What nation started Socialist…
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Jerry Mathers
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even ancient empires knew bread and circuses were required to stop revolution.
now dance, rummy, dance!
Valentino
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North Korea (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is a nation that began as a socialist state and later adopted a distinct communist ideology. Established as a socialist state in 1948, it transitioned to a communist system in 1972, remaining under communist leadership today.
Other nations followed a similar trajectory:
- China: Established as a socialist state in 1949, it formally adopted a communist constitution in 1975.
- Vietnam: Unified as the socialist Socialist Republic of Vietnam in 1976, continuing under communist party rule.
- Cuba: Operated as a socialist state from 1959 before officially becoming a communist state in 1976.
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Name a nation that started socialist and later fell into communism?
North Korea (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is a nation that began as a socialist state and later adopted a distinct communist ideology. Established as a socialist state in 1948, it transitioned to a communist system in 1972, remaining under communist leadership today. Other nations...
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That link almost also applies to Trump supporters
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Trump supporters support Communism? LMFAO............No, we Republican-Conservative Americans
are fighting you Leftist Communists every day.
Jerry Mathers
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isn't the free bread of ancient Rome socialism?North Korea (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is a nation that began as a socialist state and later adopted a distinct communist ideology. Established as a socialist state in 1948, it transitioned to a communist system in 1972, remaining under communist leadership today.
Other nations followed a similar trajectory:
Many Eastern European countries, such as Poland and Hungary, also began as socialist states post-WWII and formally adopted communist constitutions in the 1970s before collapsing in 1989.
- China: Established as a socialist state in 1949, it formally adopted a communist constitution in 1975.
- Vietnam: Unified as the socialist Socialist Republic of Vietnam in 1976, continuing under communist party rule.
- Cuba: Operated as a socialist state from 1959 before officially becoming a communist state in 1976.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.
Name a nation that started socialist and later fell into communism?
North Korea (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is a nation that began as a socialist state and later adopted a distinct communist ideology. Established as a socialist state in 1948, it transitioned to a communist system in 1972, remaining under communist leadership today. Other nations...
why don't you count it?
this question goes for all of you pompous retards.
Valentino
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What are you talking about?
Jerry Mathers
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which word or sentence of the above post is confusing?
Jerry Mathers
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Rome had welfare programs.
why won't you reference them as first?
is it because everyone has to love Rome? maybe Rome sucked balls.
Valentino
The Man - The Myth
Tell me about the Roman Empire's socialism. I've never heard of such a claim.
Jerry Mathers
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Jerry Mathers
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now we have food stamp and rabbit ears tv.
and I'm fine with it.
and I'm fine with it.
It is my opinion that an AI perspective of questions like this one is helpful. Here is an AI response:
The short answer is no nation has historically "started" as a purely democratic socialist state and then "fallen" into communism, because from a Marxist perspective, socialism and communism are sequential stages of development, not two completely separate systems competing for the same timeline.
The premise of the question relies on a misunderstanding of how these political terms are defined in political science and historical materialism. Here is a breakdown of why this question is a "troll item" and how the two concepts actually relate.
The Theoretical Difference (Marxism)In political theory, particularly Marxist theory, socialism and communism are not distinct, competing destinations. Instead, they are phases on a single timeline:
- Socialism is defined as the transitional phase. In this stage, the working class controls the means of production, and goods are distributed based on the principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution."
- Communism is the theoretical final stage. It is envisioned as a classless, stateless, and moneyless society where goods are distributed based on: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
The Historical RealityWhen looking at 20th-century history, the nations we traditionally call "Communist" (like the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, or Vietnam) were governed by Communist Parties, but they officially referred to themselves as Socialist Republics (e.g., the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).
- These countries did not "start socialist" and then change. They were founded by Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries who seized power with the explicit intent of using a socialist state apparatus to eventually engineer a communist society.
- They never claimed to have reached the "final stage" of communism.
Does Socialism Always Lead to Communism?Historically and practically, no.
The confusion often comes from conflating two very different modern political movements:
- Marxist-Leninist Socialism: A revolutionary movement aiming for a stateless communist future (as described above).
- Democratic Socialism / Social Democracy: Modern Western movements (like those seen in Scandinavia, Germany, or New Zealand) that operate entirely within a capitalist framework. These nations use high taxation and strong social safety nets (universal healthcare, free education) but maintain private property, open markets, and robust multi-party democracies. They have no ideological desire, mechanism, or trajectory to transition into a Marxist communist state.
Jerry Mathers
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is it not great to emulate Rome, the greatest of the greatest of all greats--- Pliny the bliny.
Noking
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Are you referring to Trumpian history??????
Jerry Mathers
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that not even the question, fuckface.It is my opinion that an AI perspective of questions like this one is helpful. Here is an AI response:
The short answer is no nation has historically "started" as a purely democratic socialist state and then "fallen" into communism, because from a Marxist perspective, socialism and communism are sequential stages of development, not two completely separate systems competing for the same timeline.
The premise of the question relies on a misunderstanding of how these political terms are defined in political science and historical materialism. Here is a breakdown of why this question is a "troll item" and how the two concepts actually relate.
In political theory, particularly Marxist theory, socialism and communism are not distinct, competing destinations. Instead, they are phases on a single timeline:
Therefore, a Marxist would argue that a socialist nation cannot "fall" into communism; rather, communism is the ultimate goal that socialism is supposed to build toward. However, no nation has ever claimed to have actually achieved a fully communist society.
- Socialism is defined as the transitional phase. In this stage, the working class controls the means of production, and goods are distributed based on the principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution."
- Communism is the theoretical final stage. It is envisioned as a classless, stateless, and moneyless society where goods are distributed based on: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
When looking at 20th-century history, the nations we traditionally call "Communist" (like the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, or Vietnam) were governed by Communist Parties, but they officially referred to themselves as Socialist Republics (e.g., the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).
- These countries did not "start socialist" and then change. They were founded by Marxist-Leninist revolutionaries who seized power with the explicit intent of using a socialist state apparatus to eventually engineer a communist society.
- They never claimed to have reached the "final stage" of communism.
Historically and practically, no.
The confusion often comes from conflating two very different modern political movements:
- Marxist-Leninist Socialism: A revolutionary movement aiming for a stateless communist future (as described above).
- Democratic Socialism / Social Democracy: Modern Western movements (like those seen in Scandinavia, Germany, or New Zealand) that operate entirely within a capitalist framework. These nations use high taxation and strong social safety nets (universal healthcare, free education) but maintain private property, open markets, and robust multi-party democracies. They have no ideological desire, mechanism, or trajectory to transition into a Marxist communist state.
which nation had welfare first.
