Russiagate is bullshit, has always been bullshit, and will continue to be bullshit.

Adolf_Twitler said:
Trump divided the country long before he was elected president.

Not sure how the Democrats would have reacted to Ted Cruze's bat-shit-cray ideas of shutting down the Fed and going back to the gold standard, or shutting down the IRS, or any of that bat-shit-crazy agenda.

But, as for the other Republicans in the 2016 race, had any of them won, we would never be such a divided country as we are today, nor would our country be in such a Democracy crisis caused by a President who is abusing his Executive powers.

Donald Trump caused this mess, so don't blame the Democrats!
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Remember the term 'reverse racism'? Isn't it interesting how simple it is for those on the Right to simply adopt the 'I know you are, but what am I?' response to anything that brings them discomfort?
 
Althea said:
LMAO

Nobody cares about the number one Russian operative in trump's campaign?

How quaint
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Here I thought Manafort was mixed up with the Ukrainians lol.

The same Ukrainians that threw Manafort under the bus and helped the DNC with the Russian narrative before the election.

That’s referred to as ‘collusion’ in some circles.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Here I thought Manafort was mixed up with the Ukrainians lol.

The same Ukrainians that threw Manafort under the bus and helped the DNC with the Russian narrative before the election.

That’s referred to as ‘collusion’ in some circles.
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Stop getting all of your info from Annoise. Manafort is a Russian operative who helped install Putin's puppet as the leader of Ukraine.

And the U.S.
 
I heard somewhere that they've ruled out Konstantin Kilimnik was acting on behalf of the Russians (FSB).
He "had ties" but the Manafort interactions were Ukraine based
 
Althea said:
Stop getting all of your info from Annoise. Manafort is a Russian operative who helped install Putin's puppet as the leader of Ukraine.

And the U.S.
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Noise writes for Politico? Who knew?
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Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Nope.

Democrats essentially refused to concede the election and the country was further divided over it. The country was going to be divided no matter who won, but The Resistance threw gasoline on the fire. The Mullet investigation is an attempt to erase the 2016 election results.

And as Shifty Schiff might say ‘the facts are public knowledge’.
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Dude, the Democrats don't have anything to be ashamed of in the 2016 election! We won something- and we lost something!

We won the popular vote! That tells me that there are more of us than you people! I voted with the majority! That makes me feel good! I think like most others in the nation! And my side didn't have to break the law to win the popular vote! We didn't hop in bed with the Russians in order to win at any cost.

But what we lost was horrible- We lost our Constitutional and Democratic right for a fair election!

And it was not the Democrats that had anything to do with appointing the Special Council or the Justice Department's investigation.

The Secretary Director of the FBI, Rosenstein, a well known Republican, appointed Robert Mueller, another well known Republican, to lead the Special Council and an investigation into Russia's interference in our election. And Donald Trump has since appointed another well known Republican to be the FBI Director who is now overseeing the FBI's role in the investigation. And we have had 2 Republican, Donald Trump appointed Republicans, as Attorney General to oversee the Justice and the Special Council and it's investigation.

So I am still trying to understand how you and others keep blaming the Special Council Investigation on Democrats.

The first 2 years of Donald Trump's presidency, both legislation branches were being lead by Republicans, so any investigations going on in the Senate or the House for the last two years had to be requested by a Republican leader of those legislation branches, so you can't blame any Democrats for any investigation opened by the legislators! Every investigation started up until January was started by Republicans!

Yet you blame the Democrats for these investigations! Something about sour grapes, or sore losers, didn't you say?

The Democrats couldn't stop the investigations, if we tried, as we didn't start them. Donald Trump and his appointed Attorney Generals are the only one's in the Country that could stop the Special Council. The Democrats have totally had to watch the Republican led investigations from the sidelines up until The House just recently announced some future investigations just since gaining control of the House as of January 2019.

So you are wrong! Totally wrong!

Here is the clincher- if it weren't for the reckless actions of Donald Trump and the people who surrounded him in his campaign there would be no reason for any investigations.

The Democrats had nothing to do with any of Donald Trump or his cronies crimes- who are all Republicans as well.

It seems the Republicans are to blame for the crimes and the investigations of those crimes!

So please, stop blaming the Democrats for the things that you are upset about!

You should totally be upset with the Republicans!
 
