Why do we have all these idiots jumping on Al Franken, over this one accusation?

christiefan915 said:
I think some of these men have old-school thinking in regard to what is or isn't acceptable. The common excuse is "lighten up, it's just a joke" or "I didn't grab you, I accidentally brushed against you."
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Seems like that would be something you force everyone in congress to take them up front, not as a punishment. Using Franken as an example I don't think he needs a class right now to know what he did was wrong. (although some guys on this board do)
 
It's a counter-attack over Roy Moore to protect their party's history of bad behavior and a distraction from their tax scam bill.
 
cawacko said:
LOL, that's what women getting sexually harassed is? Just a distraction?
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No, the hype over THIS case is. The shifting of trillions of dollars to the rich and tens of millions losing healthcare is a bigger news story than Franken's kiss years ago.
 
Craig234 said:
No, the hype over THIS case is. The shifting of trillions of dollars to the rich and tens of millions losing healthcare is a bigger news story than Franken's kiss years ago.
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Isn't that an example of white male privilege to say that? (I'm assuming you are white and male. My apologies if I am mistaken)

(and it's not like people aren't discussing the tax cuts)
 
cawacko said:
Isn't that an example of white male privilege to say that? (I'm assuming you are white and male. My apologies if I am mistaken)

(and it's not like people aren't discussing the tax cuts)
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No, it isn't.

It's an example of intelligence to say that.
 
No, it's not 'white male privilege' to say that.

And it is like the Franken hype pushed the tax bill out of a lot of the news coverage it should be getting. And that's not an accident. Like the hyped 'Uranium' non-scandal and countless others.
 
I'm all for the accountability on sexual harassment. However, it's a good question why a politician is held accountable for an act of sexual harassment while voting to take healthcare from millions of people is not seen as worse, but rather just 'a legitimate political position'; why a CEO is held accountable for an act of sexual harassment, but causing great harm such as to the environment is not seen as worse, but just 'legitimate business activity'.

Why Roy Moore ignoring religious freedom and the constitution resulting in his being removed from his office twice and supporting a terrible policy agenda is seen as less of a disqualifier than his sexually harassing and assaulting girls decades ago. The accountability on the sexual behavior is good, but the lack of accountability on the even more harmful behaviors is not.
 
cawacko said:
For my knowledge who has stopped discussing the proposed tax cuts because of Franken?
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Bill Smith, of Squirellville, Kentucky. He's just obsessed with the Franken story and hasn't said a word about the tax bill. The tax bill is getting far too little media coverage and public attention. The Franken story is one reason.
 
Craig234 said:
I'm all for the accountability on sexual harassment. However, it's a good question why a politician is held accountable for an act of sexual harassment while voting to take healthcare from millions of people is not seen as worse, but rather just 'a legitimate political position'; why a CEO is held accountable for an act of sexual harassment, but causing great harm such as to the environment is not seen as worse, but just 'legitimate business activity'.

Why Roy Moore ignoring religious freedom and the constitution resulting in his being removed from his office twice and supporting a terrible policy agenda is seen as less of a disqualifier than his sexually harassing and assaulting girls decades ago. The accountability on the sexual behavior is good, but the lack of accountability on the even more harmful behaviors is not.
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Ultimately it depends what kind of people you want in office.

And once Trump and then Weinstein happened it's pretty hard to turn back.
 
Craig234 said:
Bill Smith, of Squirellville, Kentucky. He's just obsessed with the Franken story and hasn't said a word about the tax bill. The tax bill is getting far too little media coverage and public attention. The Franken story is one reason.
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I live in San Francisco so you'll have to help me out here. Who is he and why should I care? (not trying to be snarky but just asking)
 
blackascoal said:
How about republicans draining healthcare is FAR more important than what Franken did 11 years ago.

It's more important than who Alabama sends to the Senate.
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That's fine, doesn't offend me. But that General attitude is why the behavior won't ultimately change
 
floridafan said:
I am speaking of the sexual escapades that Trump bragged about, but not a single republican has challenged.
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Trump's statement that he can grab women by the pussy is basically an admission that he's sexually assaulted women in the past.

Sadly, partisan snowflakes like ILA, GBA, Rightie and a few other refuse to admit what is plain to the rest of the nation's voters.
 
cawacko said:
That's fine, doesn't offend me. But that General attitude is why the behavior won't ultimately change
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No it isn't .. not by a long shot.

Changing attitudes is about changing culture. Attitudes are indeed changing, but that change of culture has been hundreds of years in the making.

Healthcare is about life and death now.

It shouldn't offend you. I'm more pro-woman than you are.
 
cawacko said:
I live in San Francisco so you'll have to help me out here. Who is he and why should I care? (not trying to be snarky but just asking)
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It was a facetious answer to your misguided question. You are being obtuse about the point that the Franken story is being hyped by Republicans to distract from the tax scam bill disaster they're trying to push through.
 
cawacko said:
That's fine, doesn't offend me. But that General attitude is why the behavior won't ultimately change
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We have an ADMITTED Sexual predator who was elected PRESIDENT despite his admission that he's grabbed women by the pussy and kissed them against their will.

And we have an entire block of voters who will vote for the pervert again despite knowing full well what his sexual proclivities were before the election.

THAT is why the behavior will never change.
 
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