Quote Originally Posted by sear
- First Trump unilaterally pulled the U.S. out of the multi-nation Iran nuclear agreement. And now
"He had the perfect authority to do so. That agreement was never ratified." IN #848
"That agreement was never ratified." IN #848
It was never ratified. That's why I didn't call it a "treaty". I called it an "agreement".
"He had the perfect authority to do so." IN #848
I didn't question his authority. I acknowledged Trump's lack of sound judgement.
We might excuse Trump one excess, as Trump is clearly OJT.
But Trump has done this often enough to have with less than half his term complete, established a pattern of making the U.S. look like an unreliable international partner.
With a pattern like this, breaking multiple agreements, why should other nations bother engaging U.S. in diplomatic negotiations, if we don't adhere to the agreements we make?
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- Trump has reportedly pulled U.S. out of the nuclear agreement Reagan made with Gorbachev on nuclear missiles.
"He didn't. Russia pulled out of the treaty. It no longer exists." IN
I'm not playing that game with you.
When a signatory to a treaty performs an act or acts believed by another signatory to violate the terms of that treaty, that does NOT mean that treaty no longer exists. So you're wrong, again.
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Trump simply isn't stable enough to have been trusted with "the button".
"Has he started nuclear war? No." IN
Your denial is premature.
"The shot heard 'round the world" is often cited as the event that precipitated WWI.
BUT !!
WWI didn't start until after the echos from that "shot heard 'round the world" died down a little.
In any case, the nuclear missile treaty Trump has unilaterally abandoned was widely regarded by experts as a stabilizing influence in our world awash with weapons.
Just because nuclear war hasn't broken out yet doesn't mean Trump's unilateral action hasn't harmed the United States.
Even if nuclear war never results from this, it doesn't mean such fickle leadership style doesn't do serious harm to U.S. international / diplomatic authority, leadership, and power.
Rah Rah Rah for "drain the swamp".
The problem is, if this is Trump's style of "drain the swamp" it's doing more harm than good. Substantially so. And the sanity check on that is the U.S. has become the world's laughing stock. The laughter at President Trump by the U.N. general assembly during Trump's boasting about his administration interrupted Trump's speech. Were it not for "the button" this administration should be considered a farce.
