The War Trump Can’t End

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The War Trump Can’t End
Washington needs a deal, but Tehran needs an enemy.​

For nearly five decades, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been preparing for a war that Donald Trump expected would take days.

As virtually every American president since World War II has learned, a monopoly on focus can outlast a monopoly on power. America under Trump is the attention-deficit superpower, pinballing from isolationism to interventionism in Venezuela, Iran, and Cuba, having hollowed out the State Department. The Islamic Republic is an obsessive-compulsive revolutionary state—a regime with a half-century fixation on resisting America, rather than advancing the welfare of its own people. Fighting America is not the regime’s policy; it’s the regime’s identity.

The deadlock is both ideological and structural. To justify the immense costs of conflict to American taxpayers, Trump must demand far more from Tehran in any deal than he would have before the war began. Conversely, having lost hundreds of billions of dollars and its top leadership, Iran’s theocracy must demand far more—and concede far less—than it ever would have previously. Neither side can afford a deal that the other might accept. And in a zero-sum negotiation, Iran’s monomaniacal focus is a greater currency than American military power.


 
Trump has no choice but to cave and in its shrinking circle of devotion Trump World will hail him all the more.
Right, the MAGA cultists will cheer wildly:cheer: if Trump just gets a piece of paper from the Iranians with some vague promises about negotiating about nuclear programs and Strait of Hormuz.

That's not really any better than the situation as it existed on February 27, the day before Trump's war.
 
The War Trump Can’t End
Washington needs a deal, but Tehran needs an enemy.​

For nearly five decades, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been preparing for a war that Donald Trump expected would take days.

As virtually every American president since World War II has learned, a monopoly on focus can outlast a monopoly on power. America under Trump is the attention-deficit superpower, pinballing from isolationism to interventionism in Venezuela, Iran, and Cuba, having hollowed out the State Department. The Islamic Republic is an obsessive-compulsive revolutionary state—a regime with a half-century fixation on resisting America, rather than advancing the welfare of its own people. Fighting America is not the regime’s policy; it’s the regime’s identity.

The deadlock is both ideological and structural. To justify the immense costs of conflict to American taxpayers, Trump must demand far more from Tehran in any deal than he would have before the war began. Conversely, having lost hundreds of billions of dollars and its top leadership, Iran’s theocracy must demand far more—and concede far less—than it ever would have previously. Neither side can afford a deal that the other might accept. And in a zero-sum negotiation, Iran’s monomaniacal focus is a greater currency than American military power.


Another dumb lie. This is not a war. It is a military exercise. In the first 24 hours the Iranian regimes leadership was destroyed, their air defenses, their Airforce and navy. Most of their missile capability was also destroyed.

I am amused by Iranian propaganda low IQ dumbasses parrot here though. It is a sad reminder of how stupid many American voters are and why Kamala got 75 million votes.

As for the end, yes it is coming soon because even the retarded mullahs know that they are suffering badly and the citizens will not take much more. They can't sell their oil. Their funds have been frozen. Their economy is in tatters and tanking.

The notion that they are winning can only be expressed by people with a severely low intelligence and serial lying, American leftists like you. One has to wonder why anyone would want this despotic regime to win anything. But like they say, morons like you don't even know they are morons.
 
Right, the MAGA cultists will cheer wildly:cheer:

Every time I see this strawman, I think, "how stupid are you people? Then I remember, you're very damned stupid, ignorant and uneducated.

if Trump just gets a piece of paper from the Iranians with some vague promises about negotiating about nuclear programs and Strait of Hormuz.

:lolup: Brainless dumb fuck thinks Trump would trust a piece of paper like Obama and Biden did. Moron. :laugh:

That's not really any better than the situation as it existed on February 27, the day before Trump's war.

You know what isn't any better? Your severely retarded mental state. You should seek out a mental health professional for that severe case of stupid and TDS.
 
12 weeks ago, your bloated Messiah

Another asinine strawman. Brain dead leftists can't seem to help themselves when they aren't engaged in serial lying and crying.

said the conditions for victory were an unconditional Iranian surrender, and giving him veto power over who they choose to lead Iran.

That is what he is saying. That is what the end result will be. The only reason Trump is talking to these hate filled morons is to save lives. If you had a brain and a modicum of common sense, which we can see you do not, you could comprehend the OBVOIUS.

Your posts never age well, and yet, you're too stupid to even be remotely embarrassed.
 
