of bad guys. Don't you see that we actually create that by believing in it? What goes around comes around. You put out those vibes and that's what comes back to you. But if you are guided by love then you put out good vibes and that's what comes back to you.
Trump has totally screwed up foreign relations. We had a nuclear treaty and a level of trust and respect with Iran when Trump took office. Now what do we have? That has all been trashed, they are ramping back up towards nukes, and we are on the verge of open warfare. And this is good, why?