The Republican Party is Dying. Old, Racist, and Cannot Grow.

TTQ64 said:
Our communities were being destroyed before Clinton signed that bill. Where were you in the 80's?

That bill was written way before he took office.
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the states mimicked the laws for state crimes


that is where the MAJORITY of the abuse and damage were felt
 
cawacko said:
It's in our papers every week if not a daily basis and that's the battle over housing in California and zoning laws and well to do largely white communities fighting to avoid new housing which would possibly bring in "people of lessor means". That's not someone dropping the n word but it has major repercussions on where people can live. And if you believe the research that says poor minorities are hurt by being put in low performing largely minority schools well here is a big part of where it starts.

This is major policy with major implications. And it's happening in liberal California. Let's be real here, London Breed is a progressive. The only reason she is deemed a "moderate" is because she's not 100% against new market rate development. (Which means she at least has a modicum of understanding of how markets work). There's a reason progressives don't win the Mayor's office in SF because even some Democrats in SF know the City can't pay for affordable housing for everyone and rents don't come down when you don't build new product.

So today's housing decisions are being on zoning codes with racist pasts in well to do liberal dominated cities. Subjects like this aren't sexy to talk about but they have very real effects on people's day to day lives.
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Dude, you live in California. How is it that you don't know this?

Breed’s first big move is to the right
Board president packs key committees with conservatives and moderates, undermining the city's ability to fight the Trump Agenda

Sup. London Breed, who ran to her left in November, demonstrated very different political leanings yesterday with one of the most important roles of the board president: committee assignments.
https://48hills.org/2017/01/breed-shows-true-politics/

She is not a progressive, she's a moderate at best .. and she's most certainly not the progressive that progressives have supported.

My point to you remains the same .. if you're so concerned about racism, why aren't you concerned about it among the ranks of your own political party?
 
cawacko said:
When the crime bill was passed Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was President. The Democrats controlled the House and Senate. The bill was originally written by Senator Joe Biden, Democrat, Delaware.

In the Senate 54 Democrats voted Yes, 2 Democrats voted No. 7 Republicans voted Yes, 36 voted No and 1 abstained.

In the House 188 Democrats voted Yes, 64 Democrats voted No. 46 Republicans voted Yes, 131 Republicans voted No.


Those numbers don't exactly show the entire Republican Party voting for it and some Dems going along. In fact it shows about the opposite.
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Ronald Reagan Anti-Drug Abuse Acts which established mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession, or Lyndon Johnson's Safe Streets Act of 1968, which increased the flow of federal money to local and state police. Many pieces of punitive crime legislation pre-dated the 1994 bill, on the federal, state and local levels. The prison population had tripled in the two decades that preceded the act.
 
cawacko said:
Votes are public record.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1994/s295

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1994/h416



Seriously, I always thought this handle might be another Legion trolling account and now I'm convinced. Fvck you Legion.
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Ronald Reagan Anti-Drug Abuse Acts which established mandatory minimum sentences for drug possession, or Lyndon Johnson's Safe Streets Act of 1968, which increased the flow of federal money to local and state police. Many pieces of punitive crime legislation pre-dated the 1994 bill, on the federal, state and local levels. The prison population had tripled in the two decades that preceded the act.
 
blackascoal said:
Dude, you live in California. How is it that you don't know this?

Breed’s first big move is to the right
Board president packs key committees with conservatives and moderates, undermining the city's ability to fight the Trump Agenda

Sup. London Breed, who ran to her left in November, demonstrated very different political leanings yesterday with one of the most important roles of the board president: committee assignments.
https://48hills.org/2017/01/breed-shows-true-politics/

She is not a progressive, she's a moderate at best .. and she's most certainly not the progressive that progressives have supported.

My point to you remains the same .. if you're so concerned about racism, why aren't you concerned about it among the ranks of your own political party?
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Dude, the Bay Guardian almost makes Catro look like a capitalist. Of course someone that far to left thinks even progressives are now conservative. I explained how "moderates" and progressives are differentiated in SF. It's about zoning and whether one supports any new market rate development. The Bay Guardian thinks the government should build and own everything.
 
blackascoal said:
They didn't ask for racist enforcement, but that's exactly what they got.

