Deficits and the debt are only issues when the POTUS comes with a (D) after his name. The Teatards are strangely silent these days, eh?
We Are Not Collecting Enough Taxes. And Still The Debt Rises; Despite Strong Economy.
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Deficits and the debt are only issues when the POTUS comes with a (D) after his name. The Teatards are strangely silent these days, eh?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
The most civilized nations in the world have the highest taxes,
but also deliver the most bang for the tax buck.
They provide education and healthcare,
but don't waste trillions on wars that accomplish nothing other than to enrich war profiteers.
There are no moderate or subtle solutions to America's problems.
We turn hard left politically, or we perish--sooner rather than later.
The ball's in our court.
but also deliver the most bang for the tax buck.
They provide education and healthcare,
but don't waste trillions on wars that accomplish nothing other than to enrich war profiteers.
There are no moderate or subtle solutions to America's problems.
We turn hard left politically, or we perish--sooner rather than later.
The ball's in our court.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
This one isn’t lol.
Had Obama cut the size of the regulatory state like Trump has done [and what the TP was calling for, for years] he could have won some of us over. But Obama went into hyper-regulatory overdrive—it’s a big reason the recovery wasn’t as strong as it could have been.
But when tax cuts spur economic growth—like this has done, that increases revenues and since more people are working it cuts the costs of entitlements as well.
Trump cut taxes AND decreased the regulatory burden on businesses. That’s going to improve the economy—and it’s nearly a given.
That’s a win for the Tea Party.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Regulations protect consumers, workers, the environment, and even small investors.
For anybody but billionaire corporate pirates to applaud deregulation is an absolute sign of mental incompetence.
The issue isn't regulation or deregulation.
It's smart, effective regulation vs. poorly written or ill-advised regulation.
Insufficient regulation leads to the shithole that we're rapidly becoming thanks to Trumpanzees.
For anybody but billionaire corporate pirates to applaud deregulation is an absolute sign of mental incompetence.
The issue isn't regulation or deregulation.
It's smart, effective regulation vs. poorly written or ill-advised regulation.
Insufficient regulation leads to the shithole that we're rapidly becoming thanks to Trumpanzees.
I'm curious.... do you have a list of these cut regulations?
Could you detail the regulatory burden that caused businesses so much burden? Was it things like not dumping their toxic chemicals in rivers and streams? Is it net nuetrality or the fiduciary rule where your broker can sell you things that benefit them more than you, or the fair pay and safe workplace which kept companies with violations from gaining government contracts, or the tip polling rules which makes it easier for companies to steal your tips, or the rule that allows you to form a class action suit against your credit card company, or how about the one where military equipment can be sold to your local police department,
I really want to know these regulations that were so burdensome.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Are you kidding?
Business regulations are every bit as tedious and arcane as Mosaic Law in Exodus lol. It’s part of why they are so burdensome on businesses—especially small businesses. We have people that work at my place and *all they do* is make sure the hospital is in compliance. It’s costly as hell.
But here is a non-partisan expert source:
https://www.industryweek.com/economy/deregulation-under-president-trump-behind-numbers
So, you see it as better for a hospital not to be in compliance? That is rather a scary thought to me.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
If a certain kind of business can't exist in the private sector while complying with regulations that protect the consumers, the workers, and the environment,
then that industry simply belongs in the public sector where it doesn't have to make a profit.
Socialism as a percentage of the overall economy is absolutely necessary for that very reason.
Your local fire department couldn't turn a profit either, but you're glad that it's there.
then that industry simply belongs in the public sector where it doesn't have to make a profit.
Socialism as a percentage of the overall economy is absolutely necessary for that very reason.
Your local fire department couldn't turn a profit either, but you're glad that it's there.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
In compliance with who and what lol?
In compliance with Medicare? In compliance with HIPPA? In compliance with JCAHO? Like I said, we have full time employees who do nothing else but manage compliance.
And since I work in the business I can tell you much of it over laps and is redundant. And yes, some of it is down right stupid.
And little or none of it is free—and guess where the costs get shifted to?
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According to your link there are "fewer new regulations" under the Trump administration. You did not answer my question. What regulations did he cut that have helped businesses? The article listed only a couple, and they had to do with walk-in cooler environmental regulations and "....Trump major rules was a de-regulatory action (removal of the Obama-era “Fair Pay and Safe Workplace Rule” for federal contractors)." So basically those are the only two named, and both protected either workers or the environment.
