There was a school shooting but you’d hardly know it

[Aimée]

OH NO! You two on scooters? Just kidding I'm sure you two have a blast.

Many kids today don't go out and play like we did. We'd eat a light supper and out the door we'd go.

LOL! Maine hasn't seen nothing yet!

Same here. Especially when it was nice out.

 

[Aimée]

Morning Aimee. Sadly kids are turning from suicide and turning to mass shooting because of bullying. The latest Colorado shooting is an example.

Good morning, Grumpy! Yes, that's exactly why they're turning to suicide and lashing out with weapons. It's heartbreaking.

 

[cawacko]

Morning Aimee. Sadly kids are turning from suicide and turning to mass shooting because of bullying. The latest Colorado shooting is an example.

I’m 46 years old. There was definite bullying going on when I was coming up but there weren’t these school shootings. Kids also fought but most fights didn’t end up in shootings.

Not a rhetorical question but is bullying worse today than prior generations? Or does it seem worse because it is happening on social media where all can see?

 

[Teflon Don]

I’m 46 years old. There was definite bullying going on when I was coming up but there weren’t these school shootings. Kids also fought but most fights didn’t end up in shootings.

Not a rhetorical question but is bullying worse today than prior generations? Or does it seem worse because it is happening on social media where all can see?

You are bullied now

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I’m 46 years old. There was definite bullying going on when I was coming up but there weren’t these school shootings. Kids also fought but most fights didn’t end up in shootings.

Not a rhetorical question but is bullying worse today than prior generations? Or does it seem worse because it is happening on social media where all can see?

I believe children are more pampered than when we were children. I was taught to stick up for myself and not allow anyone to bully me. I raised my kids both in their 40's the same way. Today children are sheltered at home by parents who act more like friends than parents. Plus the PC idea of no winners or losers doesn't prepare children for adversity. And you are right social media goes home with the kids so the bullying never ends.

 

[Wolverine]

Holy crap the problem is their parents are probably SJW liberals who probably bashed Christians and conservatives all day they were left wing loons and they need to be called exactly that, the media won't make anything big about it because they were criminally insane leftists.

 

[Phantasmal]

I believe children are more pampered than when we were children. I was taught to stick up for myself and not allow anyone to bully me. I raised my kids both in their 40's the same way. Today children are sheltered at home by parents who act more like friends than parents. Plus the PC idea of no winners or losers doesn't prepare children for adversity. And you are right social media goes home with the kids so the bullying never ends.

I think participation awards are good till the children are older, then competition winning and losing can be stressed later on when children understand the nuances better. Participation awards encourage younger children to try new things.

 

[Aimée]

I’m 46 years old. There was definite bullying going on when I was coming up but there weren’t these school shootings. Kids also fought but most fights didn’t end up in shootings.

Not a rhetorical question but is bullying worse today than prior generations? Or does it seem worse because it is happening on social media where all can see?

I am the same age as you. Social media has made it worse because there is never a break from it.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I think participation awards are good till the children are older, then competition winning and losing can be stressed later on when children understand the nuances better. Participation awards encourage younger children to try new things.

Phan
That is good for preshoolers and up to kindergarden but after that starting say 7 or 8 then they need to learn that inorder to win you must do your best and that there are winners and losers in life.

 

[Phantasmal]

Phan
That is good for preshoolers and up to kindergarden but after that starting say 7 or 8 then they need to learn that inorder to win you must do your best and that there are winners and losers in life.

Competitive sports is raising the age to 10 in a lot of sports. 8 is the age that children start to become less egocentric, it takes a couple of years of development to understand it isn’t all about me and understanding healthy competition.

Winners and losers in life is a harsh term because one person’s idea of success and winning may not be another’s. There are different measures of success.

Competing in sports is all about who comes out ahead in points, but no team is a loser if you gave your best.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Competitive sports is raising the age to 10 in a lot of sports. 8 is the age that children start to become less egocentric, it takes a couple of years of development to understand it isn’t all about me and understanding healthy competition.

