Trump and Putin: Ukraine’s future is not theirs to bargain away

Guno צְבִי

Guno צְבִי

We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
Russia wants America and China to decide Ukraine’s future without Kyiv. Europe must challenge this dangerous return to diplomacy of the strong for the strong.

Does Putin know exactly how to play Donald Trump? The history of chummy phone calls, high-profile meetings and attempts to bring Russia in from the cold certainly suggests that Moscow’s thuggish ruler has a hold on this American president. If Mr Trump agrees to negotiate Ukraine’s future with Mr Putin and China’s Xi Jinping without Ukraine at the table, he will have handed the Russian leader a victory before talks begin. The message will be that strongmen are ruling the world and determining the fate of weaker nations.




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Editorial: Russia wants America and China to decide Ukraine’s future without Kyiv. Europe must challenge this dangerous return to diplomacy of the strong for the strong
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Ukraine has the right to determine its future. That right cannot be waved away by a self-serving Russian proposal, however much it indulges Mr Trump’s belief that world affairs should be settled by powerful men. The scales are falling from European eyes. Trumpian America is raising doubts about whether it will help deter aggression or even honour its Nato commitments. If Washington now rewards Moscow and pressures Ukraine to accept a raw deal, it would be a betrayal. European governments would wonder where America might be in the future when their own security is threatened.
 
Guno צְבִי said:
Russia wants America and China to decide Ukraine’s future without Kyiv. Europe must challenge this dangerous return to diplomacy of the strong for the strong.

Does Putin know exactly how to play Donald Trump? The history of chummy phone calls, high-profile meetings and attempts to bring Russia in from the cold certainly suggests that Moscow’s thuggish ruler has a hold on this American president. If Mr Trump agrees to negotiate Ukraine’s future with Mr Putin and China’s Xi Jinping without Ukraine at the table, he will have handed the Russian leader a victory before talks begin. The message will be that strongmen are ruling the world and determining the fate of weaker nations.




www.theguardian.com

The Guardian view on Trump and Putin: Ukraine’s future is not theirs to bargain away | Editorial

Editorial: Russia wants America and China to decide Ukraine’s future without Kyiv. Europe must challenge this dangerous return to diplomacy of the strong for the strong
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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He was head of the KGB

he runs circles around Trump

And has Epstein dirt and or others things on trump
 
Guno צְבִי said:
Ukraine has the right to determine its future. That right cannot be waved away by a self-serving Russian proposal, however much it indulges Mr Trump’s belief that world affairs should be settled by powerful men. The scales are falling from European eyes. Trumpian America is raising doubts about whether it will help deter aggression or even honour its Nato commitments. If Washington now rewards Moscow and pressures Ukraine to accept a raw deal, it would be a betrayal. European governments would wonder where America might be in the future when their own security is threatened.
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As long as the Orange one holds office

Elect a Democratic president

All changes
 
Let’s remember

When Russia hacked into the DNC

they also hacked into the RNC

Russia has all the dirt on all of them

There didn’t turn out to be much dirt in the DNC that was useful to Russia


But they hit the mother lode in the RNC files
 
And the Russians picked which party to use for blackmail and which party to make look silly


All the good dirt was in the Republican captures

They want to help them win so they could control them with blackmail


That’s why they never outed any of the Republican info they stole
 
Oh and it’s also why so many sitting Republicans retired before Trump took control

They wanted out

They didn’t want their dirt exposed by trump when they refused to do his bidding

If they were gone and stayed quiet

They were left alone
 
Alexander of The Duran today says that this idea of a Putin/Xi/Trump meeting to decide Ukraine, which is what the UK piece is about, is an Empire idea.....they hope that if it happens Xi will pressure the Russians to stop in Ukraine. The America lie about it being a Russian idea is because this is a common Empire tactic, to claim that the other side proposed what they want making harder for the Resistance to refuse to do it.

The Russians and the Chinese are blood brothers in their resistance to the Demonic Empire....a meeting might take place but there is no daylight between the Russians and the Chinese......they know that they either hang together or they hang separately....and that the plan has long been to take out Russia first and then come for the Chinese.
 
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Sasha is Croatian....but make no mistake he is still pissed about the Empires illegal assault on Yugoslavia.

For which the Brits were prime movers.
 
Proactive defense was NATO's argument for bombing Yugoslavia.......but even though this is way way way more justified when the Russians make the same argument re dealing with the NATO army in Ukraine the Empire puts up the hand.

Do as I say not as I do being a signature of this nasty dark age.

Bend Over Fuckers.......this is going to hurt.

Performance Matters Here.

OOPS.
 
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