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Sailor said:
No you have not. At all. Not even remotely. Keep trying though if it makes you feel better.
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Facts do not care about your feelings.

You make claims and statements completely unsupported by facts.

I make statements backed up by data and facts and you do not even engage it and just offer back your statement and feelings.
 
martin said:
Because tax revenues are based on earned income and residents of blue states produce more and therefore earn more income than do residents of red states. It's odd a member of a political forum doesn't already know this.
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I know that better than you Zippy. Now what happens to a blue state when all federal infrastructure, contracts, payrolls, etc disappears from that state?
 
martin said:
Because tax revenues are based on earned income and residents of blue states produce more and therefore earn more income than do residents of red states. It's odd a member of a political forum doesn't already know this.
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his "feelings" do not allow him to accept it.
 
QP! said:
Facts do not care about your feelings.

You make claims and statements completely unsupported by facts.

I make statements backed up by data and facts and you do not even engage it and just offer back your statement and feelings.
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You have yet to post any! Hell, you cannot even remember what biased question you asked Google AI.
 
Sailor said:
I know that better than you Zippy. Now what happens to a blue state when all federal infrastructure, contracts, payrolls, etc disappears from that state?
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oh here is what happens. That one is easy. NEXT.

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If all federal spending suddenly disappeared, both red and blue states would suffer severe economic shocks. However, data shows that red states would face a far more devastating collapse.

Why the Argument Fails
  • Gross vs. Net Dependence: Blue states like California and New York receive massive absolute amounts of federal money simply because they have huge populations and economies. However, they pay far more into the federal system than they take out. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • The Federal Deficit Shock: If all federal funding and federal taxes vanished tomorrow, blue states would suddenly stop sending trillions of dollars to Washington. They could implement state-level taxes to recapture that money locally, allowing them to fund their own infrastructure, payrolls, and contracts.
  • The Red State Budget Gap: Red states cannot do this. Because they receive more federal dollars than they pay in taxes, removing the federal government leaves them with a massive funding deficit that their local economies do not generate enough tax revenue to cover. [1]

What Actually Happens to Each State Type

Economic ImpactIn a Blue State (e.g., California)In a Red State (e.g., Mississippi)
Loss of Federal CashSevere localized pain (e.g., military bases, research universities).Systemic collapse of public services, healthcare, and infrastructure.
Tax Capital RetainedMassive. Trillions of dollars stay within the state borders.Minimal. Very little federal tax burden is lifted from residents.
Recovery CapabilityHigh. State can easily tax retained wealth to replace federal programs.Low. Local tax base is too small to replace lost federal funding.

The argument in the quote confuses receiving federal money with being net-dependent on federal money


. While a blue state would experience immediate disruption from a loss of federal contracts, it possesses the economic engine and surplus wealth to absorb the blow and rebuild. Most red states lack the local tax base to do the same.
 
Sailor said:
You have yet to post any! Hell, you cannot even remember what biased question you asked Google AI.
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And yet i cited the biased question i asked twice and you are just too stupid to understand what you read. For a third time i merely quoted what you said in that post above and asked the AI to 'fact check it'.

And also all the links are there. Others can click on them and see the studies they connect to so your lie will not save you from that.
 
martin said:
Keeping things simple:

"In the federal tax system, wealthier blue (Democratic-leaning) states generally pay significantly more in federal tax revenue than they receive in federal spending. Conversely, many red (Republican-leaning) states have lower average taxable incomes and receive more in federal expenditures than they contribute in taxes."

Google AI
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Facts are a bitch .....in fact in this criminal enterprise at the Whitehouse they are forbidden. If it flows from his mouth it is gospel........
 
QP! said:
oh here is what happens. That one is easy. NEXT.

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If all federal spending suddenly disappeared, both red and blue states would suffer severe economic shocks. However, data shows that red states would face a far more devastating collapse.

