Nike, Nike, Nike!

Threedee said:
plenty of people have made it clear to me that they do not plan to ever end their boycott.
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Please. They'll be buying Nike shoes again within months, if it even lasts that long. These things rarely last any significant length of time. Remember the starbucks boycott that was supposed to happen?
 
Quick - does anyone remember when the Dixie Chicks were called un-American & traitors & boycotted by the same people who years later voted for a guy who said basically the same thing about Iraq as the Dixie Chicks?
 
Thing1 said:
Because they care about equal rights?

Well, I've heard some say that, anyway...
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We don’t?

Police brutality is a problem that occurs within municipalities—cops, are exclusively municipal workers, when they aren’t state cops. I don’t have the stats but I venture it’s less of a problem with state cops since they get better training.

At any rate, what’s a national level Republican going to run on with respect to police brutality—when it’s largely a municipal issue? They going to promise to lower people’s water bills and garbage collection fees too lol?

It takes a bit of chutzpah to point the finger at conservatives for ‘not addressing’ a problem that is largely out of their control. And you know me, I don’t mind pointing that kind of thing out.
 
Darth Omar said:
Democrats run Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Cleveland just to name a few places where a good bit of police brutality occurs.

Republicans have little or no municipal power in such places so why should they campaign on it?
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None, until rednecks start getting murdered by the corporate state police.
 
Darth Omar said:
We don’t?

Police brutality is a problem that occurs within municipalities—cops, are exclusively municipal workers, when they aren’t state cops. I don’t have the stats but I venture it’s less of a problem with state cops since they get better training.

At any rate, what’s a national level Republican going to run on with respect to police brutality—when it’s largely a municipal issue? They going to promise to lower people’s water bills and garbage collection fees too lol?

It takes a bit of chutzpah to point the finger at conservatives for ‘not addressing’ a problem that is largely out of their control. And you know me, I don’t mind pointing that kind of thing out.
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Let's start with this: where did I "point the finger at conservatives"?

You sound very defensive about this. Unequal treatment under the law is a problem for both parties, because it's a problem in America. And it isn't just "police brutality." Our entire justice system still has issues w/ race and unequal treatment.

Has Kap even talked about Republicans or Democrats? Maybe you can find a quote, but if Trump has been called out, it's because he's President. And he has been terrible for race relations - his language & rhetoric is very divisive and loaded w/ all kinds of the usual dog whistles.

But you're the one making this discussion a party thing. If Republicans don't care about unequal treatment under the law because it doesn't win them many votes, I guess that's fine, but it's not very admirable.
 
Darth Omar said:
Democrats run Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Cleveland just to name a few places where a good bit of police brutality occurs.

Republicans have little or no municipal power in such places so why should they campaign on it?
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STFU with your lies.

This IS the republican platform, it's instituted all across this nation. It's why they are stacking the deck so when law suits start coming the courts will rule in their favor.

They at stacked in every legislation across the country. Their police force is in ever municipal, city, state, and cost. You racist fucks control everything.

The dems really don't run shit. This entire country, every nook and cranny is run under republican rule and laws.

Only the lame buy your stupid as argument.
 
Darth Omar said:
We don’t?

Police brutality is a problem that occurs within municipalities—cops, are exclusively municipal workers, when they aren’t state cops. I don’t have the stats but I venture it’s less of a problem with state cops since they get better training.

At any rate, what’s a national level Republican going to run on with respect to police brutality—when it’s largely a municipal issue? They going to promise to lower people’s water bills and garbage collection fees too lol?

It takes a bit of chutzpah to point the finger at conservatives for ‘not addressing’ a problem that is largely out of their control. And you know me, I don’t mind pointing that kind of thing out.
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The LE in every corner of this country is supported and ran by racist white men.

Always has been, always will be.

It's why you fucks cover for each other.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
None, until rednecks start getting murdered by the corporate state police.
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What about cops who get murdered by thugs?

Not long ago a young WV state cop got shot in the back of the head not far from me. He was basically assassinated. No, he was assassinated. These aren’t good days to be a cop—they couldn’t pay me enough to do it.
 
blackascoal said:
What the hell is wrong with you?

You expect what exactly from people who hate racism?
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What is wrong with me? Part of Kaep's protesting is based on economic injustice. My position is ownership is a big way to get more economic equality. I pointed to friends who say black folks should only buy from black owned businesses (not saying I agree with that but just stating it's an argument that has been made) and pointed out an opportunity exists in the shoe space.

And in saying that I somehow don't understand black people or the black community or you start yelling about democrats and republicans. What do they have to do with what I wrote?
 
Thing1 said:
Let's start with this: where did I "point the finger at conservatives"?

You sound very defensive about this. Unequal treatment under the law is a problem for both parties, because it's a problem in America. And it isn't just "police brutality." Our entire justice system still has issues w/ race and unequal treatment.

Has Kap even talked about Republicans or Democrats? Maybe you can find a quote, but if Trump has been called out, it's because he's President. And he has been terrible for race relations - his language & rhetoric is very divisive and loaded w/ all kinds of the usual dog whistles.

