They said wearing masks is stupid

Actually the death rates in solidly red counties were double that in other parts of the countries.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Sometimes the gene pool needs a little chlorine. Since I'm generally against a government harming its citizens, it's best if the citizens take care of the cleaning themselves. :)
 
I used the data for an entire country, Crepitus, I didn't cherry-pick specific county vs county data to be intentionally misleading.

FYI a simple Google search will show you that the average age of rural areas is higher than cities, because young people gravitate towards cities.

For example, in Madison County, Ohio, the median age is less than 21 years old. There are two counties in Ohio with median ages over 50 years old. I can tell you without looking which counties had higher death rates, regardless of the vaccine uptake levels, Crepitus.


And no, there is no real-world data showing that the vaccines were effective.

In Canada our deaths went down into the dbl-digits in both 2020 and 2021, but in 2022 deaths never dropped below 100 during the summer - they were well above 200 for July and August - and it was almost all triple/quadruple-vaxed people that were dying. And again, we had our most covid deaths ever in the year that we were 85% vaxed.

Our gov't stopped giving out the "covid deaths by vax statuts" data in Sept 2022, when 86.3% of covid deaths were occurring among the muti-vaxed, so it's impossible to give out hard numbers for that whole year, but it's very likey that:
  • more multi-vaxed Canadians alone died in 2022 than
  • the total number of Canadians that died of covid in 2020
Think about the fact that we forced people to take that jab to get deaths down, and they went up by almost 30% for 2022 vs 2020.
False.

2020: Approximately 384,536 deaths were caused by or associated with COVID-19. It was the third-leading cause of death nationwide.

2021: The deadliest year of the pandemic, peaking at approximately 460,000 deaths due to the aggressive Delta variant.

2022: Dropped significantly to 244,986 deaths. The age-adjusted COVID-19 death rate plummeted by 47% compared to 2021, causing the virus to fall from the third to the fourth leading cause of death

 
That is a lie. It was fully understood by the medical community that we did indeed need it.
OMG you fkn ret4rd.

Look at these stats from our country after 2 years of covid:
Covid deaths by age in Canada Dec 2021.png
Dec 21 is TWO FULL YEARS of covid deaths.
105 people died in two years from the U-30 group. FYI that's between 15-20M people, while how many of them were already sick with cancer, kidney disease, etc? Covid was clearly NOT a threat to kids.
In the 30-49 group there were 350 deaths a year among another 10M people. FYI that's not in the "FORCE THEM TO VAX!!!!!" range you fking monster.

Wanna see what happened in the next year, after we started vaxing them?
 Covid deeaths by age Nov 7 2022.png
We had 19 deaths among the 19-and-under in the first two years, and then in the one year when they were vaxed, that number shot up to 66.

So that's 19 deaths in 2 years with no vax (Kids here started vaxing in Nov 2021)
47 deaths in 1 year after we started vaxing kids.

That's 2.5x as many deaths in 1/2 the time, after we started vaxing them. FYI that means that they were dying 5x faster after vaxing than before. What a success, hey, genius?

Bottom line:
By looking at the two graphs above you can clearly see that there was NO NEED WHTSOEVER to force young ppl to vax, idiot.
 
OMG you fkn ret4rd.

Look at these stats from our country after 2 years of covid:
View attachment 89654
Dec 21 is TWO FULL YEARS of covid deaths.
105 people died in two years from the U-30 group. FYI that's between 15-20M people, while how many of them were already sick with cancer, kidney disease, etc? Covid was clearly NOT a threat to kids.
In the 30-49 group there were 350 deaths a year among another 10M people. FYI that's not in the "FORCE THEM TO VAX!!!!!" range you fking monster.

Wanna see what happened in the next year, after we started vaxing them?
View attachment 89656
We had 19 deaths among the 19-and-under in the first two years, and then in the one year when they were vaxed, that number shot up to 66.

So that's 19 deaths in 2 years with no vax (Kids here started vaxing in Nov 2021)
47 deaths in 1 year after we started vaxing kids.

That's 2.5x as many deaths in 1/2 the time, after we started vaxing them. FYI that means that they were dying 5x faster after vaxing than before. What a success, hey, genius?

Bottom line:
By looking at the two graphs above you can clearly see that there was NO NEED WHTSOEVER to force young ppl to vax, idiot.
That is merely the effect of Candada's early lockdowns being so effective that it caused their peak to be delayed compared to the US.

This has all been explained, kid.
 
That is merely the effect of Candada's early lockdowns being so effective that it caused their peak to be delayed compared to the US.

