Which is worse: Russian interference or FBI/CIA/IRS interference?

midcan5 said:
OldMercsRule, you are a genuine dummy, is the mercs for the auto or the plant? Given your dumb OP I guess the plant. So the structures that keep America safe are bad and the Russians who would not give a shat if you lived or died are OK? You're too dumb for further comment, but if you are a Russian troll tell about your country and your dictator president? From time immemorial, through Stalin, now Putin, Russian is a land of serfs and vodka drinkers with a few excellent writers. LOL

For the intelligent reader check out 'Hopeful Monsters' a long read but one that covers Russian thinking et al.

"When one thinks of all the people who support or have supported Fascism, one stands amazed at their diversity. What a crew! Think of a programme which at any rate for a while could bring Hitler, Petain, Montagu Norman, Pavelitch, William Randolph Hearst, Streicher, Buchman, Ezra Pound, Juan March, Cocteau, Thyssen, Father Coughlin, the Mufti of Jerusalem, Arnold Lunn, Antonescu, Spengler, Beverley Nichols, Lady Houston, and Marinetti all into the same boat! But the clue is really very simple. They are all people with something to lose, or people who long for a hierarchical society and dread the prospect of a world of free and equal human beings. Behind all the ballyhoo that is talked about 'godless' Russia and the 'materialism' of the working class lies the simple intention of those with money or privileges to cling to them." George Orwell (http://www.george-orwell.org/Looking_Back_On_The_Spanish_War/0.html)
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Midcan5 you are the real extra stupid dummy Fascist. Nary a worry about the IRS interfering in the election in 2012, or the FBI and CIA working closely with dim wit Democrats to spy on Americans in 2016.

The Russians and many other countries have attempted to harm America for many years, (decades), and clearly they worked hard in 2016. That said the real risk to this Republic is the corrupt deep state Lefties installed and or encouraged by Obamaprompter who infect many of the agencies of the American government.
 
OldMercsRule said:
The dim wit Democrat party paid Fusion GPS to buy dirt on Trump from the Russians: idiot! We don't yet know if the hard Left criminals in the FBI also put tax dollars in the dirty deal.
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Ruh Roh! Newest member of the Illiterate Dumbfuck Club.

Congrats Dumbfuck. The only thing that held you back was the infrequency with which you post. Let's see if you can keep it that way, shitweasel.
 
The allegations of Russian collusion in the last presidential election are serious, and our country is right to have the FBI investigating them.

But at the same time the FBI has to be trusted, or its findings won’t be seen as credible. Recent reports of outspokenly anti-Donald Trump agents formerly serving the bureau in the investigation aren’t helping. Some GOP lawmakers are calling for a second special counsel to investigate the FBI and the Justice Department following the revelation of anti-Trump bias on the part of an FBI agent who worked on both the Hillary Clinton and Trump investigations.

It would be unfortunate if a new special counsel investigation sealed the story in secrecy for months or years longer, just as the final report of an investigation into the DOJ and FBI is about to be made public.

Eight days before Trump was sworn in as president, the inspector general of the Department of Justice opened an investigation into the actions of the Justice Department and the FBI in the probe of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz said his inquiry would look into FBI Director James Comey’s public announcements about the Clinton email investigation and whether some decisions and releases of information were based on “improper considerations.”

It’s the role of an inspector general to investigate possible wrongdoing by government agencies and officials and make the findings public in a report. That’s different from the role of a special counsel, who is a criminal prosecutor conducting an investigation in complete secrecy.

Even after Comey was fired by the president in May, the inspector general’s investigation into his actions as FBI director continued, along with a broader investigation into the decisions and actions of other employees of the Department of Justice and FBI.

The IG’s probe turned up thousands of personal texts between two FBI employees that showed intense anti-Trump bias. Peter Strzok, a former counterintelligence agent who had worked on the Clinton email investigation, had written to his friend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, that Trump was “an idiot,” “a douche” and a “loathsome human.”

At the time of this discovery, Strzok was working on special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump’s alleged collusion with the Russian government.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday that Mueller removed Strzok from the case in July, as soon as he heard about the anti-Trump texts. One text in particular, in which Strzok wrote that “we can’t take that risk” of Trump possibly being elected president, drew the attention of GOP lawmakers.

