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Forget all the hocus pocus arguments of the right regarding spiritual dualism.
What should guide the decision on abortion include REAL things only such as:

The embryo is in a woman's body
When does an embryo have aspects of personhood such that its independent right to life outweighs a women's choice to abort said embryo
Whether in some way the sperm donor had undo influence on the existence of said embryo
What does mom think her life and the embryo life will be like compared to life without a child, including ability to provide for it, her own age, employment, disposition towards responsibility etc
The embryo's state of consciousness, brain development, ability to feel pain
How an abortion can be performed safely and humanely

Things of this nature. Any argument predicated on superstitious religion or superstitious moral value judgment should not enter into any conversation concerning anything, including abortion,
anymore than one should go see a witch doctor in Borneo to extract demons to cure eczema. :palm: Any argument with reference to superstitious religion is a cipher.
Therefore all arguments the religious right make in opposition to abortion are of zero value and 100% fallacious.
 
Forget all the hocus pocus arguments of the right regarding spiritual dualism.
What should guide the decision on abortion include REAL things only such as:

The embryo is in a woman's body
When does an embryo have aspects of personhood such that its independent right to life outweighs a women's choice to abort said embryo
Whether in some way the sperm donor had undo influence on the existence of said embryo
What does mom think her life and the embryo life will be like compared to life without a child, including ability to provide for it, her own age, employment, disposition towards responsibility etc
The embryo's state of consciousness, brain development, ability to feel pain
How an abortion can be performed safely and humanely

Things of this nature. Any argument predicated on superstitious religion or superstitious moral value judgment should not enter into any conversation concerning anything, including abortion,
anymore than one should go see a witch doctor in Borneo to extract demons to cure eczema. :palm: Any argument with reference to superstitious religion is a cipher.
Therefore all arguments the religious right make in opposition to abortion are of zero value and 100% fallacious.

Is the embryo ALIVE as CONCEPTION? OF COURSE, and it doesn't matter what you and the other BABY KILLERS THINK ABOUT IT, that is the UNIVERSAL VIEW of the OVERWHWELMING MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS< who JSUT BURIED Your Big Hero, the JACKASS , ON-THE-WAY-OUT LEFTIDIOT AT CHRISTIAN TIMES. AKA= THE POINT OF THE THREAD.


HIS BULLSHIT HAS BEEN REBUKED BY CHRISTIANS WORLD WIDE...
 
Is the embryo ALIVE as CONCEPTION? OF COURSE, and it doesn't matter what you and the other BABY KILLERS THINK ABOUT IT, that is the UNIVERSAL VIEW of the OVERWHWELMING MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS< who JSUT BURIED Your Big Hero, the JACKASS , ON-THE-WAY-OUT LEFTIDIOT AT CHRISTIAN TIMES. AKA= THE POINT OF THE THREAD.
HIS BULLSHIT HAS BEEN REBUKED BY CHRISTIANS WORLD WIDE...

Worldwide Christianity deems at conception is life so they may continue dhimmitude servitude of "serve the Pope or die" which has become "serve the Pope & die" slavery of the not so master race that has the cross higher than the flag just as they have Christ existed before God standing.
 
Worldwide Christianity deems at conception is life so they may continue dhimmitude servitude of "serve the Pope or die" which has become "serve the Pope & die" slavery of the not so master race that has the cross higher than the flag just as they have Christ existed before God standing.

Wow. HOW IS LIFE UNDER THE TINFOIL??? BIOLOGISTS AVER THAT LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.


LYINGASS BABYKILLERS TRY TO PRETEND THAT THEY CAN ASSIGN "PERSONHOOD" to an ALREADY LIVING ENTITY.
 

Wow. HOW IS LIFE UNDER THE TINFOIL??? BIOLOGISTS AVER THAT LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.


LYINGASS BABYKILLERS TRY TO PRETEND THAT THEY CAN ASSIGN "PERSONHOOD" to an ALREADY LIVING ENTITY.

'Life' is very widespread. Each particular sperm is alive, for instance. Saving them all up in a fridge for redemption, are we? Human life traditionally begins at birth, though Trumpers doubtless have their own non-human system.
 
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'Life' is very widespread. Each particular sperm is alive, for instance. Saving them all up in a fridge for redemption, are we? Human life traditionally begins at birth, though Trumper's doubtless have their own non-human system.

Sperm may be ‘alive’ in the sense they are viable but they aren’t considering living organisms. That’s like saying a liver cell is ‘alive’ when liver cells can only be viable or unviable.

Even human embryos are living organisms—just in a very early stage of development. The choices are to either kill the organism—or not.

