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The Republican Party is Dying. Old, Racist, and Cannot Grow.
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How are dems penalizing asians? Context? I may not have read something above
blackascoal
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or it could be that the racism has not been exposed yet? Why do racists always run like their ass is on fire from being called racist brother BAC ?
Are you suggesting that Asians aren't as informed as you are?
Do you really believe they don't know about issues that directly affect them?
Harvard admissions investigation prompts mixed reactions
To achieve an exceptional college application has become seemingly more and more difficult -- at least for certain groups of students.
Ben Huynh, a Vietnamese-American born to immigrant parents and raised in Chicago, received a 2400 on his SAT, had perfect grades, held leadership positions and was very involved in his passion for music, all elements of an impeccable application by most standards.
With his outstanding résumé, one would expect him to get into at least one of his top schools, but was rejected from most of them, including Harvard.
“I was a little disappointed,” Huynh said, adding he never once blamed under-represented minorities as part of the problem.
Despite his initial frustration, he said he remains a firm advocate of affirmative action. Though flawed, he said, the policy provides a level of balance that plays only a part in what is a complex and multifaceted admissions process.
Huynh ended up accepting a full ride to University of Chicago and is happy with how things turned out.
Edward Blum, president of Student for Fair Admissions and the legal strategist behind the 2014 lawsuit, formed the non-profit organization with the goal to eliminate racial preferences in college admissions.
Blum praised the investigation as a “welcomed development,” in a statement.
“In order to create true diversity there are far better ways to go about it without raising the bar for some and lowering for others,” Blum told ABC News.
However, some Asian-American students don't see it that way. As a Chinese-American student at Harvard, Raymond Tang said he understood the need for policies like affirmative action and the innate selectivity in elite colleges, especially Ivy League schools.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if I didn’t get into Harvard, because I expect it to be hard to get in,” Tang told ABC News.
With a 2340 SAT score, six Hong Kong national medals in figure skating and numerous other successes in academia and the arts, Tiffany Lau is also a student with impeccable qualifications.
Now a 20-year-old History & Literature and Theater, Dance & Media major at Harvard, she too, emphasized the expected competitiveness in college admissions. Lau said she believes any applicant, regardless of race, should be expected to have “more than just great scores and impressive resume.”
In order to examine a person as a whole, she said, one must evaluate the components that make up the person’s identity. And that’s why she would not support a race-blind admissions process, “as an individual’s race is a central part of how they navigate the world, how they grew up and who they are,” said Lau.
Similarly, Tang said he believes schools are justified to accept students for different reasons.
“If there wasn’t a way to accommodate different experiences, they’ll end up with a homogeneous pool of students,” he said.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-Racist-and-Cannot-Grow&p=2194418#post2194418
Point being, attacks on affirmative action isn't coming from Asian-Americans. It's coming from a white republican who wants to dismantle AA AND voting rights. I doubt he gives a rats ass about Asian students. He's just trying to use them for his own agenda.
I repeat, I suggest that you are grossly misreading what Asian-Americans think .. or does what they think not count?
Argue this ..
.. you can't.
Are you suggesting that Asians aren't as informed as you are?
Do you really believe they don't know about issues that directly affect them?
Harvard admissions investigation prompts mixed reactions
To achieve an exceptional college application has become seemingly more and more difficult -- at least for certain groups of students.
Ben Huynh, a Vietnamese-American born to immigrant parents and raised in Chicago, received a 2400 on his SAT, had perfect grades, held leadership positions and was very involved in his passion for music, all elements of an impeccable application by most standards.
With his outstanding résumé, one would expect him to get into at least one of his top schools, but was rejected from most of them, including Harvard.
“I was a little disappointed,” Huynh said, adding he never once blamed under-represented minorities as part of the problem.
Despite his initial frustration, he said he remains a firm advocate of affirmative action. Though flawed, he said, the policy provides a level of balance that plays only a part in what is a complex and multifaceted admissions process.
Huynh ended up accepting a full ride to University of Chicago and is happy with how things turned out.
Edward Blum, president of Student for Fair Admissions and the legal strategist behind the 2014 lawsuit, formed the non-profit organization with the goal to eliminate racial preferences in college admissions.