Micawber said:
Well I was giving him the guts of it. But since you are one of those fact guy it's "Hey Russia, if you work on the Trump campaign
doing psyops on rubes for Trump, we will deliver you Ukraine." Most frauds are pretty simple. It's just proving it that's hard.
Takes time. They are taking the time. I'm hopeful this subversion and fraud are proven.
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They have nothing Micawber. What is taking so long is they have not yet figure out how to tell everyone that.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Here I thought Manafort was mixed up with the Ukrainians lol.

The same Ukrainians that threw Manafort under the bus and helped the DNC with the Russian narrative before the election.

That’s referred to as ‘collusion’ in some circles.
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There are similarities between Clinton/Ukraine and Trump/Russia. There are big differences as well and as I have said, just like Nixon, it’s the coverup that’s going to get and have gotten the Trump campaign.
 
Micawber said:
Well I was giving him the guts of it. But since you are one of those fact guy it's "Hey Russia, if you work on the Trump campaign
doing psyops on rubes for Trump, we will deliver you Ukraine." Most frauds are pretty simple. It's just proving it that's hard.
Takes time. They are taking the time. I'm hopeful this subversion and fraud are proven.
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They had to wait until the Manafort thing was done. I expect Mullet's statement/report shortly now.
Most all of Mullet's team has moved on to other things. Mullet hasn't seen any real action for months having turned it over to his pit bull Weissmann.
 
“I like Speaker Pelosi but this is NOT the right approach,” tweeted Michael Avenatti of Stormy Daniels fame. “If Trump has committed impeachable offenses, he must be charged and he must face a trial in the Senate. Would the Repubs take this approach? Hell no! And this is why we get outplayed.”

Why is this guys opinion important. Why do the stupid liberal media give this guy any press.
 
Tkaffen said:
“I like Speaker Pelosi but this is NOT the right approach,” tweeted Michael Avenatti of Stormy Daniels fame. “If Trump has committed impeachable offenses, he must be charged and he must face a trial in the Senate. Would the Repubs take this approach? Hell no! And this is why we get outplayed.”

Why is this guys opinion important. Why do the stupid liberal media give this guy any press.
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Democrats think this guy is one of the smart ones.......
 
Tkaffen said:
“I like Speaker Pelosi but this is NOT the right approach,” tweeted Michael Avenatti of Stormy Daniels fame. “If Trump has committed impeachable offenses, he must be charged and he must face a trial in the Senate. Would the Repubs take this approach? Hell no! And this is why we get outplayed.”

Why is this guys opinion important. Why do the stupid liberal media give this guy any press.
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Trump, unindicted co-conspirator
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Noise writes for Politico? Who knew?
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Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
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ALTHEA is brain dead. He' sees Russians in his cornflakes.

why would Trump fire manafort after only 1 month if Manafort was the Trump/Putin "connection"
when this pans out -he's be yelling Putin owns Trump because of money laundering.

The dude is completely unhinged with TDS
 
noise said:
n an interview with the Washington Post yesterday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that she opposed the impeachment of President Trump. This comes shortly before Mueller’s investigation into Trump-Russia collusion is expected to wrap up.

“I’m not for impeachment,” Pelosi told the Post.

The response to Pelosi’s remarks has been swift and strong.

“Wrong!” exclaimed MSNBC’s Russiagate con man Malcolm Nance via Twitter. “What the hell is wrong with the @SpeakerPelosi Congress that they absolve themselves of their duty! Nothing is criminal anymore?! Trump can do and say like a dictator as he pleases? All of his crimes are OK even if you see them? This requires a public outcry. #Disgraceful”

“I like Speaker Pelosi but this is NOT the right approach,” tweeted Michael Avenatti of Stormy Daniels fame. “If Trump has committed impeachable offenses, he must be charged and he must face a trial in the Senate. Would the Repubs take this approach? Hell no! And this is why we get outplayed.”

“Sorry, Madam Speaker,” tweeted Esquire’s Charles P Pierce. “If you really believe the president* is an unprecedented threat to the Constitution, your oath demands that you begin the process to remove him. It’s your job.”
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Nope. Impeachment has political ramifications. Pelosi knows the red Senate will not vote for it. So you are wrong. It would be a waste of time until all Trumps crimes come out in public. But McConnell would still not put it on the floor.
 
