They said wearing masks is stupid

[QP!]

Masks don't work for covid, period. Their pores are far too large and the size of the virus is far too small. Masks typically aren't worn properly nor are they worn 24/7/365.

Masks absolutely work in the situations i described.

What you are speaking to is prolonged exposure and that is correct as the aerosol part of the breath, the tiny micro drops wil eventually spread out and you will breath them as they go righ thru the mask.

But for short exposure where you are just near a person for a short time, such as a coffee shop line, it is the large drops propelled via coughing, talking and sneezing and how far they travel and how fast that are the bigger threat then the slower build up of the aerosol.

You have to be an idiot to see the sneeze picture i put above and not understand how that spread of breath, done in an instant is not propelling the covid virus out with it. The virus is in that sneeze expellant.

Slowing that spread out of that air, in short exposure so you can leave the area absolutely can work to prevent transmission.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Masks have a place limiting covid like spread.

Where they work is in limiting short exposure to breath and coughing such as you would have in a quick grocery store or coffee shop visit.

Where they do not work (unless N95) is when you will be in proximity to people for hours on end, like in a classroom.

Wrong. They don't work in situations were you potentially have limited exposure. This is because the volume of air, rate of turnover of the air, and lack of proximity work against exposure far more effectively than a mask.

Second, for the vast majority of people, masks are not worn in an effective manner.

Even an N95 mask doesn't work in a situation where prolonged exposure is occurring simply because few people actually know how to wear one properly.

 

[QP!]

Wrong. They don't work in situations were you potentially have limited exposure. This is because the volume of air, rate of turnover of the air, and lack of proximity work against exposure far more effectively than a mask.

Second, for the vast majority of people, masks are not worn in an effective manner.

Even an N95 mask doesn't work in a situation where prolonged exposure is occurring simply because few people actually know how to wear one properly.

Once again you are saying stuff with authority that is absolutely wrong.

You DO NOT get covid AUTOMATICALLY simply because you are in proximity of someone with it.

When it comes to SHORT TERM exposure, which we are talking about the two key factors needed for you to get it from someone you just are brief proximity is TIME and BREATH (expellant) spread.

The mask slows the expellant spread as compared to no mask, meaning you will get slightly more time before that breath reaches and again in SHORT TERM proximity that ABSOLUTELY does give you more chance to avoid that contact.

Rate of air turnover is also key but you have no control over that, and regardless of that the dynamics of the mask still matter. And properly wearing the mask is a given to what i say. Nothing works if not done properly. Saying that is like saying 'scuba gear does not work if not work properly'... duh. But if worn properly it does work.

This is an image of a high speed camera capturing a sneeze with and without masks.

You have to be an idiot to not recognize that the breath of person 1 is in your proximity quicker if you are in short term proximity thus giving you less time to leave the area.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

Masks have a place limiting covid like spread.

Where they work is in limiting short exposure to breath and coughing such as you would have in a quick grocery store or coffee shop visit.

Where they do not work (unless N95) is when you will be in proximity to people for hours on end, like in a classroom.

super gay thoughts.

 

[QP!]

To say a mask would not work, in short term proximity instances is the same as saying distance from a person with covid does not help.

That there is no difference between standing right beside the person as opposed to 5 feet away, as opposed to 20 feet away, for the minute or so you are in the same location as them.

Of course anyone who is not an idiot understands the distance provides TIME before the breath reaches you and thus more chance to leave before catching the covid.

The mask replicates the same benefit, by slowing the breath spread, giving you more TIME.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

Wrong. They don't work in situations were you potentially have limited exposure. This is because the volume of air, rate of turnover of the air, and lack of proximity work against exposure far more effectively than a mask.

Second, for the vast majority of people, masks are not worn in an effective manner.

Even an N95 mask doesn't work in a situation where prolonged exposure is occurring simply because few people actually know how to wear one properly.

they wouldnt stop any serious infection in the population in general, even if "worn properly".

they're strictly karen-bait, you brain dead establishment shill.

vaccines are poison and too much cleanliness destroys the body's ability to generate it's own immune strength.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

To say a mask would not work, in short term proximity instances is the same as saying distance from a person with covid does not help.

That there is no difference between standing right beside the person as opposed to 5 feet away, as opposed to 20 feet away, for the minute or so you are in the same location as them.

Of course anyone who is not an idiot understands the distance provides TIME before the breath reaches you and thus more chance to leave before catching the covid.

The mask replicates the same benefit, by slowing the breath spread, giving you more TIME.

run from the breath.

you're an idiot.

