SouthernUnkleRitchie
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Hmm, an interesting ban list. An equal opportunity banner, I presume?
A two part question for those considering Socialism
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SouthernUnkleRitchie
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Hmm, an interesting ban list. An equal opportunity banner, I presume?
SouthernUnkleRitchie
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precisely, indeed!
Socialism applies to the means of production and distribution and not government services like schools. The people chip in to support public schools with money they earned from capitalism.
Mason Michaels
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SouthernUnkleRitchie
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Part 1): Can you name just one thing* in your home that is not there as a result of capitalism?
As explained in OP, a ‘thing’ is not a living being.
Part 2): Can you name just one modern, full time, wage-paying job that you could have today, if rich capitalists never existed?
The question was about a modern, full time, wage-paying job that you could have today, if rich capitalists never existed. As a dog trainer you would need a variety of implements and tools, since you would not be employable if you stood in a field bare ass naked. These would include clothes, shoes, hat, gloves, and according to this page, a clicker, a target stick or spoon, portable mat, collar and harness, treats, a long line and barriers. All these are manufactured by private companies and corporations, transported by truck, train or ship and sold in retail shops or stores. The number of private companies involved, including the mining corporations needed to mine the raw materials, trees harvested for the wood, petroleum industries for plastic, and all the companies needed to make the machines used to mine, transport, package, etc., comes up to hundreds or even thousands. Don’t believe me? Take just one item – the dog collar – and let’s check out the long list of capitalist corporations:
This doesn't include all the companies you need to provide all the trucks, mining machines, tools etc. needed in all those industries, and so on. Without capitalism you would be standing in a field of weeds, naked, with dirty fingernails and an empty stomach. That won’t lead to a full time modern wage-paying job by any stretch of the imagination.
The human race started as hunters and gatherers then along came Acme, poof, we were enslaved by them.
Fentoine Lum
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We're not considering socialism, we embraced it long ago, the rub as always is that the aristocracy wants it all for themselves alone. Corporate socialism is quite accepted. Pro sports team owners for example are eager recipients of socialism. The public funds their cathedral stadiums.
Flash: Socialism applies to the means of production and distribution and not government services like Health Care. The people chip in to support public Health Care with money they earned from capitalism.
Jack: Thanks Flash. I like where you're coming from.
The VA is government health care. Medicare and Medicaid are private (capitalist) with private doctors, hospitals, drug manufacturers...
News*Flash (to Flash): Grumpy IS a Veteran.
Rob Larrikin
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Part 1): Can you name just one thing* in your home that is not there as a result of capitalism?
Part 2): Can you name just one modern, full time, wage-paying job that you could have today, if rich capitalists never existed?
For a modern full time wage paying position as a ‘wage payer’ (payroll office) you’ll need a similar list as the one provided in pages above. For instance, an office with a desk, adding machine, calculator, chair, computer, paper pads, pens, pencils, eraser, paper clips, scotch tape, stapler, folders filing cabinet, lights, electrical power, air conditioning, windows, doors, locks, smart phone, printed money, envelopes, and so on. All these are made by private companies or corporations which are mostly owned by rich capitalists.
As explained in OP, a ‘thing’ is not a living being.
Part 2): Can you name just one modern, full time, wage-paying job that you could have today, if rich capitalists never existed?
For a modern full time wage paying position as a ‘wage payer’ (payroll office) you’ll need a similar list as the one provided in pages above. For instance, an office with a desk, adding machine, calculator, chair, computer, paper pads, pens, pencils, eraser, paper clips, scotch tape, stapler, folders filing cabinet, lights, electrical power, air conditioning, windows, doors, locks, smart phone, printed money, envelopes, and so on. All these are made by private companies or corporations which are mostly owned by rich capitalists.
Irish Exit
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fine
1) the mud I track in
2) "wage paying" turns your question into a circular game. It is like asking "Name one thing you have purchased not using money or credit."
hvilleherb
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We're better than Canada, so why would we want to adapt their inferior healthcare system?
Rob Larrikin
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Communists copied most of their technology from capitalists. Here are just a few examples. As for ‘getting sputnik up there’, for a start the satellite itself was a collection of technologies developed by capitalists. It included a heat shield made of aluminium-magnesium-titanium AMG6T alloy. This material was developed by a variety of companies and corporations in the West, and you can see details here. It also included two pairs of antennas, and once again, antennas were developed by capitalists in the West. You can see details here and here. It also included three silver-zinc batteries.
Quotes from NASA:
“In the late 1920s, French Professor Henri André finally made the first practical silver-zinc battery…”
“During World War II, the U.S. military, especially the Navy and Air Force, advanced effective silver-zinc primary—or non-rechargeable—batteries, which it still uses to power submarines, torpedoes, missile propulsion systems, and other devices.”
“During World War II, the U.S. military, especially the Navy and Air Force, advanced effective silver-zinc primary—or non-rechargeable—batteries, which it still uses to power submarines, torpedoes, missile propulsion systems, and other devices.”
I can keep going, as there are many other technologies copied, both in the satellite and in the rocket that would take it up to space.
"What Is the Soyuz?"
"The Soyuz (saw-yooz) is a Russian spacecraft. The Soyuz carries people and supplies to and from the space station. The Soyuz can also bring people back to Earth.
Russia is a big country. Russia helps the United States run the International Space Station. Other countries also help with the space station. But only Russian spacecraft carry people to it right now."
https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/k-4/stories/nasa-knows/what-is-the-soyuz-spacecraft-k-4
I don't know, Rob. These Commie bastards look like they may know something.
Cancel 2019.1
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Cancel 2019.1
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Medicare and Medicaid are government funded insurance
Fentoine Lum
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Yeah, Don's confused on why those kinda nonshithole nation folk don't wanna immigrate.
Fentoine Lum
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Because their health care system is better than ours/yours, and since they have a single payer system and can leverage lower negotiated prices for pharma products, US pharma companies recoup those "losses" via charging Americans more.