That is what he is saying. That is what the end result will be!
I'm holding you to your uber confident prediction that this conflict with Iran ends with their unconditional surrender, and Trump helping pick their next leaders.

Give me a timeline when this is all supposed to happen. Because you can't hide behind an intentional evasion that it might happen five or ten years from now.
 
The Islamic Assembly passed a bill on ownership of SoH. Now they're hastily working with Oman to vote it into law. There will be a user fee (toll) on every ship using SoH no matter how many tantrums Trump throws.
 
The Islamic Assembly passed a bill on ownership of SoH. Now they're hastily working with Oman to vote it into law. There will be a user fee (toll) on every ship using SoH no matter how many tantrums Trump throws.
Oman has already been threatened by Trump they will not agree. And voting it into law means nothing if it's not enforcable.

Another reason to exterminate the islamic state.
 
Oman has already been threatened by Trump they will not agree. And voting it into law means nothing if it's not enforcable.

Another reason to exterminate the islamic state.
Iran will turn back or set on fire every ship attempting to enter SoH without their permission. Ask the 5 tankers that turned off their AIS and tried to sneak in this week.
 
Here are direct quotes from Donald Trump over the past three months about aims for the Iran campaign, with brief notes showing the contradictions.

Direct quotes (with date/source):

  • “A short time ago, the United States military began major combat operations in Iran... Our objective is to defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime.” PBS
  • “It's a very simple message. They will never have a nuclear weapon.” PBS
  • “To the members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard... you must lay down your weapons and have complete immunity, or, in the alternative, face certain death.” PBS
  • “We're going to destroy their missiles and raze their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally again obliterated. We're going to annihilate their navy.” PBS
  • “We are on track to complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly. We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks — we're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages, where they belong.” (April 1 address) BBC1
  • “Well, we intended four to five weeks.” (when asked about campaign length) PBS
  • “We're already substantially ahead of our time projections... but whatever the time is, it's OK.” (March 2) PBS
  • “If a ceasefire expires... Then lots of bombs start going off.” (April 20) PBS
  • “I gave Iran ten days to MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT. Time is running out - 48 hours before all Hell will reign down on them.” (Truth Social, April 4) PBS
  • “Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the F-----' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH!” (Truth Social/Easter Day post, April 5) PBS
  • “We are in serious discussions with A NEW, AND MORE REASONABLE, REGIME to end our Military Operations in Iran.” (Truth Social, March 30) PBS
How these statements contradict or confuse:
  • Timeline vs. open‑ended: he repeatedly gave short timelines (“four to five weeks”; “shortly, very shortly”) while also saying operations could run much longer and threatening renewed bombardment if deals fail. PBS
  • Negotiation vs. annihilation: simultaneous offers to negotiate/ceasefire and demands for a deal contrast with repeated vows to “bring them back to the Stone Ages,” “obliterate” missile and naval capabilities, and threaten wide infrastructure destruction. BBC3
  • Regime change vs. limited objectives: some statements frame goals as narrowly military (destroy missiles/navy; prevent nukes), while others explicitly call for regime change or urge Iranians to “take over your government.” PBS2
  • Promises of immunity vs. “certain death”: he offered “complete immunity” to IRG members who surrender but simultaneously threatened "certain death" for those who do not. PBS
 
Oman has already been threatened by Trump they will not agree. And voting it into law means nothing if it's not enforcable.

Another reason to exterminate the islamic state.
There is an expression stupid people are incapable of understanding...

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

America already tried this with Iran and failed back when they and the Brits, over threw the Democratic leader due to him ending the near monopoly of the Brits controlling and profiting off Irans oil, and instead the US and Brits supporting the extreme Theists into power, creating the extremist theocracy shithole that Iran is now.

Later America and the Brits and the much of the world saw what a mistake was made and they turned to supporting Saddam and Iraq and a long war and other measures to try and overthrow and THEY FAILED. The regime sustained, no matter the atrocities done to them.

But Magats are stupid, so they understand none of this and thus just want the same 'NeoCon wars and interventionism' over and over, every few decades thinking 'this time will be different'. When it is all the same. More instability. Worse countries after and ever greater profits for the Military complex.
 
Demand much more? The only demand is that they knock off their uranium enrichment.

Everything else is negotiable.

You people are really fucking stupid.
What gives us the right to demand that? They claim they have not been seeking a nuke, and everything shows that. Pakistan has the bomb. Iran could have had one long ago. They have oil money. Only one country ever used nukes, and we did it twice. We should not be allowed to have one,
 
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