Which is your favorite excuse for Trump's racist tweets about the Squad?

Which is your favorite excuse for Trump's racist tweets about the Squad?

  • He never mentioned race.

    Votes: 5 35.7%

  • He would have said it about white people too.

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Arabic and Mestizo aren't races.

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • What about what some other person did?

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • It wasn't racism, it was xenophobia.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • They hate America,

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • dEmS aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs.

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • He wasn't talking about the Squad.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    14
StoneByStone said:
It's a common racist cliche used against non-white people.

It's like burning a cross on a black people's lawn. There is nothing inherently racist about the act. However, in American context, it's a racist cliche that has connotations we all understand.
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Nah. Not racist. As much as you want it to be, it isn't.
 
gfm7175 said:
I think they're trying to imply that people excuse Trump's behavior by ignoring it and then shifting focus over to the behavior of somebody else...

In the case of this thread, though, the best response is "he never mentioned race". No excuses are necessary since he never even made racist comments to begin with.

You ask "what racism"? They can't point to it...
You ask for a definition of racism? They can't provide it...
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How about you providing a definition, then? Enlighten us.
 
StoneByStone said:
The tweets about the Squad where he used the racist trope of telling non-white people who were born here to "go back."
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https://www.vox.com/2019/7/15/20694616/donald-trump-racist-tweets-omar-aoc-tlaib-pressley

Are you referring to the above-linked tweet by any chance?? If so, Trump did not ONCE mention anything about race in that tweet, let alone make any sort of racist comments within it... YOU are the one who is attempting to make his tweet about race. This is YOUR issue, not Trump's.
 
StoneByStone said:
The tweets about the Squad where he used the racist trope of telling non-white people who were born here to "go back."
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Life is Golden said:
How is that racist?
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It's not. Telling someone to fix their own socialist country with their socialist ideas instead of ruining our capitalism-based federated republic with their socialist ideas is not racist. StoneByStone has no idea what racism is, since he rejects logic.
 
gfm7175 said:
It's not. Telling someone to fix their own socialist country with their socialist ideas instead of ruining our capitalism-based federated republic with their socialist ideas is not racist. StoneByStone has no idea what racism is, since he rejects logic.
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But all four of them are American citizens and three of them were even born here.
The tweets only make sense when you're aware that "go back to your country" is a racist trope.
 
christiefan915 said:
How about you providing a definition, then? Enlighten us.
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Sure thing. I have already provided it countless times, but I will provide it here once again...

Racism is a compositional error fallacy involving people as the class and a genetic trait as the property.

A fallacy is an error of logic. A compositional error fallacy is the improper extension of a property of an item of a class across other items within that same class or across the class itself.

The "marbles in a bag" example works quite well for illustrating this. Let's say that you pick a marble out of the bag and it is black. Then you pick a second one out and it is also black... A third one is black... A fourth one is black. You then conclude that all the marbles in the bag are black. By doing so, you are improperly extending a property [color] of an item [a marble] of a class [marbles] across other items within the same class [the other marbles inside the bag]. Those other marbles might actually be white, blue, yellow, red, green, etc...

Racism and bigotry are simply specific forms of that same compositional error fallacy. For bigotry, it is the specific form in which people (instead of marbles) are the class. For racism, it is the bigotry mentioned above, but it also includes some sort of genetic trait (such as skin color) as the property.
 
christiefan915 said:
Argument by emoji dismissed? Good lord, toxic needs to slink away and hide then!
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Yes, I dismiss all "arguments by emoji" on sight, as dismissing an argument as 'absurd' through use of emojis is not valid argumentation. He committed the Argument of the Stone Fallacy, but when people commit that fallacy through use of emojis, I like to refer to it as an "Argument By Emoji".

What racist tweet has Trump made? Do you have a link to it?
 
StoneByStone said:
But all four of them are American citizens and three of them were even born here.
The tweets only make sense when you're aware that "go back to your country" is a racist trope.
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You are forming a derogatory model, applying that model to someone else, and assuming that the derogatory model is the ONLY model. You YOURSELF are being racist, here...
 
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