This has all been explained, kid.
WCM AKA Matt Dillon, is a lot more fun to play with after 5PM. Jus' sayin'. :)
 
For example, in Madison County, Ohio, the median age is less than 21 years old. There are two counties in Ohio with median ages over 50 years old. I can tell you without looking which counties had higher death rates
The scary part of this age is the people who get the most wrong, are the most sure of themselves.

The median age of Madison County, Ohio is 41.1 years old. That is quite a bit older than 21 years old. That is older than the median age of Ohio or the USA. Rust belt cities, like the ones in Ohio tend to be older, because they are the people left behind.

The youngest county in America is Madison County, IDAHO. It actually has a median age of 23.1, not under 21, but close. Both Madison Counties are right wing, but Madison County, Idaho takes it to another level. The Idaho one is actively against all vaccinations, and all birth controls.

And that is where you theory falls apart. You claim that it is red counties being old that causes the higher death rates. Madison County, Idaho is the youngest county in America, and is extremely right wing.

 
False.

the virus is not just floating in the air everywhere waiting for people to infect.
Yes, it is floating in the air everywhere.
if no one with covid is in an area for a while then there will not be a risk of infection in that space.
So we've established that a person cannot spread a disease that they don't have. Brilliant!
If someone with covid enters a space like a coffee shop and you walk past them as you are leaving you are unlikely to catch it.
Unlikely, but still possible. The virus is in the air everywhere within that coffee shop.
If you are on the other side of the store and leave out a far door and never get near them you are unlikely to get it.
See above.
Covid needs to travel on your expellant (breath, droplets) and a top notch air exchange system is a very good protection as it can remove the breath before it reaches you.
"Remove the breath"?? WTF?? No, the virus is in the air everywhere within that coffee shop.
and that is why masks work for short term exposure.
Masks don't work for viruses. Viruses are far too small and mask pores are far too large. Most people don't handle or wear masks correctly, and nobody wears a mask 24/7/365.
They slow the velocity of the breath and the distance it will travel.
Irrelevant. The virus is still in the air everywhere, regardless.
 
False.

2020: Approximately 384,536 deaths were caused by or associated with COVID-19. It was the third-leading cause of death nationwide.

2021: The deadliest year of the pandemic, peaking at approximately 460,000 deaths due to the aggressive Delta variant.

2022: Dropped significantly to 244,986 deaths. The age-adjusted COVID-19 death rate plummeted by 47% compared to 2021, causing the virus to fall from the third to the fourth leading cause of death

That's the US, dummy. I'm talking about Canada. My own country.

AFAIK, your country didn't give out the "Covid deaths by vax status" data at all. Your medical community played their cards very close to their chests, and only gave out the data that they could tailor to fit their narratives.

We had 15,000 deaths in 2020, 14,000 deaths in 2021, 19,000 deaths in 2022.

Our news channels dropped their covid coverage by about 95% in 2022, while deaths went up by 30% and hospitalizations tripled. If you were watching the news you'd think that covid was 100% over but if you were stacking bodies it was your busiest year by far.

In short:
  1. 30% more deaths
  2. 95% less talk of deaths
Re: covid deaths by vax status... in Canada we gave out all the data for deaths with 0 shots, 1 shot but died before the end of the waiting period, 1 shot plus waiting period, 2 shots, 3 shots and 4 shots.

And people with 3 and 4 shots were the heaviest hitters of all. We didn't have a lot of them, and they weren't included in the stats for very long, but they burst onto the scene with huge numbers, and then Health Canada mysteriously stopped giving out the data. Go figger.

And I'm not exactly singing the praises of Health Canada either, they did their level best to make the data appear misleading as well: their charts always started on Dec 14 2020, regardless of what month they were releasing the newest data for. That made the column with the unvaxed deaths the biggest one on every graph, because it included far more people, for a much longer time period, with data for more flu seasons in it.

Eg:
  • Dec 14 2020 to May 16th 2020
  • Dec 14 2020 to Oct 19th 2020
  • Dec 14 2020 to May 27th 2021
  • Dec 14 2020 to July 25th 2022 etc
That first flu season, when 35-40M Canadians were unvaxed and covid was still a novel virus for almost everyone, was always included with the new month's data.

Imagine tracking all the deaths from the flu for tens of millions of people over 6 months of flu season, Dec to May, and then putting that number on a chart beside a column representing only 0.3M people that had flu shots, but only for May, when flu season is coming to its end...

