Yeah, he loves the military,

Dutch Uncle said:
He didn't say ban and neither did I. I dislike such legacy candidates....unless you think Bush 43 was a good thing. :)
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I do not think trump has been good for America, but that does not mean that I believe anyone with a letter T in their name should be banned from the Presidency.

Bush 43 should have been defeated on his own merits.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
He didn't say ban and neither did I. I dislike such legacy candidates....unless you think Bush 43 was a good thing. :)
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Saying that candidates should not be allowed to run, because they have a family member who was President before is saying that a candidate should be banned.

I think Bush 43's problems were not that he had family who had been in politics.
 
Walt said:
Saying that candidates should not be allowed to run, because they have a family member who was President before is saying that a candidate should be banned.

I think Bush 43's problems were not that he had family who had been in politics.
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In the case of the trump family, do you believe that Lil trump will avoid using the office to funnel tax money directly to the trump coffers?

I don't have faith that he'll be any different than his father.
 
Walt said:
I do not think trump has been good for America, but that does not mean that I believe anyone with a letter T in their name should be banned from the Presidency.

Bush 43 should have been defeated on his own merits.
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Again, no one is saying "ban". Just dislike or disapprove, of which I do both. Our nation is falling into a rut with "legacy politicians" and "legacy military". Liberals often dislike the military and consider it to be full of people who "can't get real jobs". When military fall in combat, these same liberals say, as Trump did, "they knew what they signed up for". Trump's latest lying accusations against military leadership as loving war to keep the war industry happy is bullshit because most of those leaders have sons and daughters in the military.

Ever since the draft ended, the military has become both smaller and more isolated from Mainstream America because of the reasons I mentioned. This isn't a problem now, but could be 20-30 years from now when a military is more beholding to their own than the nation. A "legacy politician" class would make the current crop of politicians who put party before country even worse. Again, I do not favor banning anything, but that does not mean I can't point out the problems and push against it.
 
Althea said:
In the case of the trump family, do you believe that Lil trump will avoid using the office to funnel tax money directly to the trump coffers?

I don't have faith that he'll be any different than his father.
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If he's not in jail, he might. :)
 
Frank Apisa said:
Trump is without a doubt the most ignorant piece of shit ever to defile the Oval Office. Any active military person...or vet...who votes for him in November should hang his or her head in shame.
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Rebuilt the Military, gave great pay raises, and kept our men, and women, from going into any new wars! He is the Best!
 
Walt said:
Saying that candidates should not be allowed to run, because they have a family member who was President before is saying that a candidate should be banned.

I think Bush 43's problems were not that he had family who had been in politics.
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No, it doesn't anymore than saying "a police officer shouldn't shoot someone 'in self-defense' in the back seven times" is not advocating a ban of police shooting in self-defense.
 
Wolverine said:
Rebuilt the Military, gave great pay raises, and kept our men, and women, from going into any new wars! He is the Best!
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Right, if he actually did all that, meanwhile behind closed doors call soldiers who served and died as “losers” and “suckers,” and the apples don’t fall far from the tree

“Donald Jr. compares Trump family’s ‘sacrifice’ to slain American soldiers on eve of Veterans Day”
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/po...0191108-h6ro6t4s5fhu3iy5elc725lbnu-story.html
 
archives said:
Right, if he actually did all that, meanwhile behind closed doors call soldiers who served and died as “losers” and “suckers,” and the apples don’t fall far from the tree

“Donald Jr. compares Trump family’s ‘sacrifice’ to slain American soldiers on eve of Veterans Day”
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/po...0191108-h6ro6t4s5fhu3iy5elc725lbnu-story.html
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Agreed. Not unexpected from a family that disdains the military. It's a pretty common attitude among New Yorkers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Jr-slammed-soldier-sacrifice-comparison.html
  • Donald Trump Jr. was slammed on Twitter after it was revealed he made the comparison between his family and slain soldiers in his new book
  • He compared the sacrifices of U.S. troops killed in combat to the experiences his family faced when his father was elected president
  • In one part of his book, Don Jr. described visiting Arlington National Cemetery the day before Trump's inauguration in 2017
  • He noted the financial cost his family had faced and the 'huge chunk of our business' they had to give up to get Trump elected
  • Congressman Ruben Gallego, an Iraq war veteran, was among those to slam Don Jr.'s comparison saying that sacrifice was just a word to the Trump family
 
Wolverine said:
Love the Military, just like Trump!
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Wow. Okay. You didn't have to confess to being a lying, draft-dodging coward who thinks those who serve are losers because there's nothing in it for you, but thanks for the confession. :)

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archives said:
“TRUMP: "I'm not saying the military's in love w/ me. The soldiers are, the top people in the Pentagon probably aren't, because they want to do nothing but fight wars so all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs & make the planes & make everything else stay happy." - 9/7/20

Did Donny think his populist theme was going sell in the military, the “drain the swamp” rhetoric, the elitist “us vs them” melodrama, beautiful, he is the Commander and Chief and now he is even attempting to divide the military, is there any institution Trump hasn’t undercut for his own personal ends?



