Nike, Nike, Nike!

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He's getting $$...but he's not winning anything but $$ (which is fine...he doesn't have a J.O.B after all)....all focus on whatever he was "protesting" has been lost in the shuffle..
There are a hundred versions of that ad/slogan mocking it....everywhere....

I think too many people are thinking in terms of immediate results - as though it's a linear solution: Kap kneels in protest, and right away we should see vast improvement in terms of equal treatment under the law.

History doesn't work that way. Change can be slow, painstaking and often characterized by taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

Getting the conversation started is a huge step, and an absolutely huge accomplishment for 1 individual.

 

[cawacko]

I've been correcting you since this issue first surfaced. It doesn't seem to have done any good.

I'm good with whatever you think for you .. just don't attempt to speak for me because you're not learning.

Yes Nike made Jordan a billionaire as well as making a lot of white people wealthy. You have a problem with that? I don't.

Yes I disagree that real change comes from owning a black gym shoe company as long as we are moving to own other areas of economic empowerment.

2018 Is Shaping Up as a Pivotal Year for African-American Entrepreneurship

According to the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce, “African-American businesses have grown at an exponential rate in the 21st century.” Four months in and 2018 is already shaping up to be a banner year for African-American entrepreneurship. Currently there are nearly 2.6 million African-American-owned businesses in the U.S., and now there are countless platforms, programs, initiatives and conferences in place to support such exponential growth.

Kezia Williams is a D.C.-based entrepreneur who currently leads a national program designed to cultivate the next generation of African-American entrepreneurs and innovators for the United Negro College Fund. She is also the founder of The Black upStart, a national initiative to train African-American entrepreneurs. According to Williams, “The penalizing effects of racism robs black employees of fair and equal earned income simply because they are black. Therefore, entrepreneurship is not only necessary for black employees seeking to fully capitalize from their labor but also for black returning citizens who attempt legitimate employment despite policies that restrict their economic mobility and subsequent earning potential.”

Research shows that the gap in average wealth between African-American and white adults decreases from a multiplier of 13 to 3 when you compare the wealth of business owners by race.
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/313103

Nearly every single black athlete that Nike sponsors is a big time entrepreneur.

You talk like a republican who doesn't know a damn thing about black people.

You post an article on black entrepreneur then say I don't know what I'm talking about when I speak of black entrepreneurship (ownership). And I listen to a lot of (black) people who talk about the black community needs to be like the Chinese who have ownership and shop within their community. Is that the right answer? I don't know. But I read about it and I listen.

You may not like me because I'm a Republican but I read plenty about the black community and economic issues. And because some of my ideas may differ from yours does not make me an enemy to you or black people.

 

[cawacko]

I've been correcting you since this issue first surfaced. It doesn't seem to have done any good.

I'm good with whatever you think for you .. just don't attempt to speak for me because you're not learning.

Yes Nike made Jordan a billionaire as well as making a lot of white people wealthy. You have a problem with that? I don't.

Yes I disagree that real change comes from owning a black gym shoe company as long as we are moving to own other areas of economic empowerment.

2018 Is Shaping Up as a Pivotal Year for African-American Entrepreneurship

According to the U.S. Black Chamber of Commerce, “African-American businesses have grown at an exponential rate in the 21st century.” Four months in and 2018 is already shaping up to be a banner year for African-American entrepreneurship. Currently there are nearly 2.6 million African-American-owned businesses in the U.S., and now there are countless platforms, programs, initiatives and conferences in place to support such exponential growth.

Kezia Williams is a D.C.-based entrepreneur who currently leads a national program designed to cultivate the next generation of African-American entrepreneurs and innovators for the United Negro College Fund. She is also the founder of The Black upStart, a national initiative to train African-American entrepreneurs. According to Williams, “The penalizing effects of racism robs black employees of fair and equal earned income simply because they are black. Therefore, entrepreneurship is not only necessary for black employees seeking to fully capitalize from their labor but also for black returning citizens who attempt legitimate employment despite policies that restrict their economic mobility and subsequent earning potential.”