But you're the one making this discussion a party thing. If Republicans don't care about unequal treatment under the law because it doesn't win them many votes, I guess that's fine, but it's not very admirable.
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If you want to win elections you run on issues that affect your constituents. There are a plethora of issues to choose from and most candidates are going to stress one or two issues they think their voters would respond to. It’s common sense thing and nothing at all to do with whether you think it’s ‘admirable’.

Maybe since it’s largely a problem in democrat run cities Kap didn’t want to press too hard on the political aspect lol.
 
cawacko said:
What is wrong with me? Part of Kaep's protesting is based on economic injustice. My position is ownership is a big way to get more economic equality. I pointed to friends who say black folks should only buy from black owned businesses (not saying I agree with that but just stating it's an argument that has been made) and pointed out an opportunity exists in the shoe space.

And in saying that I somehow don't understand black people or the black community or you start yelling about democrats and republicans. What do they have to do with what I wrote?
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No it's not. Liar.

You want to change the narrative from kops unjustly murdering Black citizens.

YOU don't get to change the narrative to divert from white male law enforcement racism.

The Blacks that old you that are just as ignorant as you.
 
TrippyHippy said:
What is explicitly being done about the issue of racial injustice in our law enforcement and criminal justice system as the result of this Nike advertisement? I am not a Republican, I do not hate Colin Kaepernick for refusing to stand for the national anthem, I am not on the "other" side of this issue. I am merely questioning the fact that you are identifying with the victory of corporate megalomaniacs who are pulling record profits because they can manipulate you into buying their product by putting your deeply held views on the television pretending they give half a shit, while doing literally nothing about the issue at all. Nobody but Nike is winning. You are being played.
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Nope, no playing. Here's how I look at it. Despite not having an NFL income for some while now, Kap has managed to donate $1M to various social welfare charities.

https://www.si.com/sportsperson/2017/12/06/colin-kaepernick-charity-giving-donations

The Nike contract will enable him to do more of this kind of work, gives him a wide platform and a louder voice.
 
Thing1 said:
Let's start with this: where did I "point the finger at conservatives"?

You sound very defensive about this. Unequal treatment under the law is a problem for both parties, because it's a problem in America. And it isn't just "police brutality." Our entire justice system still has issues w/ race and unequal treatment.

Has Kap even talked about Republicans or Democrats? Maybe you can find a quote, but if Trump has been called out, it's because he's President. And he has been terrible for race relations - his language & rhetoric is very divisive and loaded w/ all kinds of the usual dog whistles.

But you're the one making this discussion a party thing. If Republicans don't care about unequal treatment under the law because it doesn't win them many votes, I guess that's fine, but it's not very admirable.
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Look at this thread. BAC proclaimed this Nike ad the end of the Republican Party.

There's probably a reason Kaep didn't vote in the election and he said Hillary would have been in jail if she were a normal person and it's because he knows this is bigger than just vote democrats into office and he's right.
 
blackascoal said:
In 2015, Lebron signed a lifetime endorsement deal with Nike, likely to pay him over $1 billion by the time he's 64. The unprecedented deal shows Lebron has become much more than just a basketball player. The boy from Akron has become an economic miracle.
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He used some of that to help fund a school, didn't he?
 
Thing1 said:
I'd disagree with that overall assessment. Without doubt, there is a lot of fussing and screaming and nonsensical talk. But on the cable panels, on capitol hill and just in general conversation, there is definitely more discussion and a heightened awareness of things like police brutality, wrongful arrest, profiling & other aspects of unequal treatment, as well as some of the racism that is unfortunately still inherent in our justice system.

Ultimately, when we can reach a day where there is a broad consensus that things have significantly improved, I think it's likely that Kap will get strong credit - not for being solely responsible or anything, but just like civil rights and other fights, for being a key catalyst at a pivotal time.
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I agree with this. Some are very reluctant to even *see* change coming, let alone accept it. We call them Trump voters, and they are angry, ill-informed, quite often racist, and want to roll the clock back to some fictional time when they were on top and everyone below knew their place.

I'm sure that Kap will get credit at some point. After all, who in 1955 guessed that an unknown young woman named Rosa Parks would spark a civil rights movement by refusing to trudge to the back of the bus when ordered?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I agree with this. Some are very reluctant to even *see* change coming, let alone accept it. We call them Trump voters, and they are angry, ill-informed, quite often racist, and want to roll the clock back to some fictional time when they were on top and everyone below knew their place.

I'm sure that Kap will get credit at some point. After all, who in 1955 guessed that an unknown young woman named Rosa Parks would spark a civil rights movement by refusing to trudge to the back of the bus when ordered?
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As a vile Trump supporter lol, I actually sympathize with Kap if he’s speaking about the *general* dysfunction of our justice system. I can get on board with that—especially, after what’s gone on the past two years or so. Maybe if he would lose the Piggy Socks and Castro shirt he could win me over.

That said, I don’t accept the narrative that there’s an epidemic of cops hunting down unarmed black men.
 
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