Democrats hiding their heads in the sand about Bill Clinton is analogous to republicans doing the same thing about Trump.
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Not hiding in the sand, just showing how filthy dirty racist republicans lie like a Persian rug, about EVERYTHING.

They are not to be believed.
 
blackascoal said:
They didn't ask for racist enforcement, but that's exactly what they got.

Democrats hiding their heads in the sand about Bill Clinton is analogous to republicans doing the same thing about Trump.
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it was not driven by Clinton


it was driven by public outcry

Clinton didnt write the Bill
 
blackascoal said:
They didn't ask for racist enforcement, but that's exactly what they got.

Democrats hiding their heads in the sand about Bill Clinton is analogous to republicans doing the same thing about Trump.
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yes Clinton deserves blame for signing it dude


But it was not all on his shoulders

Before his election the republicans were all on the CRIME by black and brown people


remember the welfare queens and gang members lines


the ENTIRE country of all stripes were terrified of gang violence
 
cawacko said:
Dude, the Bay Guardian almost makes Catro look like a capitalist. Of course someone that far to left thinks even progressives are now conservative. I explained how "moderates" and progressives are differentiated in SF. It's about zoning and whether one supports any new market rate development. The Bay Guardian thinks the government should build and own everything.
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So I can expect that we will be hearing your voice on the racism running rampant in your own party .. because if we don't, your comments are hypocritical.

It's the corner that you've painted.
 
blackascoal said:
So I can expect that we will be hearing your voice on the racism running rampant in your own party .. because if we don't, your comments are hypocritical.

It's the corner that you've painted.
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I'm not doing anything different than you're doing. You're pointing out racism in the Republican Party and I'm pointing out racism in the Democratic Party.
 
evince said:
yes Clinton deserves blame for signing it dude


But it was not all on his shoulders

Before his election the republicans were all on the CRIME by black and brown people


remember the welfare queens and gang members lines


the ENTIRE country of all stripes were terrified of gang violence
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It is true that the Violent Crime Control Act (and a 1996 “welfare reform” bill that actually increased extreme poverty) was certainly part of an intentional move by Bill Clinton and other “New Democrats” to mine white racial resentment and overt bigotry against black people for electoral gain in a political landscape where “Reagan Democrats” were coveted, and the Republican Party had hammered “liberals” for being “soft” on crime (and thus by implication too “close” to people of color).
https://www.salon.com/2016/04/16/racist_then_racist_now_the_real_story_of_bill_clintons_crime_bill/

He did it and welfare reform for political gain.

How Bill Clinton’s Welfare “Reform” Created a System Rife With Racial Biases
http://billmoyers.com/2014/05/12/ho...orm-created-a-system-rife-with-racial-biases/

I'm good with whatever opinion you hold of Bill Clinton .. I just don't share it.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not doing anything different than you're doing. You're pointing out racism in the Republican Party and I'm pointing out racism in the Democratic Party.
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Wrong, I point it out in both parties .. but it happens FAR less among democrats. Among your side, it's almost daily.

I guess this means you'll continue to stand mute about real racism while you go hunting for it among liberals and progressives.

That's typical for you.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not doing anything different than you're doing. You're pointing out racism in the Republican Party and I'm pointing out racism in the Democratic Party.
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As I said in some thread today, racism isn’t partisan, it resides in the hearts and minds of its adherents.
 
blackascoal said:
Wrong, I point it out in both parties .. but it happens FAR less among democrats. Among your side, it's almost daily.

I guess this means you'll continue to stand mute about real racism while you go hunting for it among liberals and progressives.

That's typical for you.
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That's typical for me? Even though I didn't vote for the nominee of my party because of his racial views I refuse to acknowledge racism? And housing laws that discriminate aren't real racism?

Do I have some special power(s) that I'm not aware of? ILA says I'm the reason Republicans aren't conservative enough. And somehow I haven't stopped racism in the Republican Party according to you.

If the goal is to end racism I'm not why it's considered bad to point it out in areas that aren't obvious, like housing. But I write about it and people rarely respond. I know it's not as sexy as responding to Praise Kek dropping N bombs but housing and zoning having very real effects on a daily basis across the country.

And as with San Francisco I'm just the messenger. I live here, it's dominating the news.
 
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