 

[QP!]

run from the breath.

you're an idiot.

if you do not think breath spread matters then you do not think even good air exchange and circulation improvements matter which means you also think @T. A. Gardner is an idiot.

The key to disease spread by breath is it reaching you and you breathing it in. Good air circulation as opposed to bad air circulation just buys you more time by removing the air quicker and exchanging it for air without the breath in it. YOU GET MORE TIME. The same dynamic the mask achieves in a different way.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

if you do not think breath spread matters then you do not think even good air exchange and circulation improvements matter which means you also think @T. A. Gardner is an idiot.

The key to disease spread by breath is it reaching you and you breathing it in. Good air circulation as opposed to bad air circulation just buys you more time by removing the air quicker and exchanging it for air without the breath in it. YOU GET MORE TIME. The same dynamic the mask achieves in a different way.

those two aren't the same, but t.a. is an idiot for being a fascist zionist globalist forever war fuckhole like you.

 

[QP!]

those two aren't the same, but t.a. is an idiot for being a fascist zionist globalist forever war fuckhole like you.

They are not the same but functionally they do the same thing.

Good air exchange in a building versus bad air exchange is what BUYS YOU TIME before the virus in the air reaches you. The better the air exchange the more TIME you can be in proximity.

The EXACT SAME dynamic is at play with regards to TIME, when it comes to mask use and SHORT TIME exposure you might have in a coffee shop or grocery store line.

You have to be completely dense to not understand that a person who is in short proximity to person one above, sneezing with no mask, is at more risk than a person near person 4 who is wearing a mask that slows the quantity and velocity of the breath spread.

The same dynamic is at play with distance. If you are standing right beside a sick person with covid as opposed to standing 10 or 20 feet away in the same room. All of those factors impact the TIME, it takes for the breath to reach you and infect you.

 

[Jerry Mathers]

They are not the same but functionally they do the same thing.

Good air exchange in a building versus bad air exchange is what BUYS YOU TIME before the virus in the air reaches you. The better the air exchange the more TIME you can be in proximity.

The EXACT SAME dynamic is at play with regards to TIME, when it comes to mask use and SHORT TIME exposure you might have in a coffee shop or grocery store line.

You have to be completely dense to not understand that a person who is in short proximity to person one above, sneezing with no mask, is at more risk than a person near person 4 who is wearing a mask that slows the quantity and velocity of the breath spread.

The same dynamic is at play with distance. If you are standing right beside a sick person with covid as opposed to standing 10 or 20 feet away in the same room. All of those factors impact the TIME, it takes for the breath to reach you and infect you.

nah.

one matters, one doesn't.

you're an idiot.

 

[QP!]

nah.

one matters, one doesn't.

you're an idiot.

"...You have to be completely dense to not understand that a person who is in short proximity to person one above, sneezing with no mask, is at more risk than a person near person 4 who is wearing a mask that slows the quantity and velocity of the breath spread...."

 

[Jerry Mathers]

"...You have to be completely dense to not understand that a person who is in short proximity to person one above, sneezing with no mask, is at more risk than a person near person 4 who is wearing a mask that slows the quantity and velocity of the breath spread...."

stfu, Kareny little bitch.

thanks.

 

[gfm7175]

Masks absolutely work in the situations i described.

They really don't.

What you are speaking to is prolonged exposure and that is correct as the aerosol part of the breath, the tiny micro drops wil eventually spread out and you will breath them as they go righ thru the mask.

Just like a chain link fence can't keep out a mosquito, a mask can't keep out a virus.

But for short exposure where you are just near a person for a short time, such as a coffee shop line, it is the large drops propelled via coughing, talking and sneezing and how far they travel and how fast that are the bigger threat then the slower build up of the aerosol.

Regardless, the virus is all over the place in that area. A mask isn't going to save you.

You have to be an idiot to see the sneeze picture i put above and not understand how that spread of breath, done in an instant is not propelling the covid virus out with it. The virus is in that sneeze expellant.

The virus is already all over the place before that sneeze ever happened.

Slowing that spread out of that air, in short exposure so you can leave the area absolutely can work to prevent transmission.

It really doesn't prevent much of anything. The virus is still all over the place and you're still breathing it in, mask or not.

Most people improperly wear and handle masks to begin with... it's gross to imagine what most people are putting right up against their face for multiple hours at a time.

 

[Lionfish]

Stop spitting when you talk.

Stop typing on forums.

 

[QP!]

They really don't.