Blum praised the investigation as a “welcomed development,” in a statement.
“In order to create true diversity there are far better ways to go about it without raising the bar for some and lowering for others,” Blum told ABC News.
However, some Asian-American students don't see it that way. As a Chinese-American student at Harvard, Raymond Tang said he understood the need for policies like affirmative action and the innate selectivity in elite colleges, especially Ivy League schools.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if I didn’t get into Harvard, because I expect it to be hard to get in,” Tang told ABC News.
With a 2340 SAT score, six Hong Kong national medals in figure skating and numerous other successes in academia and the arts, Tiffany Lau is also a student with impeccable qualifications.
Now a 20-year-old History & Literature and Theater, Dance & Media major at Harvard, she too, emphasized the expected competitiveness in college admissions. Lau said she believes any applicant, regardless of race, should be expected to have “more than just great scores and impressive resume.”
In order to examine a person as a whole, she said, one must evaluate the components that make up the person’s identity. And that’s why she would not support a race-blind admissions process, “as an individual’s race is a central part of how they navigate the world, how they grew up and who they are,” said Lau.
Similarly, Tang said he believes schools are justified to accept students for different reasons.
“If there wasn’t a way to accommodate different experiences, they’ll end up with a homogeneous pool of students,” he said.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-Racist-and-Cannot-Grow&p=2194418#post2194418
Point being, attacks on affirmative action isn't coming from Asian-Americans. It's coming from a white republican who wants to dismantle AA AND voting rights. I doubt he gives a rats ass about Asian students. He's just trying to use them for his own agenda.
I repeat, I suggest that you are grossly misreading what Asian-Americans think .. or does what they think not count?
Argue this ..
.. you can't.
Im glad that the two people you mention are self aware enough to realize that the Democrats are discriminating against them. They just happen to be fine with it. I hope more Asians can realize how the Democrats are stacking the deck against them as well.
blackascoal
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Conservative Columnist David Brooks: The GOP is rotting.
Conservative David Brooks did not pull any punches as he excoriated the Republican Party as they continue their rot. Brooks' scathing piece titled "The G.O.P. Is Rotting," is a must-read.
Now it’s clear that middle ground doesn’t exist. That’s because Donald Trump never stops asking. First, he asked the party to swallow the idea of a narcissistic sexual harasser and a routine liar as its party leader. Then he asked the party to accept his comprehensive ignorance and his politics of racial division. Now he asks the party to give up its reputation for fiscal conservatism. At the same time he asks the party to become the party of Roy Moore, the party of bigotry, alleged sexual harassment and child assault.
There is no end to what Trump will ask of his party. He is defined by shamelessness, and so there is no bottom. And apparently there is no end to what regular Republicans are willing to give him. Trump may soon ask them to accept his firing of Robert Mueller, and yes, after some sighing, they will accept that, too.
That’s the way these corrupt bargains always work. You think you’re only giving your tormentor a little piece of yourself, but he keeps asking and asking, and before long he owns your entire soul. The Republican Party is doing harm to every cause it purports to serve.
He scolded Republicans for wrapping themselves in Trumpism.
You don’t help your cause by wrapping your arms around an alleged sexual predator and a patriarchic bigot. You don’t help your cause by putting the pursuit of power above character, by worshiping at the feet of some loutish man or another, by claiming the ends justify any means. You don’t successfully rationalize your own tawdriness by claiming your opponents are satanic. You don’t save Christianity by betraying its message.
Brooks closed by attacking the anti-intellectualism of both the party's policies and the party proper.
Today’s tax cuts have no bipartisan support. They have no intellectual grounding, no body of supporting evidence. They do not respond to the central crisis of our time. They have no vision of the common good, except that Republican donors should get more money and Democratic donors should have less. The rot afflicting the G.O.P. is comprehensive — moral, intellectual, political and reputational. More and more former Republicans wake up every day and realize: “I’m homeless. I’m politically homeless.”
https://egbertowillies.com/2017/12/08/conservative-david-brooks-slams-gop/
Conservative David Brooks did not pull any punches as he excoriated the Republican Party as they continue their rot. Brooks' scathing piece titled "The G.O.P. Is Rotting," is a must-read.