Why the Argument Fails
  • Gross vs. Net Dependence: Blue states like California and New York receive massive absolute amounts of federal money simply because they have huge populations and economies. However, they pay far more into the federal system than they take out. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • The Federal Deficit Shock: If all federal funding and federal taxes vanished tomorrow, blue states would suddenly stop sending trillions of dollars to Washington. They could implement state-level taxes to recapture that money locally, allowing them to fund their own infrastructure, payrolls, and contracts.
  • The Red State Budget Gap: Red states cannot do this. Because they receive more federal dollars than they pay in taxes, removing the federal government leaves them with a massive funding deficit that their local economies do not generate enough tax revenue to cover. [1]

What Actually Happens to Each State Type

Economic ImpactIn a Blue State (e.g., California)In a Red State (e.g., Mississippi)
Loss of Federal CashSevere localized pain (e.g., military bases, research universities).Systemic collapse of public services, healthcare, and infrastructure.
Tax Capital RetainedMassive. Trillions of dollars stay within the state borders.Minimal. Very little federal tax burden is lifted from residents.
Recovery CapabilityHigh. State can easily tax retained wealth to replace federal programs.Low. Local tax base is too small to replace lost federal funding.

The argument in the quote confuses receiving federal money with being net-dependent on federal money


. While a blue state would experience immediate disruption from a loss of federal contracts, it possesses the economic engine and surplus wealth to absorb the blow and rebuild. Most red states lack the local tax base to do the same.
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Because I know you consistently prove you can't read nor comprehend anything you post that translates into much, much higher taxes and lower services in blue states. You know, the ones already losing companies and populations due to high taxes. Red states, already enjoying the increase in their state coffers due to this would just grow even more economically. My go are you stupid. I mean that in a good way....
 
QP! said:
And yet i cited the biased question i asked twice and you are just too stupid to understand what you read. For a third time i merely quoted what you said in that post above and asked the AI to 'fact check it'.

And also all the links are there. Others can click on them and see the studies they connect to so your lie will not save you from that.
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Really? Must have missed that. Post it one more time. Just the question.
 
Sailor said:
I know that better than you Zippy. Now what happens to a blue state when all federal infrastructure, contracts, payrolls, etc disappears from that state?
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If you knew it you wouldn't be coming off as a complete dumbbell. Your question is basically how dependent are blue states on federal contracts?

I don't know. Let's ask AI: "Blue states generally show low relative dependence on federal support compared to red states. Analyses of fiscal data (including 2024 metrics from WalletHub) indicate that high-income, Democratic-leaning "donor states" send significantly more tax revenue to Washington than they receive back in federal funding or contract dependency. [1, 2, 3]"
 
Sailor said:
For shame on you Lionfish! Don't you know every liberal on this board goes to every Trump cabinet and security meetings? Obviously they all hold positions in our higher goverment. CIA, NSA, War Dept etc. One of them is Secret Service. Ask them. They will tell you. They have access to information that would boogle the average Americans mind. And I have to admit if Trump would just listen to their expert advice all the world's problems would not exist. How foolish of him.....
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Between Guano, Crypuss, Marty, and Karen, Trump's cabinet needs no one else.
 
martin said:
If you knew it you wouldn't be coming off as a complete dumbbell. Your question is basically how dependent are blue states on federal contracts?

I don't know. Let's ask AI: "Blue states generally show low relative dependence on federal support compared to red states. Analyses of fiscal data (including 2024 metrics from WalletHub) indicate that high-income, Democratic-leaning "donor states" send significantly more tax revenue to Washington than they receive back in federal funding or contract dependency. [1, 2, 3]"
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Is that a fact? The average blue state would lose 20 to 25% of federal monies flowing into those states.
 
Sailor said:
Is that a fact? The average blue state would lose 20 to 25% of federal monies flowing into those states.
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If you want to show it's not a fact you need something better than your half ass opinion. Blue states could lose more than 25% of federal funds and still be far more productive than the Mississipi's, Alabama's and West Virginia's of America.
 
martin said:
If you want to show it's not a fact you need something better than your half ass opinion. Blue states could lose more than 25% of federal funds and still be far more productive than the Mississipi's, Alabama's and West Virginia's of America.
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Feel free to prove that.
 
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