Nordberg said:
Nope. Impeachment has political ramifications. Pelosi knows the red Senate will not vote for it. So you are wrong. It would be a waste of time until all Trumps crimes come out in public. But McConnell would still not put it on the floor.
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noise said:
the House’s most virulent Russiagater, however, sang a different tune.

“If the evidence isn’t sufficient to win bipartisan support for this, putting the country through a failed impeachment isn’t a good idea,” said Congressman Adam Schiff told CNN yesterday.

As you might expect, those voices in alternative media who’ve been voicing skepticism of the Russiagate narrative since the beginning have been having a ball with this one.

“BREAKING: The Democrats’ Congressional leadership is realizing that their two-year Russia conspiracy theory is not going to pan out,” tweeted journalist Aaron Maté, who has been in my opinion the single most lucid Russiagate critic for a long time now.

“If Trump is literally controlled by Putin to the point where Trump is forced to act in the best interests of Russia *at the expense of the US* — which has been the prevailing claim not of Dem fringes but its mainstream — how can it be morally justified not to impeach him???” tweeted journalist Glenn Greenwald in response to Pelosi’s comments.

How indeed? Pelosi’s comments go completely against the narrative that mainstream Democrats have been selling America for over two years now, and this close to the Mueller report amount to a rejection of that narrative.
Her statement is a tacit admission that she knows Russiagate is bullshit, has always been bullshit, and will continue to be bullshit.

“Is it possible that Putin has something on Pelosi?” Greenwald joked. “Or perhaps Democratic politicians and their media allies have been knowingly feeding the party base and cable viewers unadulterated, deranged, unhinged bullshit that they now can’t carry through on with the power in their hands because it was all self-serving, manipulative dreck? Anyone who has ever believed Trump is controlled and blackmailed by Putin to the point that Putin makes Trump treasonously sacrifice America’s interests for Russia’s — and there are a lot of you — should be marching in fury in the streets over Pelosi’s refusal to impeach Trump.”

But, of course, they will not. There will be no protest against Pelosi’s opposition to impeachment because those who would lead it know there will never be any evidence that could possibly lead to a bipartisan willingness in the Senate to remove him from office.

Anyone who’s paid close and intellectually honest attention to the Russiagate circus has known since the beginning that Trump was never going to be impeached for a treasonous conspiracy with the Russian government, despite the endless fantasies inflicted upon the blinkered Maddow muppets day after day after day for over two years now
. Back in 2017 I said that “Mueller will continue finding evidence of corruption throughout his investigation, since corruption is to DC insiders as water is to fish, but he will not find evidence of collusion to win the 2016 election that will lead to Trump’s impeachment,” because it was obvious to anyone who knew anything. And that has proven to be the case with uninterrupted consistency.
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noise said:
n an interview with the Washington Post yesterday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that she opposed the impeachment of President Trump. This comes shortly before Mueller’s investigation into Trump-Russia collusion is expected to wrap up.

“I’m not for impeachment,” Pelosi told the Post.

The response to Pelosi’s remarks has been swift and strong.

“Wrong!” exclaimed MSNBC’s Russiagate con man Malcolm Nance via Twitter. “What the hell is wrong with the @SpeakerPelosi Congress that they absolve themselves of their duty! Nothing is criminal anymore?! Trump can do and say like a dictator as he pleases? All of his crimes are OK even if you see them? This requires a public outcry. #Disgraceful”

“I like Speaker Pelosi but this is NOT the right approach,” tweeted Michael Avenatti of Stormy Daniels fame. “If Trump has committed impeachable offenses, he must be charged and he must face a trial in the Senate. Would the Repubs take this approach? Hell no! And this is why we get outplayed.”

“Sorry, Madam Speaker,” tweeted Esquire’s Charles P Pierce. “If you really believe the president* is an unprecedented threat to the Constitution, your oath demands that you begin the process to remove him. It’s your job.”
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I am on record saying I am willing to keep an open mind.

Let me hear your plausible theory for why Trump's staff, Trump's campaign, and Trump himself have been relentlessly lying about the scope and nature of their contacts with Russian nationals and Russian operatives.
 
Cypress said:
I am on record saying I am willing to keep an open mind.

Let me hear your plausible theory for why Trump's staff, Trump's campaign, and Trump himself have been relentlessly lying about the scope and nature of their contacts with Russian nationals and Russian operatives.
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Every single one of them
 
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