Separately, Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin, said he obtained an internal FBI copy of Comey’s July 2016 statement in which he declined to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton for the mishandling of classified information. Johnson said the statement showed evidence of edits that watered down the language — the term “grossly negligent” in the original document was changed to “extremely careless,” a crucial legal distinction.

The inspector general’s report is expected to be completed and released to the public in a matter of weeks, and it may shed some light on what was happening inside the FBI and DOJ while voters were casting ballots in primary elections.

If the report shows that individuals in the Justice Department and the FBI engaged in illegal conduct, criminal charges may follow. But first, the public deserves to know what the government has been doing. That shouldn’t be secret any longer.



http://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/16/plots-thicken-in-the-fbi-russia-investigation/
 
God bless America said:
The allegations of Russian collusion in the last presidential election are serious, and our country is right to have the FBI investigating them.

But at the same time the FBI has to be trusted, or its findings won’t be seen as credible. Recent reports of outspokenly anti-Donald Trump agents formerly serving the bureau in the investigation aren’t helping. Some GOP lawmakers are calling for a second special counsel to investigate the FBI and the Justice Department following the revelation of anti-Trump bias on the part of an FBI agent who worked on both the Hillary Clinton and Trump investigations.

It would be unfortunate if a new special counsel investigation sealed the story in secrecy for months or years longer, just as the final report of an investigation into the DOJ and FBI is about to be made public.

Eight days before Trump was sworn in as president, the inspector general of the Department of Justice opened an investigation into the actions of the Justice Department and the FBI in the probe of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state.

Inspector General Michael Horowitz said his inquiry would look into FBI Director James Comey’s public announcements about the Clinton email investigation and whether some decisions and releases of information were based on “improper considerations.”

It’s the role of an inspector general to investigate possible wrongdoing by government agencies and officials and make the findings public in a report. That’s different from the role of a special counsel, who is a criminal prosecutor conducting an investigation in complete secrecy.

Even after Comey was fired by the president in May, the inspector general’s investigation into his actions as FBI director continued, along with a broader investigation into the decisions and actions of other employees of the Department of Justice and FBI.

The IG’s probe turned up thousands of personal texts between two FBI employees that showed intense anti-Trump bias. Peter Strzok, a former counterintelligence agent who had worked on the Clinton email investigation, had written to his friend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, that Trump was “an idiot,” “a douche” and a “loathsome human.”

At the time of this discovery, Strzok was working on special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump’s alleged collusion with the Russian government.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday that Mueller removed Strzok from the case in July, as soon as he heard about the anti-Trump texts. One text in particular, in which Strzok wrote that “we can’t take that risk” of Trump possibly being elected president, drew the attention of GOP lawmakers.

Separately, Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin, said he obtained an internal FBI copy of Comey’s July 2016 statement in which he declined to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton for the mishandling of classified information. Johnson said the statement showed evidence of edits that watered down the language — the term “grossly negligent” in the original document was changed to “extremely careless,” a crucial legal distinction.

The inspector general’s report is expected to be completed and released to the public in a matter of weeks, and it may shed some light on what was happening inside the FBI and DOJ while voters were casting ballots in primary elections.

If the report shows that individuals in the Justice Department and the FBI engaged in illegal conduct, criminal charges may follow. But first, the public deserves to know what the government has been doing. That shouldn’t be secret any longer.



http://www.ocregister.com/2017/12/16/plots-thicken-in-the-fbi-russia-investigation/
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the "inspector general" works for the federal reserve, which is servant to the world bank, which is the global beast establishment [foreign domestic enemies]. what is happening is the testimony of the true nature of the us gov. as the leading beaststate of the global establishment has been exposed by the election of Donald trump. I do not think trump has a clue of the significance of his electoral victory or the enemy he has taken on [the beast]. "who is able to make war with him ?" http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/13.htm [remember sept. 23 and Rev. 12; due date in june] . they are ALL enemies of the real people. everyone must choose. I will wait for Jesus to destroy them all. I am dead already and abide in Christ; they can only destroy my body.
 
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Bigdog said:
Stop pretending you don't hate White Christians. It's the only plank you have left in your party.
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Go ahead and believe what you want. You don't even know me. Most of my family and friends are white Christians.
But if believing what makes you happy rather than the truth helps you sleep at night, knock yourself out (and please make it hurt while you're at it ).

BTW, I don't have a party. It's another thing you've got wrong. You're pretty good at getting things wrong. But then, you've had a lot of practice.
 
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