Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
they wont be included in apportioning representation however.
that a trick and fuck you.
Trump wants to drop illegal aliens from US census count
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that a trick and fuck you.
They are NOT slaves so they are "free persons." Your only argument can be either they are slaves or they are not people. Both of those arguments are delusional.
People overseas are NOT domiciled in a state.
When were POWs being held in the US and counted in the decennial census?
No. There isn't. The Constitution says apportionment shall be to the states according to their respective numbers, "which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons." Either they are not persons are they are not free. Those are the only categories you could apply to them.
It is you that is uneducated. Tell us where the Constitution says only the persons that are citizens should count toward apportionment. In fact the Constitution says the opposite of that since it requires the counting of persons that are not citizens by counting slaves as 3/5 of a person.
Hopefully ICE searches them out and deports them. ALL of them.
And equally hopefully, fat frowzy frump Fuck Face Fowl will give herself an embolism weeping over the fate of her beloved illegals.
Who the hell said anything about illegals being slaves?
My argument is about them being in this country illegally,
which is a federal crime. Arrest and deport. ALL of them!
And equally hopefully, fat frowzy frump Fuck Face Fowl will give herself an embolism weeping over the fate of her beloved illegals.
Maybe Fowl should take a few illegals in, house, feed and medicate them too. She can afford it...
I doubt she will. Besides, even illegals have standards. Imagine the smell.
Can she?
You did when you claimed they weren't free. The only way they can NOT be a free person under the Constitution is if they are slaves.
The Constitution says all "free persons" are to be counted. Not counting all free persons is unconstitutional.
T. A. Gardner
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I've gone through this before. For every dollar illegals contribute to the economy they cost Americans something like $5 to $10. They are not a net positive for America.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
My position is they should be counted, and like POW's, since they are not citizens they should not be counted for apportionment of congressional seats as they are not represented by congress being foreign nationals. That's how the "Indians thing worked." That's how POW's didn't count for that. That seems a fair interpretation of intent of the law. Everybody gets counted but only those that are citizens count for apportionment of congressional seats.
The Democrats don't want that for obvious reasons, just as they didn't when they ran slave holding states. They needed the numbers to get more seats in Congress. If illegals didn't count for apportionment, then California alone loses something like 5 seats. That would be a disaster for Democrats, and Democrats alone.
Even the ones that who work in the hospitality industry, that your #FatFascistFelon excused from deportation? BTW, can you tell us where the majority of Trump's properties' income derives from?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
All of them. As for Trump's properties. I doubt that income from them is coming from illegal aliens paying to stay at one or do whatever it is you do at one. I doubt many have that kind of cash lying about.
You don't get to claim that is the intent of the US Constitution. One only needs to read the actual words to see the intent. They didn't intend to not count non-citizens. The count is everyone but two exceptions, Indians not taxed and the 3/5th rule for slaves.
California loses 5 seats? Based on what math? I just ran the numbers using 2025 populations minus the estimated 2.3 million undocumented in CA and they only lose 2 seats.
Keep in mind the apportionment would be based on 2020 census if redone today and subtracting the estimated undocumented, only 3 states would lose 1 seat, California, Florida and Texas. Idaho, Ohio and Michigan would each gain a seat.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The exceptions I claimed actually occurred. So you are wrong based on historical usage.
California Could Lose 5 Congressional Seats in 2030 Apportionment - The Census Project
Election data provider Decision Desk predicted that California will �lose
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What Excluding Undocumented Immigrants From the Census Would Change
The U.S. Constitution requires a national census every ten years for one fundamental purpose: to determine how political power is allocated among states in the House of Representatives. This process, called apportionment, is at the core of American representative democracy. Yet for decades, a...
govfacts.org
The apportionment in 2030 with the lose of illegals could mean up to 5 seats taken from California. New York and Illinois would also lose seats with illegals gone.
Can't without a constitutional amenement.
Trump administration wants to drop all illegal immigrants from US census
The Trump administration proposed excluding undocumented and temporary immigrants from the US census, counting only citizens and permanent residents.nypost.com
What do you think about that?
You and I will never see a lefty put their own money where their big mouths are. Never.