“Trump’s popularity slips in latest Military Times poll — and more troops say they’ll vote for Biden“
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...s-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/

“Military Times Poll: Support For Trump Among Military, Veteran Community Declining“
https://kjzz.org/content/1616009/mi...mp-among-military-veteran-community-declining

“Biden Leads Trump Among Active Duty Troops“
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/poll-joe-biden-leads-trump-among-active-duty-troops/
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Yeah........the Commander in Chief realizes the truth that some simply do not want to admit. Those Pentagon Generals have made an insider killing sending our young men and women into combat.....they have the power to direct enormous military contracts worth billions of dollars (The military industrial complex)......while in uniform they build up their personal nest eggs (contract kickbacks)...after they retire or are fired they go to work for these corporations that make billions from war.

Trump is winding down all the PETRO DOLLAR WARS making these generals mad as hell. WAR IS NOTHING BUT A MONEY LAUNDERING RACKET as defined first by President IKE.

Simply look at the facts.........nearly 3/4 of all retired military officers of high rank go to work for (wink, wink) DEFENSE CONTRACTORS. Of course these insiders would gladly PULL TRUMP out of the white house.........IF THEY COULD.

www.rt.com/usa/defense-contractors-department-government-170/

Their Problem? Mr. Trump is the Commander in Chief and it would be TREASON and SEDITION to even suggest that a US president be forcibly removed.

Anyone that suggests that the military is going to drag Trump from the White House is FULL OF LEFT WING SHIT. Treason is still punishable via HANGING or FIRING SQUAD.
 
Ralph said:
Yeah........the Commander in Chief realizes the truth that some simply do not want to admit. Those Pentagon Generals have made an insider killing sending our young men and women into combat.....they have the power to direct enormous military contracts worth billions of dollars (The military industrial complex)......while in uniform they build up their personal nest eggs (contract kickbacks)...after they retire or are fired they go to work for these corporations that make billions from war.... Treason is still punishable via HANGING or FIRING SQUAD.
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Thanks for anti-American, anti-military conspiracy theory bullshit.

Sometimes it takes awhile for members on this forum to reveal their true face. Thanks for revealing yours.

Ralph said:
....Treason is still punishable via HANGING or FIRING SQUAD.
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Hanging. Hang all traitors like those who denigrate the United States military and attack our Constitution.

If you'd ever served then you'd know a firing squad is a reserved for military executions, not traitors, spies or criminals.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Thanks for anti-American, anti-military conspiracy theory bullshit.

Sometimes it takes awhile for members on this forum to reveal their true face. Thanks for revealing yours.

Hanging. Hang all traitors like those who denigrate the United States military and attack our Constitution.

If you'd ever served then you'd know a firing squad is a reserved for military executions, not traitors, spies or criminals.
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Yeah.....documented evidence is a conspiracy theory. And I did serve.........22 years US ARMY retired. What did you just post or prove? Not a damn why? Because emotional twats spouting hate and propaganda can't debunk or refute.........documented evidence. Such as the fact that 75% of these retired sell out kick back artists now work for the industrial military complex. What? I suppose pointing out the fact that Mr. Trump is THE COMMANDER IN CHEIF and it would be treason and sedition for any of these PENTAGON ASSHOLES to even say they were thinking about removing a duly elected president....is a conspiracy? And yes....hanging for treason is legally precedented. One man was hanged for TREASON for tearing down a US FLAG. (William Mumford). :bigthink:

Do you really believe these COWARDS who are losing money hand over foot because Mr. Trump is removing our military footprint from around the globe...will STORM THE WHITEHOUSE and remove Mr. Trump? :laugh: Guess who the MILITARY will actually OBEY? The Commander in Chief....under penalty of death if they refuse.
 
Ralph said:
Yeah.....documented evidence is a conspiracy theory. And I did serve.........22 years US ARMY retired. What did you just post or prove? Not a damn why? Because emotional twats spouting hate and propaganda can't debunk or refute.........documented evidence. Such as the fact that 75% of these retired sell out kick back artists now work for the industrial military complex. What? I suppose pointing out the fact that Mr. Trump is THE COMMANDER IN CHEIF and it would be treason and sedition for any of these PENTAGON ASSHOLES to even say they were thinking about removing a duly elected president....is a conspiracy? And yes....hanging for treason is legally precedented. One man was hanged for TREASON for tearing down a US FLAG. (William Mumford). :bigthink

Do you really believe these COWARDS who are losing money hand over foot because Mr. Trump is removing our military footprint from around the globe...will STORM THE WHITEHOUSE and remove Mr. Trump? :laugh: Guess who the MILITARY will actually OBEY? The Commander in Chief....under penalty of death if they refuse.
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No doubt you were an MOH recipient and served in every war since "the Big one". The fact remains you are free to claim whatever you like but your actions on this forum will determine your veracity and reputation. All I'm seeing is another anti-military nutjob bitching about conspiracy theories.

All the nonsense you are describing is illegal. If what you claimed were true, then both Trump and Congress are in on the deal because they've never mentioned it until now.
 
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