So when they put the data for Sept of 2022 out:
  • the column on the left showed all the unvaxed that had ever died over a nearly 2-yr period, including those first few months when that group had 40M people in it during flu season
  • the column on the right had all the 4x-vaxed deaths, but there were only a few people that even were 4x-vaxed in our whole country, and they just had a few summer months to die :LOL:
Guess which column was bigger: the one representing tens of millions of people for two years, including two full flu seasons, or the one representing a far smaller group of people during one summer. Take as long as you want.

Despite all that, the 4x-vaxed put up big numbers. There were already more than 1,000 of them, compared to 10,000 multi-vaxed.

Dude, all the unvaxed over 2 years and 2 flu seasons vs 4x-vaxed from one summer, 10 to 1. It looks visually damning for the unvaxed at first glance, but if you have a clue how many man-days each column of that chart actually represents, and the relative risk-level for those days, it was extremely bad for the jabs... They were dying quickly outside of flu-season, when almost no one dies of covid... In 2020 and 2021 almost no one died of covid. The vast majority of all of our summer-season covid deaths were among 3x and 4x-vaxed.

That might not mean anything to you, because your confirmation bias will block out what you don't want to acknowledge, but just imagine if we all vaxed, and there was no control group to look at...

Then Fauci and co could all just say: "The only reason that any of you are still alive is because you all took the jabs!!!! You would all be dead if not for the jabs! Now you need another one, because an even stronger strain just came out!!!" And what would you do at that point? You could never point to millions of people like me, who were 50+ yrs old and 30 lbs overweight, but never got very sick from covid... You would believe that you had to get the juice to survive. And what would the asking price be for that little vial of "vax or certain death"?

We would all be stuck on yearly covid jabs forever. The hysteria would never go away. The price would be out of control. You're welcome.
 
Yes, it is floating in the air everywhere.

So we've established that a person cannot spread a disease that they don't have. Brilliant!

Unlikely, but still possible. The virus is in the air everywhere within that coffee shop.

See above.

"Remove the breath"?? WTF?? No, the virus is in the air everywhere within that coffee shop.

Masks don't work for viruses. Viruses are far too small and mask pores are far too large. Most people don't handle or wear masks correctly, and nobody wears a mask 24/7/365.

Irrelevant. The virus is still in the air everywhere, regardless.
Nope virus is not in the air everywhere and never was. Not in concentrations that can infect others. It takes time and proximity to build to that. You are simply wrong.
 
That is merely the effect of Candada's early lockdowns being so effective that it caused their peak to be delayed compared to the US.

This has all been explained, kid.
1) There's more than ONE THING that can be extracted from that graph you lying weasel, and what you said wasn't one of them :LOL: Plus it was retarded.


2) FYI the population of an entire Canadian province rides the NYC subway every day... Out of 10 provinces and 3 territories, only Quebec and Ontario have populations that are substantially larger than the population of the NYC subway. 13 provinces/territories have either approximately the same population or much smaller, than the number of people riding your NYC subway every day.

The NY metro area has half of Canada's population, jammed into only 10,000 sq m.

The 15 busiest airports in NA are all American. You have 13 airports that handle more than twice as much traffic as our 2nd busiest one.

FYI from an epidemiological standpoint, NYC in lockdown mode is still a much juicier target for viruses than a wide-open Canada.


3) The MAIN thing to be determined from that chart is that "kids and young adults were not at risk from covid", period, and you're a complete idiot for not knowing that:
  • Their exposure is far greater than that of elderly people, due to their propensity for spending time in classes, at work, playing sports, attending large events, etc.
  • Their population was quadruple that of septuagenarians and octogenarians
  • Their deaths were 1% of the much smaller group

If you were trying to prove how much of a dumb cultist you are with that one post, you frickin' nailed it.
 
The scary part of this age is the people who get the most wrong, are the most sure of themselves.

The median age of Madison County, Ohio is 41.1 years old. That is quite a bit older than 21 years old. That is older than the median age of Ohio or the USA. Rust belt cities, like the ones in Ohio tend to be older, because they are the people left behind.

The youngest county in America is Madison County, IDAHO. It actually has a median age of 23.1, not under 21, but close. Both Madison Counties are right wing, but Madison County, Idaho takes it to another level. The Idaho one is actively against all vaccinations, and all birth controls.

And that is where you theory falls apart. You claim that it is red counties being old that causes the higher death rates. Madison County, Idaho is the youngest county in America, and is extremely right wing.

I don't know what counties were cherry-picked for his alleged "stats", Walt, he provided no cite, so I was just giving examples of how avg age can vary from county to county. Does that make sense?

And since he provides no evidence or cites for his stats, everything he wrote is mostly just bullshit that he remembers from watching CNN while pricking his Trump voodoo doll anyways.

