The right to bear Arms? Not necefsarily.

Rob Larrikin said:
Not quite. It was to ensure the people of each State had the security a well regulated, Armed Militia would provide. According to your wacky re-writing, in which they want “everybody armed” you would arm prisoners, mass murderers, insane people, demented people, senile people, suicidally depressed teenagers, toddlers, babies and 100 year old great, great grandmothers with Alzheimer's. Heh– I guess that’s a gun nut’s idea of Nirvana, but it sure as hell wasn’t the Founders’.
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ahhhh, hyperbole. the best indicator that a person knows their argument is shite.


Rob Larrikin said:
From ‘The Founders Constitution’:

Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3

“Article VI. No vessels of war shall be kept up in time of peace by any state, except such number only, as shall be deemed necessary by the united states in congress assembled, for the defence of such state, or its trade; nor shall any body of forces be kept up by any state, in time of peace, except such number only, as in the judgment of the united states, in congress assembled, shall be deemed requisite to garrison the forts necessary for the defence of such state; but every state shall always keep up a well regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutred, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of field pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage."

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_10_3s1.html



LOL. Says an egg who can’t write properly and wouldn’t recognize what the Founders meant if they spanked him with the constitution all year.
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and my point is solidly proven by your own post. I'd be happy to teach you other parts of the constitution when you're ready.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
Uppercase lettering makes a difference, and commas make a difference. To explain how, here is the original wording, followed by the wording that was edited:

It went from:

A well regulated Militia, being necefsary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

To:

A well regulated militia being necefsary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

In the screwed up ratified version you now have two sections instead of four, thanks to the removal of two commas. That alone would give rise to an army of Homers intent on getting their AR15s and MP7s to play war games in the suburbs. As for the removal of capitals, it lowers the significance of the Militia, State and Arms, all of which were the main tenants of the Article the fourth to begin with.

Purdy soon the hillbillies were out in force, jumping for joy. “Yippee! Dawgone it, we kin have any fuggin gun we like. Yahoo! C’mon brothers, let’s go arm up and have a hoedown! Yee-hah!”
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So the founders were hillbillies. There is still no proof that simple commas and capitals would have made any difference. Thread fail.
 
NOVA said:
You're certainly free to express your stupid un-American crap all you want....good and brave men ans women fought and died to defend your freedom to spout your ignorant
opinions.....so enjoy yourself....
You alone don't threaten us at all. The problem is your numbers are much larger than just you...and sadly you're all to stupid to see that you threaten the freedoms
of all of us.....you won't allow free speech if you it don't agree with you, you want to disarm the citizens, you insist on ignoring the federal laws in various ways and
you threaten our election system with your demands that illegals should have the right to vote.....and your comrades now threaten to overthrow the elected president
of the United States......so we see the danger as real.
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Yeah we are a nation of mass shooting and gun deaths, just like the founders wanted. That is not un American. it is pro people. You can bend the constitution any dumb way you want, but the people do have the power to make themselves safe. You gun lovers are making us into a shooting gallery. Nobody is overthrowing the president, no matter how horrible he is. Not like the Repubs did with Clinton. Not like they planned if Hillary won. The Repuibs do not respect the constitution nor understand its intent. They are loopholing their way into justifying a terrible and dangerous gun love that threatens us all. You Repubs are so paranoid.
 
Nordberg said:
Yeah we are a nation of mass shooting and gun deaths, just like the founders wanted. That is not un American. it is pro people. You can bend the constitution any dumb way you want, but the people do have the power to make themselves safe. You gun lovers are making us into a shooting gallery. Nobody is overthrowing the president, no matter how horrible he is. Not like the Repubs did with Clinton. Not like they planned if Hillary won. The Repuibs do not respect the constitution nor understand its intent. They are loopholing their way into justifying a terrible and dangerous gun love that threatens us all. You Repubs are so paranoid.
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Hand gun crimes are down. The mass shootings are deep state theatrical productions, to drive the anti gun narrative. You are free to go now. Consider the truth, for freedoms' sake.
 
Nordberg said:
Yeah we are a nation of mass shooting and gun deaths, just like the founders wanted. That is not un American. it is pro people. You can bend the constitution any dumb way you want, but the people do have the power to make themselves safe. You gun lovers are making us into a shooting gallery. Nobody is overthrowing the president, no matter how horrible he is. Not like the Repubs did with Clinton. Not like they planned if Hillary won. The Repuibs do not respect the constitution nor understand its intent. They are loopholing their way into justifying a terrible and dangerous gun love that threatens us all. You Repubs are so paranoid.
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The 2nd amendment has been with us for over 250 years, unchanged...thats why we can buy and own guns for those 250+ years....so its YOU that can't seem to

understand the Constitution or accept it as it is....

Just as your lack of allowing conservative speakers their freedom to speak on college campuses.....and the gov. rights to regulate immigration and deport those that

have entered our country illegally....
 
NOVA said:
The 2nd amendment has been with us for over 250 years, unchanged...thats why we can buy and own guns for those 250+ years....
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Most of that 250 years it didn’t matter that people were misreading the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] because people raised their children with discipline, both at home and at school. You let the hippies take discipline out of the home and school, and have had several generations of murderbrats grow up since. That changes everything. As my dad used to say, “If you can’t handle a gun responsibly you don’t deserve one.” Your dad or grand-dad probably said the same. Well America can’t handle guns responsibly because they decided to raise murderbrats, and thus they don’t deserve crowd killing guns. You lost that right, if it ever existed, when you started mass producing brats.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
Most of that 250 years it didn’t matter that people were misreading the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] because people raised their children with discipline, both at home and at school. You let the hippies take discipline out of the home and school, and have had several generations of murderbrats grow up since. That changes everything. As my dad used to say, “If you can’t handle a gun responsibly you don’t deserve one.” Your dad or grand-dad probably said the same. Well America can’t handle guns responsibly because they decided to raise murderbrats, and thus they don’t deserve crowd killing guns. You lost that right, if it ever existed, when you started mass producing brats.
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Our rights under the 2nd have nothing to do with 'people' misreading anything....Its been ruled on by the SCOTUS dozens of times and

we still have the right today......your daddy notwithstanding....
 
NOVA said:
Our rights under the 2nd have nothing to do with 'people' misreading anything....Its been ruled on by the SCOTUS dozens of times and

we still have the right today......your daddy notwithstanding....
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The SCOTUS were wrong, as they were all the other times they were wrong.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Hand gun crimes are down. The mass shootings are deep state theatrical productions, to drive the anti gun narrative. You are free to go now. Consider the truth, for freedoms' sake.
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Oh, down. Well then we have no gun problem. My mistake........Do you ever make sense? Theater? WTF. How nuts are you?
 
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