cawacko
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It has nothing to do with him and no one said it did. The point is unless you know the future legislation passed in 2017 has nothing to do with a decision made in 2015.
Harley Davidson shutting down US factory, moving jobs to Bangkok ................
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It has nothing to do with him and no one said it did. The point is unless you know the future legislation passed in 2017 has nothing to do with a decision made in 2015.
Pay attention to what I wrote, not what's in your fevered imagination. "Of course I think costs play a role but that wasn't my point. Did trump lie about punishing companies that move overseas?"
trump let you suckers believe he was looking out for you and that could not be more of a lie.
You don't?
In his acceptance of the DEMOCRAT presidential nomination last Thursday, Senator Barack Obama promised to deny tax breaks to companies that send American jobs overseas. Obama said that as president, he "will stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America."
https://www.cio.com/article/2433945/offshoring/obama-speaks-out-against-offshore-outsourcing.html
Superfreak brought up Obama as if it did.
#32 "Especially given we know this was planned long ago while Obama was still in office."
#47 "Then look and see that this decision was done under OBAMA."
"Ending tax deductions for companies shipping jobs overseas, and using the saving to create a new tax credit for companies that bring jobs home."
Source: "A Plan for Jobs and Middle-Class Security"
We rate this Promise Broken.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/1113/end-tax-deductions-companies-offshore/
Source: "A Plan for Jobs and Middle-Class Security"
We rate this Promise Broken.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/1113/end-tax-deductions-companies-offshore/
...not to mention 60% tariffs. Amazing how the snowflakes erupt over Trumps claims about tariffs on importers and are just fine when other countries screw us.
He didn't say a thing; Obama was fine when foreign nations screwed us. We shouldn't be.
cawacko
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It's not blaming Obama. It's using him as a reference that he was President when the decision was made. Stating that isn't saying Obama had anything to do with their decision. It's a point of reference for time.
The OP is lying by saying this decision was made because of the tax cuts. That's what this whole discussion is about.
Another Obama lie; so many lies. Why didn't the snowflakes whine about them like they are now?
I read the thread and the links, I know what it's about. I was questioning what trump would do because of his previous comments about punishment.
Christiecrite is kind of thick. In both senses.
In your fevered imagination.
Liar; you just want to whine about him like the whiny lying little hypocrite retard that you are.
Oh, but he did.
Obama: Offshoring Fears Are Outdated, Unwarranted
The perception that Indian operations cost U.S. jobs is an old stereotype that ignores today's reality that two-way trade between the U.S. and India is helping create jobs and raise the standard of living in both countries, U.S. President Barack Obama told a gathering of business executives in Mumbai on Saturday. President Obama's remarks come after some moves in the U.S. that had Indian outsourcers worried that the U.S. may get protectionist in the wake of job losses in the country. Ohio, for example, banned earlier this year the expenditure of public funds for offshore purposes.
Obama's speech is a recognition that jobs cannot be created by protectionism.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/209970/president_obama_offshoring_fears_are_outdated_unwarranted.html
cawacko
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I have no clue but as far as SF and I that's what we were discussing. The dishonesty of the OP.
^ You may believe that, I don't. None of us here are so clueless that we don't know when Obama was president.
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In spite of, not because of.
"Despite President Donald Trump’s claim that massive tax cuts will boost U.S. employment numbers, motorcycle manufacturer Harley Davidson instead announced a plant closing, followed by a massive stock buy-back and is now shifting some jobs to Thailand. "
cawacko
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To understand if we are on the same page, did you see the Snopes article I posted? It shows Bourbon OP is a lie. Do you disagree with that?
According to President Barack Obama, Indian companies such as those in Bangalore have been a significant beneficiary of U.S. tax laws and the President aims to change that. The U.S. has created "a tax code that says you should pay lower taxes if you create a job in Bangalore, India, than if you create one in Buffalo, N.Y.," Obama said. Current U.S. tax policy gives companies that create jobs overseas the capability to take deductions on expenses "when they do not pay any American taxes on their profits," he added.
However, most analysts, industry practitioners and tax advisors suggest that federal tax policy changes proposed by Obama may not curb the outsourcing trend or achieve his goal of persuading companies to reduce their expansions to offshore locations.
Peter Bendor-Samuel, CEO of Everest Group, a Dallas based outsourcing consultancy, suggested that the most significant motivation to transfer work abroad is the large difference among salaries in the U.S. and many other countries. Jobs in locations such as India or China may cost only one-sixth that amount when compared to the United States, Bendor-Samuel said.
http://www.outsourcecompare.com/obama.htm
However, most analysts, industry practitioners and tax advisors suggest that federal tax policy changes proposed by Obama may not curb the outsourcing trend or achieve his goal of persuading companies to reduce their expansions to offshore locations.
Peter Bendor-Samuel, CEO of Everest Group, a Dallas based outsourcing consultancy, suggested that the most significant motivation to transfer work abroad is the large difference among salaries in the U.S. and many other countries. Jobs in locations such as India or China may cost only one-sixth that amount when compared to the United States, Bendor-Samuel said.
http://www.outsourcecompare.com/obama.htm
cawacko
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I don't know how many more times I can say it has nothing to do with Obama.
I get it, y'all don't like tax cuts. Fair enough. They are anathema to most liberals so when Bourbon posts a dishonest honest article from rawstory blaming this move planned in 2015 on tax cuts you jump on it in support because it fits your narrative.