Research shows that the gap in average wealth between African-American and white adults decreases from a multiplier of 13 to 3 when you compare the wealth of business owners by race.
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/313103

Nearly every single black athlete that Nike sponsors is a big time entrepreneur.

You talk like a republican who doesn't know a damn thing about black people.

Look at LeBron James. His whole M.O. is creating black ownership. It's far more than just having Nike pay him a bunch of money. LeBron wants to own a team one day. He's started a production company. He's about (black) ownership. That's empowerment.

 

[blackascoal]

You post an article on black entrepreneur then say I don't know what I'm talking about when I speak of black entrepreneurship (ownership). And I listen to a lot of (black) people who talk about the black community needs to be like the Chinese who have ownership and shop within their community. Is that the right answer? I don't know. But I read about it and I listen.

You may not like me because I'm a Republican but I read plenty about the black community and economic issues. And because some of my ideas may differ from yours does not make me an enemy to you or black people.

I've never said that I don't like you .. but you're a republican and wrong on just about everything and most certainly not supportive of black thought.

In all your conversations with black people it seems that no one ever told you about how movements work.

 

[blackascoal]

Look at LeBron James. His whole M.O. is creating black ownership. It's far more than just having Nike pay him a bunch of money. LeBron wants to own a team one day. He's started a production company. He's about (black) ownership. That's empowerment.

Now you're making my point.

He isn't creating gym shoe companies.

.. and I repeat .. Nearly every single black athlete that Nike sponsors is a big time entrepreneur.

 

[blackascoal]

I think too many people are thinking in terms of immediate results - as though it's a linear solution: Kap kneels in protest, and right away we should see vast improvement in terms of equal treatment under the law.

History doesn't work that way. Change can be slow, painstaking and often characterized by taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

Getting the conversation started is a huge step, and an absolutely huge accomplishment for 1 individual.

WELL SAID.

 

[cawacko]

Now you're making my point.

He isn't creating gym shoe companies.

.. and I repeat .. Nearly every single black athlete that Nike sponsors is a big time entrepreneur.

He's creating companies. Does it matter whether they are sneakers or a production company? Getting paid by Nike is great but real wealth, and ultimately change, comes from ownership.

 

[blackascoal]

He's creating companies. Does it matter whether they are sneakers or a production company? Getting paid by Nike is great but real wealth, and ultimately change, comes from ownership.

Again, you're making MY point.

Where do you think much of that 'real wealth' comes from that allows LeBron to create what he does?

Obviously Nike has a great relationship with the African-American community that it supports in a variety of ways that most corporations do not.

How is that a problem for you?

 

[cawacko]

Again, you're making MY point.

Where do you think much of that 'real wealth' comes from that allows LeBron to create what he does?

Obviously Nike has a great relationship with the African-American community that it supports in a variety of ways that most corporations do not.

How is that a problem for you?

I have no problems BAC. You are reading way too much into things. And I'm talking black ownership outside of just athletes. Rich athletes alone aren't going to change things.

 

[blackascoal]

In 2015, Lebron signed a lifetime endorsement deal with Nike, likely to pay him over $1 billion by the time he's 64. The unprecedented deal shows Lebron has become much more than just a basketball player. The boy from Akron has become an economic miracle.

 

[TOP]

I think too many people are thinking in terms of immediate results - as though it's a linear solution: Kap kneels in protest, and right away we should see vast improvement in terms of equal treatment under the law.

History doesn't work that way. Change can be slow, painstaking and often characterized by taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

Getting the conversation started is a huge step, and an absolutely huge accomplishment for 1 individual.

I respect your opinion and appreciate your very civil answer....but.....
People aren't talking about his cause.... They're just fussing with each other. They're shrieking about boycotts and how much money is being made and screaming we win you lose...endlessly.... ("BAM !!!We are at war .. and they are losing.")

