This trial goes one of two ways...

The Republicans could refuse to allow witnesses next week and then vote to dismiss, that would end it. The Republicans may likely pay a big price for that., and I suspect some are unwilling to support it, will there be four who are unwilling? This may also be what the Democrats secretly hope will happen, setting up the argument going into the election that Republicans can’t be trusted to protect us from a radical and unstable Trump. That argument won’t work on the die hard Trumppers, but what about the moderates?

Then there is option 2. Less likely than what I’ve outlined above, but it’s possible 4 Republicans vote to allow witnesses, like Bolton and Mulvaney. The result would be a months long protracted slug fest in and out of the courts, with an unpredictable result sometime much closer to November. The effect on the election would by much less predictable. The unpredictability for both sides is why I think they will go for option one.

The American people deserve, either way it swings the pendulum, to have all the facts, and thus we deserve option two! The Senators crave preservation of their power so we will more likely get option 1.

It will be (and with my metaphysical certitude guarantee), option 1. The numbers will be gamed out so this or that moderate CYA Republican can vote for witnesses, but it will fail by a single vote.
Republicans want it over yesterday so they can get about the business of burying their treason from the public consciousness as quickly as possible.
 
Hi Damocles,

I think you are wrong. It can go a third way. It can end with a vote to acquit after a hearing. In about a month.

Why wait?

They all want to vote for that already.

They will only pretend to look at evidence, if they even vote to have any.

Oh, never mind.

We all know the answer.

They have to pretend to have a whole trial in order to satisfy themselves it wasn't a sham.
 
incorrect. SCOTUS would have given the case priority because of the nature and time sensitivity of compelling POTUS (or not)

the House did a hit and run job and wants the Senate to bail them out


No, you are ignorant of how it works. It would go to the local Court first, there would be a months long briefing schedule, then a ruling, then an appeal to the Circuit Court with a briefing schedule and a ruling, then it would take weeks for the Supreme Court to agree to take it, then another briefing schedule and oral arguments then a ruling. That would take 6 months at a very minimum.
 
exactly. Garud is simply using standard left wing 'knowledge'. He says something and pretends it is a fact, no matter how moronic it sounds.


No, you are ignorant of how it works. It would go to the local Court first, there would be a months long briefing schedule, then a ruling, then an appeal to the Circuit Court with a briefing schedule and a ruling, then it would take weeks for the Supreme Court to agree to take it, then another briefing schedule and oral arguments then a ruling. That would take 6 months at a very minimum.
 
The Good news. There is a case before the Supreme Court currently, that is looking at the Electoral System and it is starting to look like the Supreme Court is going to finally rule that the Electoral College is contradictory to the Constitution. It will require an Amendment and a president's approval to fix it. Not gonna' happen until WE vote the scumbags out of the Senate and WHITE HOUSE!

NOW I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU THE INCENTIVE TO VOTE!

Are you implying I don't vote? My people died for the right for me to vote.......I will never sit out a vote and I will never vote for a republican.

Why do you think republicans cheat? Because they know they cannot get the Black vote. Why do you think they suppress the Black vote? Because they know WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM.

So yea......voting doesn't do shit when they are allowed to continue to cheat decade after decade.


The supreme court is a joke........stacked with conservative judges.......just like this impeachment hearing being heard by a conservative judge.

You guys need to wake up and stop thinking republicans will do the right thing. They are not human.
 
Are you implying I don't vote? My people died for the right for me to vote.......I will never sit out a vote and I will never vote for a republican.

Why do you think republicans cheat? Because they know they cannot get the Black vote. Why do you think they suppress the Black vote? Because they know WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM.

So yea......voting doesn't do shit when they are allowed to continue to cheat decade after decade.


The supreme court is a joke........stacked with conservative judges.......just like this impeachment hearing being heard by a conservative judge.

You guys need to wake up and stop thinking republicans will do the right thing. They are not human.

I agree with everything you said- except that voting doesn't do shit!

Voting is what elected Obama isn't it?

Well- There you go! I appreciate you for doing your National Duty and voting!
 
I agree with everything you said- except that voting doesn't do shit!

Voting is what elected Obama isn't it?

Well- There you go! I appreciate you for doing your National Duty and voting!

They, meaning racist republican white men, didn't think President Obama was going to win. In fact, lots of whites didn't think he was going to win. Many sat out.

dump is the result of that.

How long have Blacks been voting against republicans only to still have them in office?

1 person 1 vote is the only fair way to hold elections.
 
They, meaning racist republican white men, didn't think President Obama was going to win. In fact, lots of whites didn't think he was going to win. Many sat out.

dump is the result of that.

How long have Blacks been voting against republicans only to still have them in office?

1 person 1 vote is the only fair way to hold elections.

The Electoral College is on it's way out! 2020 will be the last of it!
 
What are the 4 ways the Constitution can be amended?
(1) Both houses propose an amendment with a two-thirds vote, and three-fourths of the state legislatures approve. Twenty-six of the 27 amendments were approved in this manner. (2) Both houses propose an amendment with a two-thirds vote, and three-fourths of the states approve the amendment via ratifying conventions.

The Constitution, then, spells out four paths for an amendment: Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state conventions (never used) Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state legislatures (never used) Proposal by Congress, ratification by state conventions (used once)

Lots of luck with getting a two-thirds vote of the Congress on anything...the color of the sky.

It won’t happen.
 
In a case before the Supreme Court right now, the Supreme Court announced that the Electoral College is unconstitutional!

No, it most certainly did not.

“This case gives the Court the rare opportunity to decide a constitutional question related to presidential selection in a non-emergency setting,” he wrote.

The Washington case was brought by three presidential electors who cast their ballots for Colin Powell, the former secretary of state under President George W. Bush. The electors were each fined $1,000 under state law, which they have said in court papers appears to be the first fine of its type in American history.

The Washington Supreme Court upheld the fines in an 8-1 vote that rejected the electors’ constitutional objections, including the claim that their First Amendment rights were violated.”

The Supreme Court has not spoken...the decision is expected in June of this year.

Do you ever get anything right, Snowflake?
 
Are you implying I don't vote? My people died for the right for me to vote.......I will never sit out a vote and I will never vote for a republican.

Why do you think republicans cheat? Because they know they cannot get the Black vote. Why do you think they suppress the Black vote? Because they know WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM.

So yea......voting doesn't do shit when they are allowed to continue to cheat decade after decade.


The supreme court is a joke........stacked with conservative judges.......just like this impeachment hearing being heard by a conservative judge.

You guys need to wake up and stop thinking republicans will do the right thing. They are not human.
You don't speak for all black people
 
In a case before the Supreme Court right now, the Supreme Court announced that the Electoral College is unconstitutional!

The case is about whether presidential electors are bound to support the popular vote winner. Some states require that they vote for the popular vote winner. Some don't
 
The case is about whether presidential electors are bound to support the popular vote winner. Some states require that they vote for the popular vote winner. Some don't

True, but how do you stop delegates from changing course in mid-stream? Federally? It is a whole new area of Constitutional Crisis, brought about by the Electoral College, and the Supreme Court will have no other choice but to rule the Electoral College as unconstitutional. DING DING! Most Constitutional Scholars have known this all along and have said so. Well, everyone I know of, except TED CRUZE!

That is where they leave it. It will be up to the legislative branch and the pen of the president combined to actually amend the Constitution to force states to use their popular votes- LIKE WE VOTE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THE PRESIDENT- BY POPULAR VOTE.
 
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