Now it’s clear that middle ground doesn’t exist. That’s because Donald Trump never stops asking. First, he asked the party to swallow the idea of a narcissistic sexual harasser and a routine liar as its party leader. Then he asked the party to accept his comprehensive ignorance and his politics of racial division. Now he asks the party to give up its reputation for fiscal conservatism. At the same time he asks the party to become the party of Roy Moore, the party of bigotry, alleged sexual harassment and child assault.
There is no end to what Trump will ask of his party. He is defined by shamelessness, and so there is no bottom. And apparently there is no end to what regular Republicans are willing to give him. Trump may soon ask them to accept his firing of Robert Mueller, and yes, after some sighing, they will accept that, too.
That’s the way these corrupt bargains always work. You think you’re only giving your tormentor a little piece of yourself, but he keeps asking and asking, and before long he owns your entire soul. The Republican Party is doing harm to every cause it purports to serve.
He scolded Republicans for wrapping themselves in Trumpism.
You don’t help your cause by wrapping your arms around an alleged sexual predator and a patriarchic bigot. You don’t help your cause by putting the pursuit of power above character, by worshiping at the feet of some loutish man or another, by claiming the ends justify any means. You don’t successfully rationalize your own tawdriness by claiming your opponents are satanic. You don’t save Christianity by betraying its message.
Brooks closed by attacking the anti-intellectualism of both the party's policies and the party proper.
Today’s tax cuts have no bipartisan support. They have no intellectual grounding, no body of supporting evidence. They do not respond to the central crisis of our time. They have no vision of the common good, except that Republican donors should get more money and Democratic donors should have less. The rot afflicting the G.O.P. is comprehensive — moral, intellectual, political and reputational. More and more former Republicans wake up every day and realize: “I’m homeless. I’m politically homeless.”
https://egbertowillies.com/2017/12/08/conservative-david-brooks-slams-gop/
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
This is more than just about two people .. as the chart clearly demonstrates. Look at those numbers.
You should stop waiting on non-white people to save the Republican Party. That's never going to happen.
evince
Truthmatters
GOP Memo Admits Plan Could 'Keep Black Vote Down'
October 25, 1986|From the Washington Post
NEWARK, N.J. — A Republican National Committee official calculated that a so-called ballot security program in Louisiana "could keep the black vote down considerably," according to documents released in federal court Friday.
The documents and court hearing were the latest developments in a controversy over the GOP's ballot program that Democrats maintain is aimed at reducing minority turnout. The Republicans say the program's sole purpose is to purge ineligible voters from voting roles.
In an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:
"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."
Unseals Document
She said in the memorandum that the program had been approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe.
Wolfe testified that she wrote about the possibility of keeping the black vote down to remind Griffith that there "might be a political situation he might want to consider. . . . I wanted him to be aware of the political considerations."
The Democrats are suing the Republican Party for $10 million, charging that the Republican National Committee ballot security programs--a method of assuring that voters reside at their listed addresses--violated a 1981 consent agreement signed by both parties.
Under the agreement, the Republican committee would "refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial composition of such districts is a factor."
Debevoise refused to issue a restraining order requiring the GOP to stop all similar activity.
Accepts Lawyers' Word
The judge said he accepted the word of Republican lawyers who told him all ballot security programs have been stopped, including an effort the Democrats say singled out predominantly black and Latino precincts in Pontiac, Mich.
In testimony Friday, Mark Braden, the Republican National Committee's chief counsel and the organizer of the ballot security program, said he repeatedly sought to make it clear to subordinates that "race was a factor that could not be used. I would instill the fear of God in them. . . . I'm not an idiot, this is a big press issue, and it's a big legal issue."
The committee's ballot security program was conducted in Louisiana, Indiana and Missouri. Before it became controversial, GOP political strategists said they planned to use it in other states.
'Insidious Scheme'
Louisiana state District Court Judge Richard E. Lee issued an injunction against the program on Oct. 14. In his order, Lee said: "This was an insidious scheme by the Republican Party to remove blacks from the voting roles."
October 25, 1986|From the Washington Post
NEWARK, N.J. — A Republican National Committee official calculated that a so-called ballot security program in Louisiana "could keep the black vote down considerably," according to documents released in federal court Friday.
