Reperations~ The other persepective- Rep Jim Clyburn

Blacks in the South have been systematically sidelined. There's a 'culture' in the South that promotes this. YOUR attitude is a perfect example of how it works.

You can't sideline a group that has already sidelined itself by the actions of its members.

Pointing that out isn't an attitude but speaking the truth.

Please explain how blacks choosing to produce bastard babies at that rate, committing crimes at such a disproportionate rate, and blaming others for the results of their bad choices is someone sidelining them.
 
Bill: "I have always been in favor, but didn't think money was the way to go, more along the lines Rep Clyburn described, & for those reasons."
Jack; Yeah. What happened to the 'Mule and 40 acres'?

Bill: "It is very controversial & as you can see, many are not interested in dealing w/ it, & for various reasons-real & imagined."
Jack: I'm not sure it's that 'controversial'. A group feels 'oppressed' and may have a legitimate grievance.

You're over there in NoCal, I'm down here in the South. I can tell you, Blacks here got fucked over. Lots of Project Niggers here. There seems to be a Mentality of Hopelessness. Going to Prison means '3 Meals and a Cot'. Not really what you would think most children would aspire to.

What would you propose??

I lived in the south, NOLA for 3 years......


There was no mule.....

Some did get some land & later had it taken back.....


Such is life-in the past...

We can't do anything about that, we can do something about it's legacy...
 
CFM: "You can't sideline a group that has already sidelined itself by the actions of its members."
Jack: Inheritance, handing down 'wealth' to your children is a key factor. Blacks have been less likely to have accumulated 'wealth' to 'hand down'.

CFM: "Please explain how blacks choosing to produce bastard babies at that rate"
Jack: The idea is too produce 'numerical' relevance.

CFM: "committing crimes at such a disproportionate rate"
Jack: The 'Inner City' is where most crime occurs. People who can LEAVE there and move to the Suburbs, do.

CFM: "blaming others for the results of their bad choices"
Jack: It's a subtle 'economic warfare'.

CFM. I know it's a waste of time talking to you. I have met people like you in the Past, not so much anymore, but I know your mentality and attitude on this.



You can't sideline a group that has already sidelined itself by the actions of its members.

Pointing that out isn't an attitude but speaking the truth.

Please explain how blacks choosing to produce bastard babies at that rate, committing crimes at such a disproportionate rate, and blaming others for the results of their bad choices is someone sidelining them.
 
Bill: "What would you propose??"
Jack: Opportunity. Like most places in the US, an equal opportunity to prosper. I like what YOU have Posted about Clyburn's Proposal.

Bill: "I lived in the south, NOLA for 3 years......"
Jack; I'm not sure you were able to appreciate the sheer hatred Blacks have for Whites in that short of time.

Bill: "There was no mule....."
Jack: Yeah, that's the Problem. No inherited 'wealth' to be handed down to the next generation.

Bill: "We can't do anything about that, we can do something about it's legacy..."
Jack: I agree.






What would you propose??

I lived in the south, NOLA for 3 years......


There was no mule.....

Some did get some land & later had it taken back.....


Such is life-in the past...

We can't do anything about that, we can do something about it's legacy...
 
Bill: "What would you propose??"
Jack: Opportunity. Like most places in the US, an equal opportunity to prosper. I like what YOU have Posted about Clyburn's Proposal.

Bill: "I lived in the south, NOLA for 3 years......"
Jack; I'm not sure you were able to appreciate the sheer hatred Blacks have for Whites in that short of time.

Bill: "There was no mule....."
Jack: Yeah, that's the Problem. No inherited 'wealth' to be handed down to the next generation.

Bill: "We can't do anything about that, we can do something about it's legacy..."
Jack: I agree.

No one/group etc has an exclusive on hate.. I was in the military before that & seen a lot..

Hate went both ways in NOLA..

Anyway, IMHO these ideas the Rep is expressing is what I believe would work "best" to help..........
 
Bill: "No one/group etc has an exclusive on hate.. I was in the military before that & seen a lot..'
Jack: Oh, I agree.

Bill: "Hate went both ways in NOLA.."
Jack; Whites have no reason to Hate Blacks. Blacks, .... have a lot of reasons to Hate Whites.

