Why does the explosion in variants correlate with the vaccines?

anatta said:
what? lol. no none of this is true. virus survive all the time - it's just that herd immunity preclude them from being an outbreak.
vaxxes are an impediment to host replication- one way for a virus to profligate is to mutate around the vaxx induced antibodies and then ( Darwins law) become a resistant variant/strain to the vaxx
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Oh, of course I forgot to mention that viruses can remain viable when morons refuse to vaccinate.
 
BartenderElite said:
There just seems to be a "pro-virus" position establishing itself.

A lot of virus allies out there...
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And a few CCP allies in our government and some of our institutions that very plausibly aided in the development of the virus before it leaked from the Wuhan lab.

Non-story? No biggie? Too late to do anything about it?
 
Darth Omar said:
And a few CCP allies in our government and some of our institutions that very plausibly aided in the development of the virus before it leaked.

Non-story? No biggie?
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Nah - of course that would be a big story. I'm all for that being investigated.

Was that some whataboutism I saw there? Do you think deflecting to that makes a difference in how the virus is being handled today?
 
Darth Omar said:
And a few CCP allies in our government and some of our institutions that very plausibly aided in the development of the virus before it leaked from the Wuhan lab.

Non-story? No biggie? Too late to do anything about it?
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no reason it cant happen again, especially since China got away with it this time.
which is why Congressional hearing are needed - we need to publicly cast blame on China-
they are blaming the US military for COVID
 
Concart said:
There is no 'explosion in variants' We are mainly concerned with one variant at this point. There is no correlation between the existence of the Delta variant in a given area and higher vaccination rates in that area.

This was posted and debunked last week. Why are you so fucking stupid as to bring it up again?
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You might have missed his infamous '61' thread, where he laughed that there were 61 Covid cases in the nation at the time.
 
anatta said:
it took 3/4 of a century and coordinated effort by the entire world - it is the ONLY virus ever considered eradicated.
So I guess you found the exception to the rule -polio is still very much "alive" - but contained/eradicated

It's still possible it could come back -so terms like eradication are epidemiological terms not absolutes
https://www.contagionlive.com/view/smallpox-nightmare-we-cannot-shake
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Yes, and it is a blueprint for eradicating viruses. What you are encouraging is exactly the opposite.
 
anatta said:
you confuse hosts -which ALL you had to say- with "enviornment"
which is simply the population of hosts.
Like I said your terms are so elastic they are meaningless.

And vaccines DO cause mutations -
which i what you might have been trying to say - i dont know because you wander all over the place, conflate terms, and posit illogic
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A vaccine is a selection pressure. ...remaining pathogens with the greatest fitness — those able to survive
Read the fucking quote and try to understand it. It doesn't cause the mutations. The best mutation of those that occurred survives.
 
BartenderElite said:
Nah - of course that would be a big story. I'm all for that being investigated.

Was that some whataboutism I saw there? Do you think deflecting to that makes a difference in how the virus is being handled today?
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Compared to where we were a year ago I’d give ourselves an A, wouldn’t you?

But Trump? But 61?
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
bullshit. what a dumbass you are. it is the time the virus has to be in the general population that creates variants, you silly ass bitch. vaccines are the way to stop the mutating, dumbfuck.

Variants in the United States
B.1.1.7 (Alpha): This variant was first detected in the United States in December 2020.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...B.1.1.7 (Alpha,detected in the United Kingdom.
About Variants of the Virus that Causes COVID-19​​ | CDC


U.S. vaccinations in 2020 fall far short of target of 20 million ...https://www.reuters.com › article › u-s-vaccinations-in-...
Dec 31, 2020 — Only about 2.8 million Americans had received a COVID-19 vaccine going
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He knows. Like trump, he needs constant attention
 
Althea said:
You might have missed his infamous '61' thread, where he laughed that there were 61 Covid cases in the nation at the time.
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Oh, I haven't missed it. People like Darth who intentionally spread misinformation need to be shouted down. It's beneath contempt.
 
Concart said:
Yes, and it is a blueprint for eradicating viruses. What you are encouraging is exactly the opposite.
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im not "encouraging anything., other then an informed medica opion for those who have questions about whether they shouikd be vaxxed.

You dont vaxx someone ( medical ethics) say with a compromised immune system - just to increase herd immunity
 
Concart said:
Oh, of course I forgot to mention that viruses can remain viable when morons refuse to vaccinate.
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Some viruses mutate, some don't. Which explains why some have been eradicated, and the trump virus will continue to mutate until all trumpkins are dead.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
A vaccine is a selection pressure. ...remaining pathogens with the greatest fitness — those able to survive
Read the fucking quote and try to understand it. It doesn't cause the mutations. The best mutation of those that occurred survives.
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LMAO.
you with the crappy definitions, and elastic terminology are correcting my syntax?
Please.
 
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