The documents and court hearing were the latest developments in a controversy over the GOP's ballot program that Democrats maintain is aimed at reducing minority turnout. The Republicans say the program's sole purpose is to purge ineligible voters from voting roles.
In an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:
"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."
Unseals Document
She said in the memorandum that the program had been approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe.
Wolfe testified that she wrote about the possibility of keeping the black vote down to remind Griffith that there "might be a political situation he might want to consider. . . . I wanted him to be aware of the political considerations."
The Democrats are suing the Republican Party for $10 million, charging that the Republican National Committee ballot security programs--a method of assuring that voters reside at their listed addresses--violated a 1981 consent agreement signed by both parties.
Under the agreement, the Republican committee would "refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial composition of such districts is a factor."
Debevoise refused to issue a restraining order requiring the GOP to stop all similar activity.
Accepts Lawyers' Word
The judge said he accepted the word of Republican lawyers who told him all ballot security programs have been stopped, including an effort the Democrats say singled out predominantly black and Latino precincts in Pontiac, Mich.
In testimony Friday, Mark Braden, the Republican National Committee's chief counsel and the organizer of the ballot security program, said he repeatedly sought to make it clear to subordinates that "race was a factor that could not be used. I would instill the fear of God in them. . . . I'm not an idiot, this is a big press issue, and it's a big legal issue."
The committee's ballot security program was conducted in Louisiana, Indiana and Missouri. Before it became controversial, GOP political strategists said they planned to use it in other states.
'Insidious Scheme'
Louisiana state District Court Judge Richard E. Lee issued an injunction against the program on Oct. 14. In his order, Lee said: "This was an insidious scheme by the Republican Party to remove blacks from the voting roles."
evince
Truthmatters
n an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:
"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."
"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."
evince
Truthmatters
Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director
wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director"
approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
right from the very TOP of the party
wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director"
approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
right from the very TOP of the party
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Republicans are all about exclusion, not inclusion. They are hated because of it. One reason why they cannot grow.
Getin the ring
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We grew to 306 electoral votes, how's that, racist? Big enough for you?
evince
Truthmatters
We grew to 306 electoral votes, how's that, racist? Big enough for you?
thanks to Putin fake news
evince
Truthmatters
they can never get the vote or even respect of American voters of color with these actions
they are a dying dinosaur lapping at the TAR they willingly walked into
they are bleeding out from stabbing themselves to death
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
FiveThirtyEight: The End Of A Republican Party
Racial and cultural resentment have replaced the party’s small government ethos.
Legend has it that after leveling Carthage in the Third Punic War, Roman army generals ordered that the city’s fields be sown with salt so that they’d lie fallow for years, Roman generals not being particularly well known for their benevolence in victory.
Many Republicans think Donald Trump’s nomination is doing roughly the same thing to their party: destroying any chance for growth it once had and leaving the GOP to wither and die on Trump vineyard vines.
“My general sense, looking at this election, is that what we’re witnessing here is the end of something much more than the beginning of something,” Yuval Levin, editor of the conservative policy journal National Affairs, told me recently.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-end-of-a-republican-party/
Racial and cultural resentment have replaced the party’s small government ethos.
Legend has it that after leveling Carthage in the Third Punic War, Roman army generals ordered that the city’s fields be sown with salt so that they’d lie fallow for years, Roman generals not being particularly well known for their benevolence in victory.
Many Republicans think Donald Trump’s nomination is doing roughly the same thing to their party: destroying any chance for growth it once had and leaving the GOP to wither and die on Trump vineyard vines.
“My general sense, looking at this election, is that what we’re witnessing here is the end of something much more than the beginning of something,” Yuval Levin, editor of the conservative policy journal National Affairs, told me recently.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-end-of-a-republican-party/
i think the GOP should make a serious play for asians tbh.
evince
Truthmatters
a new right leaning party will emerge
I say its likely to be named something like the independent conservative party
the republican party will be the racist KKK alt right party
they will take votes from the new conservative party and they will be mortal enemies until the racist one dies
I say its likely to be named something like the independent conservative party
the republican party will be the racist KKK alt right party
they will take votes from the new conservative party and they will be mortal enemies until the racist one dies