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Havana Moon said:
They want to take Taiwan back and totally control the South China Sea. They already control much of Africa and are busily doing the same throughout South East Asia. At least Trump is taking them on, before it's too late.
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Why yes. It’s just pathetic how all American Presidents have kow towed to China and Trump finally stood up to them.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Why yes. It’s just pathetic how all American Presidents have kow towed to China and Trump finally stood up to them.
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Yes, you are right, despite your pisspoor attempt at sarcasm. You need to get up to speed with events over here, even Thailand is getting mighty pissed off with the Chinese bully boys.
 
Havana Moon said:
Hmm, I imagined that it was saying exactly that.
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Well you’re wrong. The figures you’re citing are in GDP purchasing parity power and not nominal GDP and the figure that really counts is per capita GDP. In terms of nominal GDP the US represents 25% of the worlds economy. In nominal GDP the US is still $10 trillion annually ahead of China. Then consider that the US per capita GDP, the figure that really counts, is over 7 times greater than China.

Now let’s consider China and India’s populations where each country has more people living in abject poverty than the entire population of the US. This is a monumental problem for both countries which is a great drain on resources and has a huge potential for internal political instability if the problem isn’t addressed.

So yes China’s growing economy presents certain geopolitical issues for the US that will have to be addressed but the sky isn’t falling. Not by a long shot when you consider both internal economic, social and political problems dwarf those of the US.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Well you’re wrong. The figures you’re citing are in GDP purchasing parity power and not nominal GDP and the figure that really counts is per capita GDP. In terms of nominal GDP the US represents 25% of the worlds economy. In nominal GDP the US is still $10 trillion annually ahead of China. Then consider that the US per capita GDP, the figure that really counts, is over 7 times greater than China.

Now let’s consider China and India’s populations where each country has more people living in abject poverty than the entire population of the US. This is a monumental problem for both countries which is a great drain on resources and has a huge potential for internal political instability if the problem isn’t addressed.

So yes China’s growing economy presents certain geopolitical issues for the US that will have to be addressed but the sky isn’t falling. Not by a long shot when you consider both internal economic, social and political problems dwarf those of the US.
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I really think you don't get it, China is building or planning high-speed railways all over S E Asia. One of those will go through Laos, Thailand down to Singapore and another through Vietnam, the Eastern Seaboard and Bangkok. The infrastructure plans are truly enormous, what's the US doing? The Chinese are currently building 20 new nuclear reactors, expanding their military massively and rapidly overtaking the US and Japan in electronics. Maybe if you came here you'd see all those Chinese, living in abject poverty, swarming around all the shopping malls in Bangkok and Pattaya buying Rolex and Cartier watches? Oh and I ought to add that they have built 20 thousand kilometres of high-speed rail in China, they'll probably build another 10 thousand before California finishes theirs!

Another recent phenomena is Indian tourists, they are everywhere in Pattaya now. There is a huge Indian middle class, bigger than the entire US population and they've got money to burn. As for Russians, they are bloody everywhere Desh would have a blue arsed fit!! Plenty of bots here, mostly attached to really fit looking Russian blonde bints!
 
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Damocles said:
There won't be a need, more people speak English in China than there are people in the United States.
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In my opinion, we are under attack by China, a nationalistic ethno-state. They want World Dominance in economics and culture. They have disguised themselves as 'Global Partners', but in reality are practicing a mercantilist approach to National Power. We are under cyber-attack by the Chinese Military, stealing everything they can get their hands on. They provide their State owned businesses with the latest American (and others) technological breakthroughs and advancements. Americans point at their massive Military Machines, "Look at the Big Aircraft Carrier", while China develops the capabilities to render these things useless for pennies on the dollar.

China lands on Far Side of Moon, ... America has Government Shutdown. (Doesn't look too good for the Home Team)

 
Havana Moon said:
That is perfectly true but why then are they building up their military to such a degree, who is their perceived enemy? Vietnam recently allowed the USS Vinson to dock in Da Nang, who would have predicted that even ten years ago?

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My OPINION on that is that this is a nation that is paranoid and run by paranoia. Most despotic regimes are. Therefore, it is an attempt to tell the world not to try to interfere with their sovereignty and beware if you do.
 
iolo said:
America, of course, spends al its money on doves and peace propaganda. There's nice!
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Mott the Hoople said:
Well you’re wrong. The figures you’re citing are in GDP purchasing parity power and not nominal GDP and the figure that really counts is per capita GDP. In terms of nominal GDP the US represents 25% of the worlds economy. In nominal GDP the US is still $10 trillion annually ahead of China. Then consider that the US per capita GDP, the figure that really counts, is over 7 times greater than China.

Now let’s consider China and India’s populations where each country has more people living in abject poverty than the entire population of the US. This is a monumental problem for both countries which is a great drain on resources and has a huge potential for internal political instability if the problem isn’t addressed.

So yes China’s growing economy presents certain geopolitical issues for the US that will have to be addressed but the sky isn’t falling. Not by a long shot when you consider both internal economic, social and political problems dwarf those of the US.
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WOW! First time I can say I am 100% in agreement with something you posted. :clap:
 
Jack said:
In my opinion, we are under attack by China, a nationalistic ethno-state. They want World Dominance in economics and culture. They have disguised themselves as 'Global Partners', but in reality are practicing a mercantilist approach to National Power. We are under cyber-attack by the Chinese Military, stealing everything they can get their hands on. They provide their State owned businesses with the latest American (and others) technological breakthroughs and advancements. Americans point at their massive Military Machines, "Look at the Big Aircraft Carrier", while China develops the capabilities to render these things useless for pennies on the dollar.

China lands on Far Side of Moon, ... America has Government Shutdown. (Doesn't look too good for the Home Team)
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well said Jack!
 
Havana Moon said:
If you mean Subic Bay, that shut down years ago!
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Actually the US and the Philippines inked a deal to re-open Subic/Freeport to a US Naval Base during the last administration. The negotiations began during the Bush administration. China being a bully boy in the South China sea region is not new news and the US has sat up and noticed. Particularly their actions in the Sprattly Islands in which US Naval and Air Forces have consistantly flown and sailed through those waters and ignored China's claims to them, as well as, denouncing China's claims as violation of international maritime law. The US Naval presence has guaranteed open sea lanes through the regions and China has not been happy about that but impotent to stop the US from protecting international sea lanes in the South China Sea.

All of which comes around to what does this have to do with China's growing economy other than China, understandably, desiring to grow their hegemony in the region at the cost of others?
 
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