Democratic Presidents saw more jobs created in the aggregate than Republican Presidents over the last 40 years.
The economy also performs better during Democratic Presidents than Republican ones over the last 40 years, Trump even said so himself:
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Democratic Presidents saw more jobs created in the aggregate than Republican Presidents over the last 40 years.
The economy also performs better during Democratic Presidents than Republican ones over the last 40 years, Trump even said so himself:
I asked you to cite statistical evidence, didn't I?
Looks like ISAP can't be expanded to all illegals
Intensive Supervision Assistance Program (ISAP) is an alternative to detention that ensures close and frequent contact with someone granted supervised release. A person subjected to these programs typically has to make regular visits to an ICE officer or subcontractor and check in through telephone calls.
Many people are also required to wear an ankle bracelet, and are subject to curfew and other reporting requirements.
These programs are utilized on people who have final orders of removal but who ICE cannot effectuate deportation against (for example, because of lack of travel documents, or a country’s refusal or inability to accept an immigrant).
http://familiesforfreedom.org/sites/default/files/resources/Deportation101Manual-FINAL%2020100712-small.pdf
Intensive Supervision Assistance Program (ISAP) is an alternative to detention that ensures close and frequent contact with someone granted supervised release. A person subjected to these programs typically has to make regular visits to an ICE officer or subcontractor and check in through telephone calls.
Many people are also required to wear an ankle bracelet, and are subject to curfew and other reporting requirements.
These programs are utilized on people who have final orders of removal but who ICE cannot effectuate deportation against (for example, because of lack of travel documents, or a country’s refusal or inability to accept an immigrant).
http://familiesforfreedom.org/sites/default/files/resources/Deportation101Manual-FINAL%2020100712-small.pdf
That's correct. And when pressed for details, you refuse to provide because you can't, because you didn't do the work of vetting your source properly before shitting it out here. And you did that because you're sloppy, lazy, and lack a work ethic.
Per Cato, from ISAP II data in 2012: ISAP II data in 2012, the last year for which data is reliably available, showed that 17,524 people left the program. Of those, 4.9 percent absconded and 4 percent were arrested by other law enforcement agencies. The other 91.1 percent complied with their court orders and either left the country or earned some sort of legal status. Appearance rates at immigration courts were 99.6 percent.
99.6? You said 99.8%. Where did "ISAPII data" derive the 99.6% stat?
Meanwhile,
On its Web site, ICE boasts a 99 percent appearance rate in immigration court for participants in its restrictive Intensive Supervision Appearance Program (ISAP). Yet records maintained by private contractors that administer ISAP show they were “unable to locate” 18 percent of 6,373 illegal immigrants who passed through the program between 2004 and the end of January. Five percent were re-arrested by ICE, records show.
https://cis.org/Moving-Toward-More-Effective-Immigration-Detention-Management
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Do you think that is different from people on the right? I have seen a hive like mentality among many who call themselves conservatives. They doggedly adhere to certain notions because they believe that is what Republicans are supposed to believe.
For example, the believe in the notion of free trade so take it as good faith that all trade deals are good and work out. I admit, I used to think that too, but reality has a way of adjusting ones thinking.
While I firmly believe in free trade, I don't believe in free trade deals
The arguments against ISAP are legion
Alternatives to detention are not even plausible subjects for experiment unless the criminal penalties for failing to appear are employed.
Only when ordinary absconders – who aren't sexual predators or terrorists but just illegal aliens who ignore their court dates – are routinely given stiff prison sentences can alternatives to detention even be plausibly considered.
The pervasive unwillingness of illegal aliens to comply with immigration law in the absence of detention is not surprising.
Unlike in the criminal justice setting, where failing to appear often results in additional penalties, a final order of removal is all an illegal alien realistically faces, whether he shows up to immigration court or not.
Though the law provides for imprisonment of up to 10 years for aliens who fail to appear at their hearings, the chances that an immigration absconder not involved in additional crimes will be prosecuted are vanishingly small.
Furthermore, those failing to appear for immigration proceedings are likely to avoid detection for many years, perhaps for the rest of their lives, given authorities' still-frivolous approach to tracking down immigration absconders.
For example, under pressure from advocacy groups, many police departments refuse to serve ICE administrative warrants issued to absconders, thus shielding the scofflaws from facing the consequences of failing to depart.
Thus, alternatives to detention are simply irrelevant for those likely to be rejected for asylum or cancellation of removal – i.e. the majority of those in removal proceedings.
In other words, "alternatives to detention" is simply a synonym for "catch and release."
https://cis.org/Moving-Toward-More-Effective-Immigration-Detention-Management
Alternatives to detention are not even plausible subjects for experiment unless the criminal penalties for failing to appear are employed.
Only when ordinary absconders – who aren't sexual predators or terrorists but just illegal aliens who ignore their court dates – are routinely given stiff prison sentences can alternatives to detention even be plausibly considered.
The pervasive unwillingness of illegal aliens to comply with immigration law in the absence of detention is not surprising.
Unlike in the criminal justice setting, where failing to appear often results in additional penalties, a final order of removal is all an illegal alien realistically faces, whether he shows up to immigration court or not.