No escaping the logic. Unless you want to play semantical games.
 
Sperm may be ‘alive’ in the sense they are viable but they aren’t considering living organisms. That’s like saying a liver cell is ‘alive’ when liver cells can only be viable or unviable.

Even human embryos are living organisms—just in a very early stage of development. The choices are to either kill the organism—or not.

No escaping the logic. Unless you want to play semantical games.

Aborted foetuses are unviable see. The fact that you want to force them into long sentences of abuse, drug addiction and prison doesn't alter that.
 
And when soldiers take to the battle field the objective is to make as many of their enemies ‘unviable’ as possible.

Isn’t this fun lol?

NO, it's not. None of your stinking capitalist games are anything but shit, as you know, you human-hating pervert. Have a hating Christmas! Heil Baal and his American worshippers.
 
NO, it's not. None of your stinking capitalist games are anything but shit, as you know, you human-hating pervert. Have a hating Christmas! Heil Baal and his American worshippers.

I’m a hater for not abusing scientific terms?

Alrighty then lol. Merry Winter Solstice to you to.
 
I’m a hater for not abusing scientific terms?

Alrighty then lol. Merry Winter Solstice to you to.

You're a hater because you detest humanity, as you know, and want to enslave it to a gross, fatuous, incompetent scoundrel. You love the 'competition' by which such a scumbag can buy power without responsibility and set about destroying all decency. Fancy yourself as 'scientific' do you, while your chums are all quoting an Old Testament they have never read to justify your shared sick hatred of life?
 
You're a hater because you detest humanity, as you know, and want to enslave it to a gross, fatuous, incompetent scoundrel. You love the 'competition' by which such a scumbag can buy power without responsibility and set about destroying all decency. Fancy yourself as 'scientific' do you, while your chums are all quoting an Old Testament they have never read to justify your shared sick hatred of life?

I identified 4 excellent points in this single post.
 
You're a hater because you detest humanity, as you know, and want to enslave it to a gross, fatuous, incompetent scoundrel. You love the 'competition' by which such a scumbag can buy power without responsibility and set about destroying all decency. Fancy yourself as 'scientific' do you, while your chums are all quoting an Old Testament they have never read to justify your shared sick hatred of life?

And here I thought I was the one defending human life lol.
 
The sheep herder Iolo sock hates all Americans yet some of the far left loons defend this boor who was raised in a barn, with his sheep.
 
There is nothing scientific about life beginning at conception. What underpins the idea is assigning spiritual significance at an arbitrary location,
the instant of the sperm fertilizing an egg, in what is an endless life cycle. As science does not admit of any spiritual signifier or existence apart from the
natural world we live in, any such argument is scientifically spurious. A theologian could just as readily assign spiritual significance to any point in
an individual existence as pertinent, and in fact they have and do. You have spiritual sacraments and conjuring all over the place. It's all a steaming load.

The only sensible way to regulate the behavior of abortion is use of reason, as with all things, instead of casting moral judgment for deviation from your irrational,
arbitrary and less salubrious temporal locus than could otherwise be accomplished.
 
And here I thought I was the one defending human life lol.

NO - what you are defending is a sentence of life-torture for those who are forced to be born to mothers who know they cannot give them a decent life, for no reason I can see other than to enslave women. If you gave a twopenny whatsit for human life you would see to it that such children had a decent life, but as you know, once they've been born, all you ever do is exploit and destroy them. I doubt you buggers even begin to grasp the total disgust you arouse in decent people. If you want to be self-righteous, act righteously - though you'll find that those who do aren't on the whole any such thing.
 
There is nothing scientific about life beginning at conception. What underpins the idea is assigning spiritual significance at an arbitrary location,
the instant of the sperm fertilizing an egg, in what is an endless life cycle. As science does not admit of any spiritual signifier or existence apart from the
natural world we live in, any such argument is scientifically spurious. A theologian could just as readily assign spiritual significance to any point in
an individual existence as pertinent, and in fact they have and do. You have spiritual sacraments and conjuring all over the place. It's all a steaming load.

The only sensible way to regulate the behavior of abortion is use of reason, as with all things, instead of casting moral judgment for deviation from your irrational,
arbitrary and less salubrious temporal locus than could otherwise be accomplished.

You stand truth and science on its head.

You began to exist as a living organism at conception. That is what science ‘says’. You still carry the same genetic code that was assigned to you at conception. Not before, not when you were delivered but at conception. Anything that ‘aborted’ the ensuing developmental process would have killed you, to be perfectly blunt.
 
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