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So the "conversation" isn't what you‘ and others are making it out to be....I see no change any time soon when it comes to "oppression or social injustice or police brutality"...If NIKE brings out Kaep shoes, they'll sell (if they do) because they're New NiKES. Not because of any cause..
Poor choice of words for that slogan...especially for young people... ‘

 

[blackascoal]

I have no problems BAC. You are reading way too much into things. And I'm talking black ownership outside of just athletes. Rich athletes alone aren't going to change things.

I never said empowerment solely comes from athletes.

How is it that you are so unaware of rising black entrepreneurship if that is really your point?

LeBron would be confused by your posts.

 

[TOP]

In 2015, Lebron signed a lifetime endorsement deal with Nike, likely to pay him over $1 billion by the time he's 64. The unprecedented deal shows Lebron has become much more than just a basketball player. The boy from Akron has become an economic miracle.

Kaep is NOT Lebron.....

 

[TTQ64]

I repeat .. hard to see how you aren't on the other side.

Black police officers are are far more critical to this issue than you seem to recognize .. not that you not recognizing it makes any difference.

Papa Johns stood against Kaepernick and black athletes .. point me to your post condemning them about it and mocking republicans.

Perhaps your problem is that you just don't understand how movements work .. and in case you don't know, African-Americans were already buying Nike's due to their long-standing commitment to black athletes and community programs.

Guess you didn't know that.

He's full of shit.

He's on the other side.

WTF is HIS side doing about it? Nothing, because he doesn't think it's an issue. Every Black person murdered by kops or who have experienced police brutality deserves it.

Another racist fraud.

 

[cawacko]

I never said empowerment solely comes from athletes.

How is it that you are so unaware of rising black entrepreneurship if that is really your point?

LeBron would be confused by your posts.

LeBron would be confused by the argument that black ownership is a good thing and that's where change will come from? I find that difficult to believe

 

[blackascoal]

He's full of shit.

He's on the other side.

WTF is HIS side doing about it? Nothing, because he doesn't think it's an issue. Every Black person murdered by kops or who have experienced police brutality deserves it.

Another racist fraud.

I absolutely agree .. as is true of almost all on the right. They don't even think this is an issue.

 

[TTQ64]

But what are those black officers even doing? They wrote a letter to a company for their successful marketing campaign. Whoopty freakin' shit. Hard to see how you're not a typical, moron consumer passively eating up corporate "activism" that only succeeds in monetizing injustices while changing nothing.

Let me correct you: their long-standing commitment to sound marketing strategy. That's all that is. Get this concept through your head. These are not people that give a shit about you or anybody.

The fact that trying to point out how corporations are manipulating very real issues in our world into profit generating schemes makes you think I'm a Republican shows you are nothing more than a partisan hack that cares more about advancing "blue team" than doing much of shit in the way of making real change. Buy more shoes, dickhead, maybe when Nike's brand net worth finally hits $500 billion all the injustices of the world will magically disappear.

WTF are you racist supporters doing about this?

You racist fucks haven't done shit for decades of police brutality against Blacks.

Oh, and we don't really give a fuck what you think

 

[blackascoal]

LeBron would be confused by the argument that black ownership is a good thing and that's where change will come from? I find that difficult to believe

He would be confused that you have so little knowledge of the facts for someone who claims that black ownership is your point.

Without question, LeBron is not on your side on this issue .. obviously.

 

[cawacko]

He would be confused that you have so little knowledge of the facts for someone who claims that black ownership is your point.

Without question, LeBron is not on your side on this issue .. obviously.

So LeBron would say it's better to get paid by big corporations rather than have ownership yourself? Again I find that difficult to believe

 

[blackascoal]

So LeBron would say it's better to get paid by big corporations rather than have ownership yourself? Again I find that difficult to believe

You just don't listen.

He would be confused that you have so little knowledge of the facts for someone who claims that black ownership is your point.

I posted an article for you .. and you still don't get it.