Winners and losers in life is a harsh term because one person’s idea of success and winning may not be another’s. There are different measures of success.

Competing in sports is all about who comes out ahead in points, but no team is a loser if you gave your best.

Ok 10. I used 8 as an example.

Winners and losers in life is a harsh term because one person’s idea of success and winning may not be another’s. There are different measures of success.

When I said the above I was referring to competitive sports. But if you want to expand it ok. It is not a harsh term it is correct, and not really subjective. If a person reaches a goal in life that is a winner if not the they are a loser. These are realistic goals I am referring to. Not like being a billionaire before 30.

But back to the main topic. Children must learn to stick up for themselves and if they are bullied then take action to stop the bullying. Be it reporting it or facing the bully after school. Most bullies are basically cowards and will back down when confronted.

 

[Phantasmal]

Ok 10. I used 8 as an example.

Winners and losers in life is a harsh term because one person’s idea of success and winning may not be another’s. There are different measures of success.*/QUOTE]

When I said the above I was referring competitive sports. But if you want to expand it ok. It is not a harsh term it is correct, and not really subjective. If a person reaches a goal in life that is a winner if no the they are a loser. These are realistic goals I am referring to. Not like being a billionaire before 30.

But back to the main topic. Children must learn to stick up for themselves and if they are bullied then take action to stop the bullying. Be it reporting it or facing the bully after school. Most bullies are basically cowards and will back down when confronted.

I agree, most bullies are cowards. I think we’re in agreement here, did the poles shift

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Ok 10. I used 8 as an example.


I agree, most bullies are cowards. I think we’re in agreement here, did the poles shift

I am happy to debate when the party I'm debating is reasoned and rational. We are debating good parenting and child raising which most reasoned people will mostly agree.

 

[StoneByStone]

It's crazy in your view that people would prioritize preserving inalienable rights over a few people's lives? You don't deserve to live in the land of the free. Move to Venezuela, loser.

Yes, I'm crazy for valuing human lives over guns.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I'll tell you a personal bullying story. I was taught you never hit a girl. Well there was this girl who would beat me up every day on our way home from school. After about a week of this I had my fill so despite what I was taught I punched her in the stomach. Guess what? She left me alone from that day on.

Moral stand up for yourself.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Yes, I'm crazy for valuing human lives over guns.

That's fine don't own guns. But you have no right to prevent others from owning them.

 

[Mason Michaels]

I'll tell you a personal bullying story. I was taught you never hit a girl. Well there was this girl who would beat me up every day on our way home from school. After about a week of this I had my fill so despite what I was taught I punched her in the stomach. Guess what? She left me alone from that day on.

Moral stand up for yourself.

I jacked my first wife in the jaw.
Probably shouldn't have,but the butcher knife she tried to murder me,with was an inch from my gut.

 

[StoneByStone]

Why would you say that? Is the freedom of religion more important than the lives lost in terrorist attacks? Should you be jailed for for expressing your opinion, because some have used freedom of speech to incite violence? What about a few criminals not getting caught to keep your doors from getting kicked in by the cops? Or do you just support the rights that you want people to have?

No freedom of speech would mean more deaths because it would lead to a totalitarian state. No freedom of religion would mean more deaths because it would lead to a theocracy. Less guns would not cause a radical change like that. If anything it would lead to a safer society.
Part of having a free society is knowing which rights not to let people have.

 

[StoneByStone]

That's fine don't own guns. But you have no right to prevent others from owning them.

That's fine, don't kill people. But you have no right to prevent others from killing people.

 

[cawacko]

I'll tell you a personal bullying story. I was taught you never hit a girl. Well there was this girl who would beat me up every day on our way home. After about a week of this I had my fill so despite what I was taught I punched her in the stomach. Guess what she left me alone from that day on.

Moral stand up for yourself.

One good thing about fighting is even if you get your butt kicked (assuming your aren't seriously injured) you wake up the next day and life goes on. Today people are so much more likely to get a gun to deal with issues rather than fight. I don't see that as guns being more prevalent but something in the mindset of people has changed.