Sorry if I confused Madison Idaho with Madison Ohio, if I even did that, I'm probably not the first person to ever confuse Ohio and Idaho.

Also, the stats I got for the average ages were from Google AI search, so if you got them from somewhere else, that explains the slight discrepancy. Maybe they were taken from different years, or maybe one stat is from the actual administrative county and another is from electoral "county", which doesn't follow the exact same boundaries, or maybe the electoral county was gerrymandered from the time that you got your stat and I got mine. My point was 100% factually accurate even if a stat I cited wasn't the exact same one that you pulled up.

In any event, none of that matters, because all I was doing was proving to you that "county vs county" is just BS, because there are so many variables between counties that differ so greatly that it truly is an apples vs oranges comparison.

Lastly, Trump was the one responsible for allowing the vaccine to be given out on an emergency basis, no one else, so it wasn't a "red vs blue" vax. It was actually a jab that Biden and Harris both said that they would never take, on account of that fact. Remember?


I'm just showing you that it's possible to choose very young or very healthy counties and match them up with elderly counties or counties with care homes, etc.

Do you understand that?

Also, rural counties across the country have higher average ages, period.


And if you think that governments, government agencies or even companies that just provide stats don't lie, think again. Look at all the stats about crime and terrorism from the Dems and FBI, or from our gov't here in Canada. It's all pure BS. Look at the covid deaths stats from NY... the governor there (Cuomo) was caught red-handed fudging the covid numbers.

Statista is a company that just compiles and shares stats as their main business, and they lie. They put the Canadian "covid deaths by vax status" data on a graph and then explicitly lied about it right on that same page. You can see their graph and their lie at the same time with one eye closed ffs. I even emailed them to point out their blatant and atrocious error and it remains that way until this very day, afaik. It was there for a year or more.

If all those people lie, why don't you think that the people who profit from the vaccines don't lie about their stats, their efficacy, their danger level, etc?

Did they lie to you, Walt?
  • Were the jabs safe, or did they kill people, Walt?
  • Did the jabs prevent you from even getting sick, or did tens of thousands of Canadians die after being "fully protected"?
  • Did the jabs prevent you from giving covid to granny, Walt?

You know that you were lied to over and over and over and over, Walt. You just were, and that's a fact that you can deny out loud, yet you fully understand that it's true.
 
1) There's more than ONE THING that can be extracted from that graph you lying weasel, and what you said wasn't one of them :LOL: Plus it was retarded.


2) FYI the population of an entire Canadian province rides the NYC subway every day... Out of 10 provinces and 3 territories, only Quebec and Ontario have populations that are substantially larger than the population of the NYC subway. 13 provinces/territories have either approximately the same population or much smaller, than the number of people riding your NYC subway every day.

The NY metro area has half of Canada's population, jammed into only 10,000 sq m.

The 15 busiest airports in NA are all American. You have 13 airports that handle more than twice as much traffic as our 2nd busiest one.

FYI from an epidemiological standpoint, NYC in lockdown mode is still a much juicier target for viruses than a wide-open Canada.


3) The MAIN thing to be determined from that chart is that "kids and young adults were not at risk from covid", period, and you're a complete idiot for not knowing that:
  • Their exposure is far greater than that of elderly people, due to their propensity for spending time in classes, at work, playing sports, attending large events, etc.
  • Their population was quadruple that of septuagenarians and octogenarians
  • Their deaths were 1% of the much smaller group

If you were trying to prove how much of a dumb cultist you are with that one post, you frickin' nailed it.
Don't be stupider than you have to be, kid.

And since you, a dumbass tRumpling, has said the "C" word:

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Don't be stupider than you have to be, kid.
Listen up, dummy...

The graph showed that we had:
  • 25,000 deaths aged 70 and over
  • 300 deaths among 40 and under
and you tried to say ^^that^ was somehow evidence that "Candada's early lockdowns were so effective that it caused their peak to be delayed compared to the US" :LOL:

You are an idiot. Not just a bit of an idiot, you don't know your own ass from a hole in the ground.

Have a good day, crepitus.
 
That's it? People touching their faces proves that masks don't work? :rofl2:
At the beginning of covid, our Cdn gov't advised us that wearing masks was worse than not, then they shipped 16 tons of masks and gloves to China to fight covid (WTF, right?) from our national emergency stockpile, then they said we had to wear them, but we had no N95s left here, so our hospitals were short.

No one in this thread can top the stupidity of the Trudeau gov't. Sorry if that breaks your streak, Crepitus.
 
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