Just like a chain link fence can't keep out a mosquito, a mask can't keep out a virus.

Regardless, the virus is all over the place in that area. A mask isn't going to save you.

The virus is already all over the place before that sneeze ever happened.

It really doesn't prevent much of anything. The virus is still all over the place and you're still breathing it in, mask or not.

Most people improperly wear and handle masks to begin with... it's gross to imagine what most people are putting right up against their face for multiple hours at a time.

^Stupidity.

If a singular person with covid enters a grocery store or coffee shop you are just about to leave but you have a few moments of proximity to them, then there simply is NO DENYING that a mask provides some protection.

Your chain link fence example fails as the fence does not slow or block the mosquito in any way.

The picture i provide above or ALL of the high speed video capture you can google and see of sneeze liquid spread with and without mask are UNDENYABLE FACT and PROOF that both the quantity and spread of the fluid is slowed. Meaning it will take LONGER to reach you than if they sneezed with no mask.

Your claim is like saying if you are in a store and a person with covid comes in and is 30 feet away from you and you leave never getting near them, that is the same risk as standing beside them for a few minutes in a check out, with no mask.

You have to be stupid to believe that as the person at distance has the benefit of TIME, which means the breath takes longer to reach them and they are gone prior.,

 

[gfm7175]

^Stupidity.

If a singular person

... as opposed to a plural person?

with covid enters a grocery store or coffee shop you are just about to leave but you have a few moments of proximity to them, then there simply is NO DENYING that a mask provides some protection.

A mask really doesn't provide any protection from viruses.

Your chain link fence example fails as the fence does not slow or block the mosquito in any way.

Likewise, a mask does not slow or block the virus in any way.

The picture i provide above or ALL of the high speed video capture you can google and see of sneeze liquid spread with and without mask are UNDENYABLE FACT and PROOF that both the quantity and spread of the fluid is slowed. Meaning it will take LONGER to reach you than if they sneezed with no mask.

Some spittle is not a virus. The mask isn't slowing or blocking viruses in any way. Viruses are already all over in the air everywhere regardless of some spittle ending up on or in a mask. Unless you decide to stop breathing, you are still inhaling viruses, mask or not.

Your claim is like saying if you are in a store and a person with covid comes in and is 30 feet away from you and you leave never getting near them, that is the same risk as standing beside them for a few minutes in a check out, with no mask.

Either way, viruses are all over the place, in the air, everywhere. It doesn't matter "30ft" vs "3ft". Unless that person is purposely sneezing or coughing right in your face, distance really doesn't matter.

You have to be stupid to believe that as the person at distance has the benefit of TIME, which means the breath takes longer to reach them and they are gone prior.,

There is no "TIME" or "longer to reach them". The virus is already in the air, everywhere.

 

[Crepitus]

A mask really doesn't provide any protection from viruses.

Yes, it does. If I take the time to explain why will you actually read and learn or will you just say "nuh-uh" and call me a libtard?

 

[AProudLefty]

It's incredible to think that a chain link fence can stop a mosquito.

It's incredible that you think that's a valid analogy.

 

[QP!]

... as opposed to a plural person?

A mask really doesn't provide any protection from viruses.

Likewise, a mask does not slow or block the virus in any way.

Some spittle is not a virus. The mask isn't slowing or blocking viruses in any way. Viruses are already all over in the air everywhere regardless of some spittle ending up on or in a mask. Unless you decide to stop breathing, you are still inhaling viruses, mask or not.

Either way, viruses are all over the place, in the air, everywhere. It doesn't matter "30ft" vs "3ft". Unless that person is purposely sneezing or coughing right in your face, distance really doesn't matter.

There is no "TIME" or "longer to reach them". The virus is already in the air, everywhere.

A mask does provide provide protection from exhalation of breath and droplets that carry the virus by slowing its velocity and distance of travel.

Just as distance from a person and a good air exchange system does, none will be perfect in preventing virus ladden breath reaching you but they ALL buy you more time before the virus, traveling on your exhalations reaches you.

You have to be an idiot to not understand that standing 30 feet away from someone for a short time is better than standing right beside someone. The reason it is better as the DISTANCE makes the exhalations have to TRAVEL FURTHER and need more TIME to reach you.

Masks have the SAME function in short contact. The exhalation does not TRAVEL AS FAR and does not have as MUCH TIME to reach you.

That is why they both work.

Again you have to be gutter level stupid to not recognize what is core to the 'distance helps' argument which the 'TIME' and 'Distance travel', the virus is impacted by, with distance.