Bill: "Anyway, IMHO these ideas the Rep is expressing is what I believe would work "best" to help.........."
Jack; I agree. A more 'American' Plan than the 'Afro-centric' Plan of ... "Send me a Check".



No one/group etc has an exclusive on hate.. I was in the military before that & seen a lot..

Hate went both ways in NOLA..

Anyway, IMHO these ideas the Rep is expressing is what I believe would work "best" to help..........
 
Bill: "No one/group etc has an exclusive on hate.. I was in the military before that & seen a lot..'
Jack: Oh, I agree.

Bill: "Hate went both ways in NOLA.."
Jack; Whites have no reason to Hate Blacks. Blacks, .... have a lot of reasons to Hate Whites.

Bill: "Anyway, IMHO these ideas the Rep is expressing is what I believe would work "best" to help.........."
Jack; I agree. A more 'American' Plan than the 'Afro-centric' Plan of ... "Send me a Check".

Lots of ppl don't need reasons, especially to do unreasonable things like hate someone they don't know..

"Sending a check" is doomed to fail, as he said.... It is a non starter..

A type of Marshall plan, putting what's needed & where it's needed the most.... Seems like a win, win for everyone..
 
CFM: "You can't sideline a group that has already sidelined itself by the actions of its members."
Jack: Inheritance, handing down 'wealth' to your children is a key factor. Blacks have been less likely to have accumulated 'wealth' to 'hand down'.

CFM: "Please explain how blacks choosing to produce bastard babies at that rate"
Jack: The idea is too produce 'numerical' relevance.

CFM: "committing crimes at such a disproportionate rate"
Jack: The 'Inner City' is where most crime occurs. People who can LEAVE there and move to the Suburbs, do.

CFM: "blaming others for the results of their bad choices"
Jack: It's a subtle 'economic warfare'.

CFM. I know it's a waste of time talking to you. I have met people like you in the Past, not so much anymore, but I know your mentality and attitude on this.

Perhaps blacks are less likely to hand down wealth because they're less capable of accumulating it.

Bastard babies being born to blacks at a rate of over 70% is relevant. It's a major cause of their failure to keep up with white people.

Why would honorable people not move to a place where black crime rates are lower?

Nothing subtle about blacks blaming whites for their personal failures


My mentality and attitude is spot on. You're the one that fails to acknowledge the truth.
 
I went back and looked at the short Video. Clyburn says what Bill has quoted. There's a difference here between what you are saying and what Clyburn is saying.

Affirmative Action HANDS our African friends something. Similar to how their FREEDOM was HANDED to them. No effort on their part.
This proposal creates an OPPORTUNITY for them to. Maybe it's an all paid for college education? Maybe it's an all paid for Trade School?
The Motivated will rise, the Deadbeats will still complain about how Life is so unfair.
Perhaps
Maybe is in the ending red lining. Perhaps equal jail time for equal crimes. How about ending bail.
 
CFM: "My mentality and attitude is spot on. You're the one that fails to acknowledge the truth."
Jack: Really?

CFM: "We must end Abortion NOW! WE need MORE nigger babies in the World".
Jack: Uh, yeah. Good Thinking. (rolling eyes ... and shaking head)



Perhaps blacks are less likely to hand down wealth because they're less capable of accumulating it.

Bastard babies being born to blacks at a rate of over 70% is relevant. It's a major cause of their failure to keep up with white people.

Why would honorable people not move to a place where black crime rates are lower?

Nothing subtle about blacks blaming whites for their personal failures


My mentality and attitude is spot on. You're the one that fails to acknowledge the truth.
 
CFM: "My mentality and attitude is spot on. You're the one that fails to acknowledge the truth."
Jack: Really?

CFM: "We must end Abortion NOW! WE need MORE nigger babies in the World".
Jack: Uh, yeah. Good Thinking. (rolling eyes ... and shaking head)

Yeah, really, BOY. The sooner you acknowledge it, the better off you'll be.
 
Yeah, really, BOY. The sooner you acknowledge it, the better off you'll be.

hahaha ... You complain about Blacks constantly.
Then, there is something you should LOVE ... aborting black babies.
Have you ever come to grips with that?
 
hahaha ... You complain about Blacks constantly.
Then, there is something you should LOVE ... aborting black babies.
Have you ever come to grips with that?