Though the law provides for imprisonment of up to 10 years for aliens who fail to appear at their hearings, the chances that an immigration absconder not involved in additional crimes will be prosecuted are vanishingly small.
Furthermore, those failing to appear for immigration proceedings are likely to avoid detection for many years, perhaps for the rest of their lives, given authorities' still-frivolous approach to tracking down immigration absconders.
For example, under pressure from advocacy groups, many police departments refuse to serve ICE administrative warrants issued to absconders, thus shielding the scofflaws from facing the consequences of failing to depart.
Thus, alternatives to detention are simply irrelevant for those likely to be rejected for asylum or cancellation of removal – i.e. the majority of those in removal proceedings.
In other words, "alternatives to detention" is simply a synonym for "catch and release."
https://cis.org/Moving-Toward-More-Effective-Immigration-Detention-Management
Here's BLS, calculate away.
Total Employment (000) - Reagan
Jan 1981: 99,995
Jan 1989: 116,708
+16,713
Total Employment (000) - Bush 41
Jan 1989: 116,708
Jan 1993: 119,075
+2,367
Total Employment (000) - Clinton
Jan 1993: 116,708
Jan 2001: 137,778
+21,070
Total Employment (000) - Bush 43
Jan 2001: 137,778
Jan 2009: 142,152
+4,374
Total Employment (000) - Obama
Jan 2009: 142,152
Jan 2017: 152,076
+9,924
Total Employment (000) - Trump
Jan 2017: 152,076
May 2018: 155,474
+3,398
Clinton + Obama (000) = 30,994
Reagan + Bush 41 + Bush 43 + Trump (000) = 26,852
Republican Presidents were in office for 21.5 years and created 27 million jobs.
Democratic Presidents were in office for 16 years and created 31 million jobs.
So objectively, Democratic Presidents are better than Republicans at creating jobs.
I answered the question that you asked, which specifically mentioned liberals.
You stated that typically when Conservatives stop running things, they become more effective didn't you?
Yet the BLS statistics you cited don't impute any partisan causality to job creation, and only address one aspect of "running things".
Do you know what "typically" means?
Don't you know?
And that bears it out in the employment numbers. Kick Conservatives out of office, and things get better.
LOL!
Oh my poor, poor Nazi. Facts can't be disputed, and facts show that Democrats are much better for jobs and the economy than Republicans. Even Trump said so.
Apparently you don't since you're cutting that kind of detail out of your posts. It's almost like you're trying to establish a false narrative using cherry-picked data to support an argument you can't support by honest means.
That's because you're a Nazi and Nazis aren't honest people.
Looks like ISAP may not be the panacea some think it should be
Immigrations Customs and Enforcement (ICE) no longer supervises some of the immigrants originally placed in ISAP, and does not always re-arrest those immigrants who violate the program’s terms.
Additionally, DHS has revealed that over 5,000 of the ISAP participants were either arrested for committing crimes or absconded from the program altogether over a three-year program.
The consensus is that the program has been difficult to maintain, both due to the time-consuming, resource-intensive risk assessment used to place immigrants into ISAP, as well as the lack of funding for field offices to re-detain immigrants who were noncompliant with the program.
http://www.landerholmimmigration.com/intensive-supervision-aliens-program/
Immigrations Customs and Enforcement (ICE) no longer supervises some of the immigrants originally placed in ISAP, and does not always re-arrest those immigrants who violate the program’s terms.
Additionally, DHS has revealed that over 5,000 of the ISAP participants were either arrested for committing crimes or absconded from the program altogether over a three-year program.
The consensus is that the program has been difficult to maintain, both due to the time-consuming, resource-intensive risk assessment used to place immigrants into ISAP, as well as the lack of funding for field offices to re-detain immigrants who were noncompliant with the program.
http://www.landerholmimmigration.com/intensive-supervision-aliens-program/
I posted the link to the source.
How is the date relevant? Is there an expiry rule on citations?
I'll understand if you can't explain.
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... and you're (I Love America) absoluetly correct, so I had to avoid anything that pointed back toward my chosen affiliation group.
Sorry, I was mistaken.....so are you.
37% do not show up.
Plus "...almost a million deportation orders issued by federal immigration judges - 953,506 to be exact - have not been enforced by ICE. That is a 58 percent increase since 2002. Bottom line, immigrants who are here illegally believe that they can stay here illegally even when they have been ordered removed. Why? Because the federal government has in the past chosen to ignore these orders."
And "... the Department of Justice has been manipulating the statistics it reports to Congress to cover up the staggeringly high failure-to-appear rate. When DOJ reported statistical data on the percentage of illegal immigrants who failed to appear in court, they made the number look misleadingly smaller by including detained aliens in the total number."
https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/no-more-catch-and-release-illegal-immigrants 4/9/17
It does? Is there a statistically-provable causality between the political affiliation of the POTUS and "employment numbers"?
Cite it if you can.
I'll understand if you can't.
Anecdotal evidence at best.
Is there a statistically-provable causality between political affiliation and "jobs and the economy"?
I noticed you dodged taking responsibility for the sweeping generalization you unwisely uttered.