Essentially, other than issuing fewer new regs, Trump has done very little in the way of helping out businesses by regulatory standards.
Do you know how much medicare fraud was committed by hospitals in the past, it was a lot.
I want my privacy respected, so compliance with HIPAA is very important to me.
JCAHO compliance is especially vital, it regulates patient care. I want hospital labs to be accredited, accredited hospitals are safer hospitals.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Jack,
I know who Congress works for and I am hoping to find out how to change that.
I know who Congress works for and I am hoping to find out how to change that.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
OK, PoliTalker--we seem to be agreeing on something.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Kacper,
I don't understand why you say that. Norway paid off their debt and their economy is fine. If we had no debt, our taxes could be far lower. Much of our taxes goes to paying interest. That would vanish if the debt was gone. Far lower taxes would be a boon to the economy. We are getting a taste of that now, but it's fool's gold, not sustainable. With the debt paid off it would be permanently awesome for taxpayers.
But in order to get from where we are now to that lofty goal would take a very long time with dedicated fiscal responsibility. It could only be done slowly and gradually. Like Bill Clinton was doing; and W screwed up. W took us from a surplus to the Great Recession. Trump's pipe dream of paying off the debt in 8 years was ridiculous and impossible. He was totally full of it when he claimed he could do that. When he says stuff like that it makes him sound like a moron.
I would be totally happy if we could simply reverse the trend and just start reducing the debt. At the very least we should reduce the deficit with the goal of lowering the debt/GDP ratio. The stability of our economy can be expressed in terms of debt/GDP. Right now that is too high.
I'm sure some Democrats fit that description. I am also quite certain that not all of them do. You are hopelessly lost in generalizations and over-simplifications. The world is complex, and so is our politics. That's a big problem for comprehension of our situation. REAL doesn't fit in a sound byte. Some Democrats want to do what is right for the nation. Some Democrats are fighting crony capitalism.
I don't understand why you say that. Norway paid off their debt and their economy is fine. If we had no debt, our taxes could be far lower. Much of our taxes goes to paying interest. That would vanish if the debt was gone. Far lower taxes would be a boon to the economy. We are getting a taste of that now, but it's fool's gold, not sustainable. With the debt paid off it would be permanently awesome for taxpayers.
But in order to get from where we are now to that lofty goal would take a very long time with dedicated fiscal responsibility. It could only be done slowly and gradually. Like Bill Clinton was doing; and W screwed up. W took us from a surplus to the Great Recession. Trump's pipe dream of paying off the debt in 8 years was ridiculous and impossible. He was totally full of it when he claimed he could do that. When he says stuff like that it makes him sound like a moron.
I would be totally happy if we could simply reverse the trend and just start reducing the debt. At the very least we should reduce the deficit with the goal of lowering the debt/GDP ratio. The stability of our economy can be expressed in terms of debt/GDP. Right now that is too high.
I'm sure some Democrats fit that description. I am also quite certain that not all of them do. You are hopelessly lost in generalizations and over-simplifications. The world is complex, and so is our politics. That's a big problem for comprehension of our situation. REAL doesn't fit in a sound byte. Some Democrats want to do what is right for the nation. Some Democrats are fighting crony capitalism.
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evince
Truthmatters
Putin wants us to go bankrupt and wants the republicans to defaut on our debts by closing down the government
remember when Donny met his boss putin in person
remember the look on his face when he walked out on stage BEHIND Putin?
Putin spoke first and the Donny had to wait and looked slumped and sad
Putin had ordered him to do these things and stupid shit like more tariffs
even the idiot Donny knows they are loser ideas
he just has to do what putin told him to do
Fuck American in every way he can
Irish Exit
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The American College of Physicians has come out against the overly burdensome regulations that take away from their time being able to actually treat patients. Just google “Patients Before Paperwork”
I don’t know about you, but I want it documented what medical care I have received. Insurance companies are a lot of the problem, they require documentation and doctors offices have taken on the practice of filing insurance claims for people in order to receive payment. Electronic record keeping is racing the record keeping burden.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
According to my link the manufacturing sector takes a positive view of Trump’s regulatory management.
Not bad for a mentally debilitated narcissistic, huh lol?