Trump with no plan for vaccinations

Phantasmal said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...0-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-day-1535364?amp=1

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...al-virus-treatment-he-hails-for-his-recovery/

Remember when Trump said the military could dispense 200,000 doses a day!
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/politics/biden-trump-vaccine/index.html
Proactive manufacturing of a vaccine through Operation Warp Speed, the name given to the White House's program to deliver 300 million vaccine doses by the end of the year, could trim the timeline by a few months, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. By investing hundreds of millions of dollars in producing a vaccine before clinical trials are complete helps prevent a delay in it reaching the American public.
 
Port Tack said:
It is not surprising that trump has no plan to get the vaccine into peoples arms. Once again it's ship it to the states and let them worry about it. Why not bypass all the bullshit and have the US military transport it around the country with teams administering the vaccine to the public at pre-determined locations. The US army should be training persons to administer the vaccine and bypass the bureaucratic bullshit involved with transfer to states. Start with at hospitals and nursing homes if they are to be vaccinated first but let the military do it. Far more efficient and faster.
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Does Joe need a medical person to come and show him how to draw a dose of medicine out of a bottle with a syringe lol?

Take a 3cc syringe armed with an 18 gauge needle; then stick the pointy end into the rubberized center of the bottle cap; hold the bottle up in the air with the syringe beneath it; then pull back slowly on the plunger and be careful not to pull any air in with it because it’s bad form to give your patient an air embolus.

Also, unless you want to piss the patient off, swap the 18 gauge needle out for a 27 gauge needle before you inject it.

There ya go, Joe. That’s the proper way to deliver it.
 
Walt said:
It needs mixing, and other complex issues. And there are few doctors, so having them have to do it would be extremely expensive.
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I’m not a doctor and I mixed stuff all the time lol.

Just get the vaccine delivered and the medical people will take care of the rest.
 
Darth Omar said:
Just get the vaccine delivered and the medical people will take care of the rest.
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Yeah, that is not going to happen. No drug company on earth will just deliver a medication, and allow random "medical people" to just guess at a dosage, and procedure. It would be a sure fire way to kill millions. The drug companies do not need that sort of trouble.
 
Walt said:
Yeah, that is not going to happen. No drug company on earth will just deliver a medication, and allow random "medical people" to just guess at a dosage, and procedure. It would be a sure fire way to kill millions. The drug companies do not need that sort of trouble.
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I’ve concluded you don’t know what you’re talking about, Alter-Walter lol.
 
Darth Omar said:
I’ve concluded you don’t know what you’re talking about, Alter-Walter lol.
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You claim to be a fired "medical person", but have never heard of a standard medical protocol? In medicine, you do not just do what you feel like. You follow a standard treatment, which was developed. trump is blocking the drug companies from a total deployment, including the training that goes with it, because he thinks that "medical people" can just figure it out. Well, the drug companies and the doctors are not going to do that.
 
Walt said:
You claim to be a fired "medical person", but have never heard of a standard medical protocol? In medicine, you do not just do what you feel like. You follow a standard treatment, which was developed. trump is blocking the drug companies from a total deployment, including the training that goes with it, because he thinks that "medical people" can just figure it out. Well, the drug companies and the doctors are not going to do that.
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I retired while I was on top of my game. In fact, I had one doc recently offer me a job to work for him as a private surgical tech. But I’ll stay Happily, retired, thank you lol.

I’m still curious about what’s so scary about this vaccine that it requires ‘special training’ to deliver it. Unless there’s something highly unusual about it the worst thing anyone is going to do is mix it improperly to where it’s not as effective.

What is it? Be specific.
 
Walt said:
I read that it was complex, so you demand I explain to you using specifics? I both do not know the specifics, nor would I have the time to train you if I did.

It does have to be kept super cold.
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So lol?

I’m sure every hospital has a super cold freezer because cadaver implants [ACL grafts and etc] are delivered packed in dry ice and then stored in the ridiculously cold freezer.

Try again.
 
Darth Omar said:
So lol?

I’m sure every hospital has a super cold freezer because cadaver implants [ACL grafts and etc] are delivered packed in dry ice and then stored in the ridiculously cold freezer.

Try again.
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You want to put the vaccines in with cadavers? You really want this vaccine to kill people.
 
Cult members who pledge allegiance to Trump are not Americans, they would be more comfortable in Iran as their adherence to Trump is similar to a religious fanatic. Biden is our President, get used to it those who still cling to democracy's loser. Boys and girls, times change, America spoke and voted. Are the Russian trolls still online? I haven't seen my favorite recently.

"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
 
Walt said:
You want to put the vaccines in with cadavers? You really want this vaccine to kill people.
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It’s usually not a good idea to get into another posters wheel house and then try to bullshit them, Alter Walter lol.

You [and Biden, apparently] don’t know what you’re talking about.
 
midcan5 said:
Cult members who pledge allegiance to Trump are not Americans, they would be more comfortable in Iran as their adherence to Trump is similar to a religious fanatic. Biden is our President, get used to it those who still cling to democracy's loser. Boys and girls, times change, America spoke and voted. Are the Russian trolls still online? I haven't seen my favorite recently.

"First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counterintuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility." Daniel Pipes
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Says the commie libturd who claims half this country's citizens are not Americans :rolleyes:
 
Darth Omar said:
It’s usually not a good idea to get into another posters wheel house and then try to bullshit them, Alter Walter lol.

You [and Biden, apparently] don’t know what you’re talking about.
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I never claimed to be an expert, but I can easily poke enough holes in your claims to be an expert to know you are not one. Storing vaccines in among cadavers is an unbelievably stupid idea.

As for you figuring out how to keep it clean... Medical cleaning is all about standard protocol. When you throw away the standards, it falls apart.
 
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