Why do you refuse to acknowledge the truth, BOY? You've been told the truth constantly and still refuse to listen. You must be one of those dumbass niggers that should perform a retroactive abortion on himself. Get going.
 
Why do you refuse to acknowledge the truth, BOY? You've been told the truth constantly and still refuse to listen. You must be one of those dumbass niggers that should perform a retroactive abortion on himself. Get going.

You support unlimited child production. Then ... when they ALL head North to the US, you can't quite put 2 and 2 together.
 
You support unlimited child production. Then ... when they ALL head North to the US, you can't quite put 2 and 2 together.

You're the one that attributed a quote to me that wasn't made. How sad you have to stoop so low because your superior embarrassed you.
 
Hello dukkha,

gawd almighty give it up already. we've had 50+ years of affirmative action -if that doesn't help nothing will.

It HAS helped.

The Democrats could do themselves no harm at the 2020 DNC than to trot out example after example of people who have been helped out of poverty by Great Society programs.
 
Hello Jack,

Whites have no reason to Hate Blacks.

But that doesn't stop some of them from doing it anyway.

Really, the problem is hatred itself.

Hatred makes no sense. Hatred makes no more sense than revenge.

There is nothing good in hatred.

Hatred has no benefit to the hater, nor the hated.

Hatred is indicative of a messed up mind.

Hatred cannot be eliminated with more hatred.

Only love can conquer hatred.

People need to learn how to forgive, even if only in their own minds.

Once people let things go, they can find serenity and happiness.

And that is the secret of life.

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time.

Hatred is a waste of life.

Every moment spent in hatred is subtracted from the amount of enjoyment possible during a lifetime.

Hatred is thus not logical.

Learn to love, learn to enjoy life.

Hating on others should be seen as a sign that something is wrong in one's own life. Something that needs addressing.

Hatred won't solve itself, but it can be resolved.

LET IT GO. Live a happier life.

Don't worry. Be happy.
 
I believe that is true.
Both TTQ and Taichi come across as people looking for a 'PayDay'.
'Reparations' is a nice Bumper Sticker slogan, but actual implementation is a tough go.
Bernie Sanders has talked about 'Wealth Inequality' and wants to attack the Problem with more Resources.
I haven't looked at the 'Video' yet, I'm kind of busy, but what you've presented so far seems like a more reasonable approach and a more doable approach.

I do not agree with everything TTQ and Taichi say, but they have never given me the impression that they are looking for a pay day or handouts.

I get the impression that many in the black community want our nation and our government to give an explicit acknowledgement and accounting of the toll and continuing outfall of implementing and operating an economy for 400 years that was based on the kidnapping and enslavement of millions of human beings. It was only within our lifetimes that some blacks were allowed to drink from the same water fountains as whites, or to even be out in public around white people without the constant threat of assault, lynching, and abuse hanging over their head.

We are kidding ourselves if we do not believe there is still continuing outfall from four centuries of slavery, or that this nation has fully accounted for its cost to both human beings, to our economy, and to our moral integrity. Institutional racism still exists and creates barriers for people; that is a fact a lot of people will not acknowlege.

I saw a list of "reparations" TTQ put up, and most of them seemed fairly sensible, were largely focused on social and economic justice outcomes, and were well within the scope of what a lot of progressives would advocate for.
 
Hello Jack,



But that doesn't stop some of them from doing it anyway.

Really, the problem is hatred itself.

Hatred makes no sense. Hatred makes no more sense than revenge.

There is nothing good in hatred.

Hatred has no benefit to the hater, nor the hated.

Hatred is indicative of a messed up mind.

Hatred cannot be eliminated with more hatred.

Only love can conquer hatred.

People need to learn how to forgive, even if only in their own minds.

Once people let things go, they can find serenity and happiness.

And that is the secret of life.

The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time.

Hatred is a waste of life.

Every moment spent in hatred is subtracted from the amount of enjoyment possible during a lifetime.

Hatred is thus not logical.

Learn to love, learn to enjoy life.

Hating on others should be seen as a sign that something is wrong in one's own life. Something that needs addressing.

Hatred won't solve itself, but it can be resolved.

LET IT GO. Live a happier life.

Don't worry. Be happy.

You're confused. You think pointing out that things like affirmative action and reparations are bullshit is hate.
 
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