Any excuse to cover for your cowardice, huh?
Heads up Teabillies - the gubmint's a comin for your small dick compensators
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Any excuse to cover for your cowardice, huh?
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Making excuses because you know you don't have an ounce of guts in order to try is pitiful.
gfm7175
Jesus is LORD!
Not at all. There is nothing illogical about the existence of exceptions to the general rule. Taking is not always stealing... killing is not always murder...
My personal opinion is quite similar to a currently in-force law called the Hyde Amendment.
I didn't get "shellacked" last November...
Completely untrue. If you kill a Nazi you go to jail. Nothing provokes imminent disorder unless some disorder occurs. If I urge you to go out and kill Jews that is not illegal because you were not incited to do so. And it cannot apply to some future time--imminent means immediately stirred by emotion.
Disorder is an action---an ideology is not. The Constitution protects us against punishment for our thoughts or ideology.
Nothing is inherently or imminently threatening unless it stirs someone to illegal action (or they are clearly about to act illegally).
Look at some of the court cases I posted which struck down as unconstitutional some of the very acts you say can be punished. The court has said we can advocate anything as long as you take no action toward that act or incite others to commit that act.
Again, the protestors at Charlottesville were chanting the very things you say can be punished and holding Nazi flags---why were none of them charged with actions you say are not protected?
In the Hess case it said "the speech must lead to “imminent disorder." If there is no immediate disorder no incitement occurred.
Sorry about the gender thing. I thought you said you were a female.
You're confusing cognitive dissonance with exceptions to the rule.
But you said "abortion was murder".
That is what you literally said.
Then you walked that back in literally the same fucking sentence.
If you can't see the cognitive dissonance, then you are brain damaged.
Which doesn't ban abortion, or consider it murder.
So, wanna try again?
Yeah you did. You lost the gerrymandered house and over 400+ state legislative seats. You couldn't even hold onto a House you gerrymandered to your advantage.
How come?
No you don't.
It's self-defense.
Nazism proves an imminent threat because its function is ethnic cleansing and genocide. That's what Nazism is.
Nazism is ethnic cleansing and genocide; those are imminent threats, are they not?
That is literally what incitement is, Flash.
What is a synonym for "urge"? INCITE.
Wow.
You know you're dealing with a Nazi sympathizer when they try to make semantic arguments in defense of it.
That's because that is what is literally is.
gfm7175
Jesus is LORD!
Wow, you're getting quite angry now... Why are you this angry? You need not be this angry this often...
Flash is correct, though... the world does not revolve around you... not everything is about you.
As opposed to the aggressive unhealthy fits of rage which you regularly put on display??
Inversion Fallacy. YOU were the one making bigoted arguments...
I have no idea what you are even on about here...
More of that "love trumps hate" "co-exist" "world peace" liberal "tolerance", eh??
The level of anger which you have put on display is very unhealthy. I hope that you one day get your anger issues under control...
Urging someone to kill someone else is incitement...it's also conspiracy to commit murder.
Both of which justify self-defense.
So thanks for helping me make a legal case for killing Nazis.
The ideology is the action.
Nazism is defined by ethnic cleansing and genocide.
You seem to want to wait to take action until they actually commit the ethnic cleansing and genocide instead of just inciting it by waving a Nazi flag or Seig Heiling, at which point it will be too late.
WRONG!
WRONG WRONG WRONG!
You still go to jail for incitement even if no one acts on the incitement you're stirring.
That's why you go to jail for threatening the President. It's why you go to jail for making threats.
Incitement is never protected speech. NEVER. And it doesn't need to actually incite anyone to do anything to be incitement.
You are not a lawyer. STOP.
None of the court cases you provided say that self-defense is not acceptable when it comes to killing Nazis.
I can claim self-defense because a Nazi's inherent position is threatening to me, as a Jewish person.
A Nazi waving a swastika about is an act of incitement of genocide because that's what the symbol represents.
So they can wave that symbol all they want, but they're not protected from the consequences of doing so.
Again, it's why no one has ever went to prison for killing or beating up a Nazi, and why no one ever will.
I didn't say they would be charged by the state; I never said that. So again, this is a Flash bad faith habit rearing its ugly head again, creating straw men because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
What I said was that they aren't protected from the consequences of what they do.
That's what I've been saying. That a Nazi, just by virtue of existing, provides an imminent threat, so I can legally act in self-defense and shoot that motherfucker in the head because he is inciting violence against me every time he waves that stupid flag or makes that stupid gesture.
Genocide is imminent disorder.
So if the state doesn't want to prosecute for incitement, fine...but the state cannot prosecute me for defending myself from the imminent threat posed by that Nazi.
You were so angered by what I wrote that you had to lie about what happened just to save face on an anonymous message board.